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Topic: In other news (apolitical thread)...

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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #980 on: April 18, 2025, 05:21:50 PM »
kids shared bedrooms in the 60s
and exchanging blows
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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #981 on: April 19, 2025, 08:46:44 AM »
How crazy is the Global 8000? This new jet can fly up to 8,000 nautical miles between refueling stops or fly up to a top speed of Mach 0.94.

To put that into perspective, the Boeing 747-400 has a Maximum Mach Operating speed (MMO) of Mach 0.92. The bigger 747-800 and the colossal Airbus A380 are also really quick at Mach 0.90. A common Airbus A320? That’ll go about Mach 0.82. How about aircraft in the business space? Well, the Cessna Citation X+ goes Mach 0.935, the Gulfstream G650 flies Mach 0.925, and the HondaJet goes 0.72 Mach.

To be clear here, I’m using Mach for speed because you can’t really just convert Mach into MPH. Mach speed changes with altitude. Theoretically, a plane flying Mach 1.00 exactly at sea level would be traveling 762 mph over the ground. Yet, at an altitude of 40,000 feet, Mach 1.00 equates to 660 mph. All you need to know here is that these planes are really fast.

https://www.theautopian.com/canadas-new-hot-rod-business-jet-is-the-fastest-passenger-plane-in-the-world/
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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #982 on: April 19, 2025, 09:08:13 AM »
Planes nearly always fly slower than max of course to conserve fuel.  Maybe a private jet wouldn't care.  But imagine a trip of say 6,000 miles, and one jet flies at 600 mph and another at 550 mph, the ten hour trip became just under 11 hours, maybe the extra hour is critical?  Maybe not.

Obviously a biz jet that could fly 1,200 mph makes a big difference.  Duh.

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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #983 on: April 19, 2025, 10:30:39 AM »
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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #984 on: April 19, 2025, 04:24:45 PM »
Palmetto bugs are a little low.  
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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #985 on: April 19, 2025, 06:15:33 PM »
But that's my point. You sucked at those sports too :57:

The difference is what you're measuring against.

When you talk about going to play pickup basketball, and thought you were "pretty good", did you think you were somewhere near being a Div-1 or Div-2 basketball player? No, of course not. If you'd been playing against players of that caliber, you'd have learned pretty quickly just how bad you were. You talk about being pesky on defense... Against "hot-shots". Would you have been able to contain, for example, 2024-25 LSU guard Cam Carter, who was "only" an inch taller than you? I doubt it. He shot 42.5% from the field last season (probably low considering about 50% of his shots appear to be 3-pointers). What do you think his shooting percentage would have been if you--at your prime--were guarding him?

You misunderstand my point.  I said I was used to showing noticeable progress pretty quickly in other sports, and that in golf, I didn't.  How good I objectively was or wasn't is completely beside the point.

The rest of it, you've made some assumptions about me which have some merit, but I was likely better than you're giving me credit for.  For a regular Joe, I was really, really good at basketball, before my health utterly crapped out on me.  When I was an early teen in BR I use to go play in rec leagues with two guys who had played for LSU a decade earlier.  They taught me a ton about moving the ball around and ways to help myself when you're physically inferior.  I have to say, they weren't really any better than a lot of the other non-former-collegiate players who were out there.  All those guys I remember being really good, although that also probably had a lot to do with how young I was compared to all of them.  They were grown men, I was barely a teen.  But I got a good look up close at some guys--albeit, yes, a decade earlier--who were good enough to play for LSU.

After a two-yr stint in Georgia I moved back to another part of Louisiana to finish out high school where I graduated with a guy was very good.  It was a small school so I knew him pretty well, and he got a full ride to McNeese.....not exactly Kentucky or UCLA, but it's a D1 school.  Since that's where I went I stayed in touch with him back then and got to play with some of the other players there too because he brought them to games outside of school (totally against their rules, I'm pretty sure....they used to talk about how pissed their coach would be if he knew they were playing games outside of their prescribed team activities).  My friend was 6'8" and about 230-235....significantly bigger than me.  His teammates were similar.  Make no mistake, those guys were more gifted than me, but they didn't murder me or stop me from scoring or score at will on me, either.  I could play with them, even if I wasn't one of the better players.  Put me out against guys at "LSU" (lol at LSU for an example.....how much suckier could you get?) and the difference likely gets wider.  Put me out against NBA guys, at that point I'd be a real lost cause.  I got close enough to that to have no illusions that that was me.  My friend went undrafted but made a long career for himself in European leagues, playing mostly in Portugal, I think.  After college I lost touch with him and now only ever see him around on Facebook.  

I've recounted here before, I'm pretty sure, about the man I lived next door to, an extraordinarily gifted and athletic basketball player, and how one day when I was using his goal and he was just standing around watching me, he lept like a cat and swatted the ball clear into another yard, doing it several times until I complained it wasn't fair because I was 9 and he was a giant, and he told me "Fair?  What are you gonna do when you grow up and people are still taller than you?  Fair's got nothing to do with it.  Better learn to shoot over me or get around me."  That was an impactful day, although as I said previously, it wasn't until halfway through college that my offensive ability caught up to my defensive capability.  Ball-handling in traffic was by far the part of the game that I had to work the hardest at.  He, btw, routinely beat the hell out of those former LSU players at the rec-league games.  He was something.  I loved watching all his friends come over to his house and play....they were fun to watch even though they didn't usually let me play.

