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I don't think "BoD members" is a very good comparison. It's quite common for people to sit on boards of multiple companies. Being a member of a BoD isn't exactly a 9-5, 48 week/year job, as I understand it typically.

I think "high-level executive" is a more apt comparison, because when you start getting to C-suite executives at large companies, they're making a hell of a lot more than our elected officials.

The commissioner of my agency makes $187K. For someone to lead a private sector company of comparable size, head count, and financial handle, you'd have to move that period at least 1, possibly 2, decimal places to the right.

Well, they showed them, I guess, or something.

I know some folks are so worried about this "existential threat" they do silly things.  Some reality would be appreciated, and shocking if it happened.

At  least here we exchange ideas and information and links that are at times interesting and/or useful.

I mean, protestors get things done way more than wonky talking. Complaining about that fact is a fart in the wind.

I mean, protestors get things done way more than wonky talking. Complaining about that fact is a fart in the wind.

I think this is very very rare that it happens.  I can't think of any examples over the past decade where I'd say some protest resulted in anything positive.  The problem is they tend to be evanescent, a kind of one time chance to signal one's virtue, and then poof.

Now at times politicians will try and appear to respond to a thing, but it's likely it reflects direct input by their voters more than some protest.  And they will "appear" to do something which in my view usually is of little real value, and maybe even negative value.

Protesting about some climate thing can't result in anything positive anyway.  There is no practicable solution, so politicians generate appearances of doing something.

We had the "BLM" protests a few years back.  I think some PDs made some adjustments, and of course the rank and file lost a lot of morale, so there is that.  The adjustments made in my view were "for show", hey, we did something.  And the protests/riots etc. just disappeared.  There was no concerted real effort to protest anything.  Now was anything of value changed as a result.

Around here, we had protests against "Cop City" for a while, one protester was shot and killed.  The police say he had a gun.  Anyway, the protests have disappeared and the training facility is being built now.  Maybe one or two folks are outside holding signs, it's out of the "news".

Obviously, having a handful of people disrupt some baseball game for charity isn't going to change anything at all except get them in jail for a night.  Yay.

If a protest is sustained and large and reflects fairly common public opinion, it may result in real change.  Maybe.  But I'd argue it's because of public opinion, not the protests so much.

We had the "BLM" protests a few years back.  I think some PDs made some adjustments, and of course the rank and file lost a lot of morale, so there is that.  The adjustments made in my view were "for show", hey, we did something.  And the protests/riots etc. just disappeared.  There was no concerted real effort to protest anything.  Now was anything of value changed as a result.

Around here, we had protests against "Cop City" for a while, one protester was shot and killed.  The police say he had a gun.  Anyway, the protests have disappeared and the training facility is being built now.  Maybe one or two folks are outside holding signs, it's out of the "news".

Obviously, having a handful of people disrupt some baseball game for charity isn't going to change anything at all except get them in jail for a night.  Yay.

If a protest is sustained and large and reflects fairly common public opinion, it may result in real change.  Maybe.  But I'd argue it's because of public opinion, not the protests so much.

Some did, yes, and many of those who forced the changes are now in regret mode.