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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #196 on: February 07, 2025, 12:08:22 PM »
Either way, we were discussing frontmen for ROCK bands, and neither the Jackson Five or his solo career were anything like that. 

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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #197 on: February 07, 2025, 12:10:11 PM »
Well, Eddie played the guitar solo for Beat It... but yeah fair point.  I brought up Michael Jackson, my bad.

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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #198 on: February 07, 2025, 12:12:35 PM »
Either way, we were discussing frontmen for ROCK bands, and neither the Jackson Five or his solo career were anything like that.
Michael Jackson's solo career his music was almost genreless and well he appeared to be genderless

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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #199 on: February 07, 2025, 12:16:04 PM »
Well, Eddie played the guitar solo for Beat It... but yeah fair point.  I brought up Michael Jackson, my bad.
I believe he actually did it for free too as a favor to Quincy Jones who I'm sure most hardcore musicians back in that day idolized. 

Probably had no idea that song would go on to be one of the biggest of all-time and the album it was on would go on to be the greatest selling album in the history of the world. That album probably has sold in excess of 100 million units worldwide and generated billions of dollars. Eddie probably should've asked for some royalty fees.....probably cost himself millions of dollars there. Not like he needs the money though- he's probably already rich af but still- homie left tons of money on the table there. 

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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #200 on: February 07, 2025, 12:17:34 PM »

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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #201 on: February 07, 2025, 12:24:23 PM »
Yeah I don't think Eddie was hurting for money.  There's something to be said for the goodwill built up when artists help one another.  And "the Q" was legendary, I think we might be surprised at how many hardcore rock musicians respected him.

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« Reply #202 on: February 07, 2025, 01:31:47 PM »
I know who that is.  I bet only a few might.
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« Reply #203 on: February 07, 2025, 01:37:13 PM »

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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #204 on: February 07, 2025, 05:09:44 PM »
I believe he actually did it for free too as a favor to Quincy Jones who I'm sure most hardcore musicians back in that day idolized.

Probably had no idea that song would go on to be one of the biggest of all-time and the album it was on would go on to be the greatest selling album in the history of the world. That album probably has sold in excess of 100 million units worldwide and generated billions of dollars. Eddie probably should've asked for some royalty fees.....probably cost himself millions of dollars there. Not like he needs the money though- he's probably already rich af but still- homie left tons of money on the table there.

Well, yeah, dead guys don't usually need money.

I would imagine he recorded that solo as a union session musician member, in which case the standard deal is you charge an exorbitant rate for the session block, and then whatever happens, happens.  If a song flops, hey, you were paid well for your time.  If a song becomes legendary and generates a bazillion dollars, well, you were paid well for your time.  Much of the work on that album, and that song in particular (minus the EVH solo) was done by the guys from Toto.  It was the same gig for them.  If a song featured "Toto" (I don't think any ever did), it would've been some sort of artist collaboration and royalties would be split.  But when the individual guys worked as session musicians, they just got what they got like everybody else. 

As Steve Lukather, the guitarist on the track doing everything but EVH's solo, and Quincy himself tells the story, Quincy had decided to go for some rock credibility to get MJ some interest with the rock listeners, and he wanted Eddie to deliver that.  But he didn't know Eddie so he had to cold-call him.  He said he was Quincy Jones and was producing the new MJ album and he wanted him (Eddie) to play on a track.  Eddie told him to GTFO and hung up on him.  Stunned, Quincy called back....and got the same response.  On the third try he understood Eddie didn't believe the real Quincy Jones was calling him.  He thought he was being pranked.  So Quincy called Lukather, who did a lot of work for Quincy back in those days, who knew Eddie very well, and told him what was happening.  After getting done laughing, Lukather called up EVH and told him Quincy Jones has been trying to call you, so you need to stop telling him to f*** off.  Eddie claims he turned beet red and sheepishly called Quincy Jones back, full of apology. 

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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #205 on: February 07, 2025, 05:18:46 PM »
The Toto guys did studio work for practically anyone and everyone recording in LA back then.  They're the sound behind almost all of the yacht rock music recorded during that era.

There's an interesting documentary about yacht rock on one of the streaming services, forget which one.  It was pretty fun.


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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #206 on: February 07, 2025, 06:29:34 PM »
Yeah I don't think Eddie was hurting for money.  There's something to be said for the goodwill built up when artists help one another.  And "the Q" was legendary, I think we might be surprised at how many hardcore rock musicians respected him.

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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #207 on: February 07, 2025, 09:07:15 PM »
don't think so, but Eddie $$$ wasn't special as a front man
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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #208 on: February 07, 2025, 09:08:14 PM »
Rod Stewart???

Billy Joel???

Elton John??
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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #209 on: February 07, 2025, 11:12:20 PM »
Rod Stewart???

Billy Joel???

Elton John??

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