At any rate, in addition to the fact that out of high school I probably couldn't have gotten any scholarships, I had zero interest in sports even if it had been an option.  I was ate up with playing music by then.  But I've been on the court with college players, and it's not correct to say I have no idea what it's like or that I was in a different universe from them.  

Baseball.....is almost certainly much more like you described.  I was good for high school and Regular Joe games/leagues, but I've never played with any college-level players*.  I've never even seen a college ace's pitch up close the way I got to play with some college-level round-ballers.  Even when I was younger I'd have been K'd if for no other reason than I've never been around greatness, regardless of if I even had any talent or not.  I have a cousin in Houston whose kid is in the same class as the kid of MLB ace Nathan Eovaldi, and she knows him on account of that.  I'd never actually ask for this, but I won't lie, I wish I could tell her to see if she could have them over some off-season, invite me, and just have him whiz one by me.......I know it's sick, but I would love to see one of his pitches go hopeless, helplessly by me, just to see if the despair is tangible.  



* I did live down the street from the 3rd baseman of LSU's 1993 CWS team, and I gave him an LSU hat to get signed by as many of his teammates as he could when they won.  I never got that hat back.  Damn him.....stealin' a kid's hat like that.  

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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #986 on: April 19, 2025, 08:15:23 PM »

After a two-yr stint in Georgia I moved back to another part of Louisiana to finish out high school where I graduated with a guy was very good. 
Juvie?  
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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #987 on: April 19, 2025, 08:18:55 PM »
Real athletes might as well be another species.  Normal people like us rarely if ever compete with them and almost never ever with them actually trying.
But that's why pro athletes scoff when asked how many hits they'd give up in 100 pitches or how'd they do in a game of 21 on the court.  
Zeroes.  Nothing.  Nada.  
If they're just dicking around, sure, you'd get a couple of foul-tips off a MLB pitcher.  But with him actually trying and even changing up his pitches?  Goose-egg.
If an NBA player who isn't even a starter played you 1-on-1, you're not scoring.  You're barely getting any shots off.  
They are genetic aliens who also worked their asses off.  That's all there is to it.
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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #988 on: April 20, 2025, 07:46:19 AM »
I played in HS with a guard who went to UNCC and played there all four years.  He indeed worked very hard on bball.  This was before the 3 point line (but after peach baskets), and he averaged 31 a game.  I think I averaged maybe 12, I was hurt and out a third of the season, and still hobbled when I made it back the last 3 games.

It is a treat to see some of these folks perform when it's at a level one can relate.  One of my favorite plays in baseball is when a SS goes arm side deep into the hole and makes the off balance throw to first, on a line.  I have no idea who in MLB (who plays) has the weakest arm, but they probably can still throw 85.  2nd baseman?   That throw from deep short off balance ....

Nearly every former MLB pitcher I know personally has a blown arm, in some cases they can't throw, or won't throw, 60 feet.  That's about 15 guys total I'd guess.  Maybe Mike Hampton can throw a bit, and Chris can still bring it hard, but he's 40.  I blank on his last name.


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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #989 on: April 20, 2025, 08:25:49 AM »

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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #990 on: April 20, 2025, 12:51:14 PM »
Juvie? 

Felt like it.  I did not want to be there.  I have some fond memories of my time there now, but as I recall, at the time I was miserable.  

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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #991 on: April 21, 2025, 10:10:09 AM »
They are genetic aliens who also worked their asses off.  That's all there is to it.

That part should not be under-appreciated.  When I lived in San Marcos I was on the road a lot for work, but I tried to get into games when I could.  One of the musicians at my church was an grad-assistant or something like that for the Texas State Bobcats basketball team, and he invited me for a shoot-around with them once.....not a serious game, really just having fun.  They were very similar in size (and talent, I'd wager) to the McNeese guys I mentioned.  Thing was, I couldn't keep up with them as well as I had the MSU guys a decade previous.  Why?  Because although I still looked the same, I was nowhere near as active or as in shape as I had been.  I was "only" in my late 20's, which is not young but also not old for NBA players.  Theoretically, I still could have been in a place to not get obliterated by those 19 yr old kids.....but I wasn't.  I simply didn't have the stamina, and they were doing conditioning everyday (in addition to being genetic aliens).  I also found I couldn't jump as high anymore.  Not by much, but it was noticeable to me, and it made a consistent difference.  It was obvious in our goofing-around game that if we'd been serious, they would've smeared me in a way I used to be able to avoid.  I was a bug to them.  A physically inferior, deconditioned, bug.  

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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #992 on: April 21, 2025, 11:14:47 AM »
When I was playing baseball in a league in Cincy, one guy on out team was baseball coach for a local HS.  We played them some tuneup games.  We'd win, generally, but man were they fast.  I played third a bit and was used to taking my time making that throw, nope.  Most of our guys were 35ish, I was 40+, and we'd all slowed down, a lot.

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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #993 on: April 21, 2025, 11:48:58 AM »
Saturday we had the heat, today the AC.  

 

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