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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #36120 on: August 18, 2024, 11:09:05 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 18, 2024, 10:25:44 AM
I think you underestimate how much of a snake the man from Chicago really is.

He badly wants a fourth term.
This is obviously nuts.

Claim, claim, claim.  Nothing to support it or back it up.
Obama was as moderate as it gets in this century, but he's a snake.


FFS
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #36121 on: August 18, 2024, 11:10:35 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 18, 2024, 10:47:51 AM
Well after Trump talked about the tip taxes, we get the same proposal from Harris.

What are all those IRS agents she hired to go after tips going to do now?


[img width=500 height=280.994]https://i.imgur.com/eHvBn0w.png[/img]
OK, question.

If something is a good idea and you were on the wrong side of it, you're supposed to stay on the wrong side of it?
You don't make the self-correction?
Sticking with the bad idea is better than flip-flopping?


What sort of idiocy is that??
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #36122 on: August 18, 2024, 11:16:56 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on August 18, 2024, 11:10:35 AM
OK, question.

If something is a good idea and you were on the wrong side of it, you're supposed to stay on the wrong side of it?
You don't make the self-correction?
Sticking with the bad idea is better than flip-flopping?


What sort of idiocy is that??
so she is the queen of the flip flop
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #36123 on: August 18, 2024, 11:27:13 AM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on August 18, 2024, 10:28:33 AM
The Republicans skipped a platform in 2020 and just said whatever Trump says is what we support. This time around they did bother to put a platform together, which as far as I can tell is mostly nonsense Trump talks about in speeches.
You’re forgetting yourself again.  Nearly everyone agrees, had Covid not happened Trump would have won reelection and by an easy margin.  Even with that, he received the most votes in election history, with one important exception- Biden in the same election. 

That election had by far the highest % of not in person votes, which favored Biden enormously. 

Ballot harvesting-WHICH IS PERFECTLY LEGAL- was the difference.  Understand what ballot harvesting is: mailing ballots out to “likely” registered voters, and hiring people to go out and “collect” them.  Signature verification is not even required in many places.

Between that, and the MSM media lying about the laptop, and acting like Trump created Covid in his personal lab, and the numerous other Covid lies that have been thoroughly debunked - there you have it. 

And stop pretending that government control of prices isn’t communism by definition- and site ONE example of where it worked.
And calling deportation communist?  Making people whose first act of entering the USA is breaking the law, pay for it?  Get over it. 
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« Reply #36124 on: August 18, 2024, 11:31:28 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on August 18, 2024, 11:10:35 AM
OK, question.

If something is a good idea and you were on the wrong side of it, you're supposed to stay on the wrong side of it?
You don't make the self-correction?
Sticking with the bad idea is better than flip-flopping?


What sort of idiocy is that??
Generally- changing your position is a good thing as far as I am concerned.  

Now- if you realize the person doing it is running from the numerous positions they have proudly and vocally espoused for years, because they are clearly unpopular- then you have to question if they are being honest, or if they even have a clue what they stand for. 
Question for you:   Who cast the deciding vote on the legislation that taxes tips?   
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #36125 on: August 18, 2024, 11:57:32 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on August 18, 2024, 11:09:05 AM
This is obviously nuts.

Claim, claim, claim.  Nothing to support it or back it up.
Obama was as moderate as it gets in this century, but he's a snake.


FFS
You are out of touch with reality.

I watched the man like a hawk as he rose to power within the criminal Chicago Machine. Trust me. He is NOT a good man, and he is absolutely not a moderate.

Trump is also not a good man.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #36126 on: August 18, 2024, 12:35:30 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on August 18, 2024, 11:16:56 AM
so she is the queen of the flip flop
Cool, but if she also is now on the good side of the idea, isn't that a plus?  I've never understood criticizing someone for correcting their opinion.  What sense does that make?
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« Reply #36127 on: August 18, 2024, 12:54:41 PM »
I don't agree with the no tax on tips. It's earned income, and the IRS is dependent on earned income to gain revenue.

What is the cost of this policy? It's gotta be nuts but nobody really knows what the impact will be if this happens.

And I don't believe it's going to happen for that reason alone.

One Trump proposal I do appreciate is the no tax on SS. The people who paid into that system already paid taxes on that money in the first place. I am not cool with double taxation.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #36128 on: August 18, 2024, 01:55:05 PM »
Yeah, I’m not down with the no tax on tips either. Why do they get certain exemptions than say somebody who works at Lowe’s or similar ?  

Besides, when they pay in cash it’s never taxed anyways. 
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« Reply #36129 on: August 18, 2024, 02:10:54 PM »
Quote from: Gigem on August 18, 2024, 01:55:05 PM
Yeah, I’m not down with the no tax on tips either. Why do they get certain exemptions than say somebody who works at Lowe’s or similar ? 

Besides, when they pay in cash it’s never taxed anyways.
actually that is sometimes incorrect.  Depending on a persons job the IRS will require a declared tip amount.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #36130 on: August 18, 2024, 03:47:57 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 18, 2024, 12:54:41 PM
One Trump proposal I do appreciate is the no tax on SS. The people who paid into that system already paid taxes on that money in the first place. I am not cool with double taxation.
Triple taxation. I just learned the other day that the payroll taxes that we pay still count in our AGI. So you're paying income tax on the income that was already withheld to pay your FICA taxes. 
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« Reply #36131 on: August 18, 2024, 04:53:05 PM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on August 18, 2024, 03:47:57 PM
Triple taxation. I just learned the other day that the payroll taxes that we pay still count in our AGI. So you're paying income tax on the income that was already withheld to pay your FICA taxes.

I agree
but there is quite a bit of an allowance before taxes start
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #36132 on: August 18, 2024, 05:50:45 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 18, 2024, 11:57:32 AM
You are out of touch with reality.

I watched the man like a hawk as he rose to power within the criminal Chicago Machine. Trust me. He is NOT a good man, and he is absolutely not a moderate.

Trump is also not a good man.
Not sure where I specified anyone was a "good man," but okay.

And again, EVIDENCE.  "I watched the man like a hawk" isn't evidence, sorry.  
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« Reply #36133 on: August 18, 2024, 05:51:33 PM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on August 18, 2024, 03:47:57 PM
Triple taxation. I just learned the other day that the payroll taxes that we pay still count in our AGI. So you're paying income tax on the income that was already withheld to pay your FICA taxes.

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