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Topic: In 83 Years of AP Polls (national, not just B1G)

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Re: In 83 Years of AP Polls (national, not just B1G)
« Reply #42 on: July 13, 2019, 10:26:23 AM »
  surprising that Ohio St and Oklahoma don't show up in the top 30
We were lulling everyone else into a false sense of security
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Re: In 83 Years of AP Polls (national, not just B1G)
« Reply #43 on: July 13, 2019, 11:06:29 AM »
Oklahoma had a decent run from 1905 through 1926 under Bennie Owen, who won 122 games.  But he lost 54 and tied 16, so his winning percentage is only .677.  And, other than that, there wasn't much to cheer about.

Over your time period, Oklahoma went 9-21- vs. Texas.  And 8 of those 9 wins came under Owen, who went 8-8 vs. the Horns.

There were a couple of claimed Southwest Conference championships in there.  I say claimed because there was not a set number of conference games.  OU claims the 1918 SWC championship with a conference record of 2-0.
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Re: In 83 Years of AP Polls (national, not just B1G)
« Reply #44 on: July 13, 2019, 11:12:26 AM »
Vandy was solid
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Re: In 83 Years of AP Polls (national, not just B1G)
« Reply #45 on: July 13, 2019, 12:07:40 PM »
UGA used to play Yale fairly routinely in the 1920s, usually in New Haven, but Yale traveled down by train in 1929 to inaugurate Sanford Stadium.  A lot of the UGA faculty came from Yale, and of course Yale adopted the Bulldog moniker from UGA, just as Green Bay copied our G.

The Union even copied our fight song in the Civil War, but they changed the words.

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Re: In 83 Years of AP Polls (national, not just B1G)
« Reply #46 on: July 13, 2019, 02:05:24 PM »
UGA used to play Yale fairly routinely in the 1920s, usually in New Haven, but Yale traveled down by train in 1929 to inaugurate Sanford Stadium.  A lot of the UGA faculty came from Yale, and of course Yale adopted the Bulldog moniker from UGA, just as Green Bay copied our G.

The Union even copied our fight song in the Civil War, but they changed the words.
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Re: In 83 Years of AP Polls (national, not just B1G)
« Reply #47 on: July 13, 2019, 02:28:03 PM »
Don't bring those negative waves over here, we don't need'em at all!

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Re: In 83 Years of AP Polls (national, not just B1G)
« Reply #48 on: July 13, 2019, 02:43:14 PM »
I thought it was genuinely funny and that you'd blow a snot bubble laughing at it.  Oh well.
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Re: In 83 Years of AP Polls (national, not just B1G)
« Reply #49 on: July 13, 2019, 07:51:55 PM »
you're thinking again
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Re: In 83 Years of AP Polls (national, not just B1G)
« Reply #50 on: July 14, 2019, 11:11:15 AM »
I thought it was genuinely funny and that you'd blow a snot bubble laughing at it.  Oh well.

I was amused, no doubt, but no snot bubbles.  A guffaw for sure.  I imagine you were amused at my post as well.

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Re: In 83 Years of AP Polls (national, not just B1G)
« Reply #51 on: July 15, 2019, 08:26:26 AM »
I thought it was genuinely funny and that you'd blow a snot bubble laughing at it.  Oh well.
I laughed.  

It is funny because it is really old history.  

As we have discussed before, it is funny how, for a lot of people, their position on what "should" count is coincidentally highly convenient to their rooting interests.  My usual example:
  • Florida fans tend to argue that everything prior to 1990 is ancient history and should not be considered, Spurrier arrived in Gainesville 1990
  • Ohio State fans tend to argue that anything prior to 1951, Woody arrived in Columbus in 1951
  • Michigan fans tend to argue that you have to look at ALL of history or even that the earliest history is the MOST important, Michigan's best decades were EARLY in the history of CFB

I tend to delineate "modern" college football based on either "post WWII" or "the AP Poll era" but I will be the first to admit that this is extraordinarily convenient for an Ohio State fan because:
  • Ohio State's first NC was in 1942 and the second was in 1954.  Thus, by using "AP Poll era" all of tOSU's NC's are included and by using "Post WWII", all but one are included.  
  • Prior to 1936 (first year of the AP Poll), the only really decent runs that Ohio State had were that they went 7-1 in each of the three years immediately prior to the AP Poll (1933-1935) and they were also very good during and immediately after WWI with the exception of an off year in 1918 when most of the players from the great 1914-1917 teams left to join the army:  5-2 in 1914, 5-1-1 in 1915, 7-0 in 1916, 8-0-1 in 1917, 3-3 in 1918, 6-1 in 1919, 7-1 in 1920, 5-2 in 1921.  


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Re: In 83 Years of AP Polls (national, not just B1G)
« Reply #52 on: July 15, 2019, 11:54:11 AM »
Dawg fans think anything between 1946 and 1980 is irrelevant, and anything between 1981 and today if irrelevant, but wait til next year.


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Re: In 83 Years of AP Polls (national, not just B1G)
« Reply #53 on: July 15, 2019, 03:03:10 PM »
Vandy was solid

Texas is, I believe,  3-8-1 against Vandy all-time.  And the teams haven't played since 1926.

That's all off the top of my head, but if not 100% accurate it's really close.

Sure would like to schedule the 'Dores for about a ten year series... :)

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Re: In 83 Years of AP Polls (national, not just B1G)
« Reply #54 on: July 15, 2019, 03:39:53 PM »
I'm doubly bad as a Florida fan, because 1990 is when I started watching and understanding in earnest as a 10 year old.  


When I debate about SEC-centric stuff, I tend to go back to 1992 (divisional play), which I think is fair.  
As for college football eras, we've all had this debate before.  There's pre-AP poll, there's since WWII, and then there's widespread 2-platoon football or full segregation or the scholarship limits.  Take your pick.  
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Re: In 83 Years of AP Polls (national, not just B1G)
« Reply #55 on: July 15, 2019, 03:41:33 PM »
Well, there's also since the beginning or around 1869
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