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Topic: How do you think you would do as head coach in football right now?

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Cincydawg

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Magically, you are suddenly head coach of a P5 football program.  Pick your program.  How do you think you would do versus whoever is there now?

I am pretty sure I don't know enough about the position to have an opinion worth much.  Let's limit this to game week preparation and game day decision making.

Being almost entirely ignorant, I would put enormous authority with the OC and DC and other coaches.  I'd try not to muck up preparation.  I could look at tape and anything I said would probably sound amateurish and stupid, so I'd nod and ask others.

Game day decisions?  Holy cow.  I would go for it on fourth down more than most coaches, probably anywhere outside our own 40 with 3 yards or less to go.  That is situational of course.

Let me take Purdue, because I think their HC is pretty good.  Obviously there would be a fall off, but how much do you think?  Could I woof my way through a few games with the same record or would I botch one he would have won?

Forget recruiting, I'm like SoS on that note.

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Re: How do you think you would do as head coach in football right now?
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2018, 07:19:37 PM »
I'd be catastrophic in terms of ... knowing football. But assembling and motivating a team is a trait I've built over decades. That and press conferences, I like to think I'd have down.

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Re: How do you think you would do as head coach in football right now?
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2018, 07:49:12 PM »
Well, I'll be the first to be boldly arrogant. I could watch film and work on play calling/strategy reasonably well.

Aside from that I would be a dumpster fire.

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Re: How do you think you would do as head coach in football right now?
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2018, 08:01:50 PM »
I am pretty sure I don't know enough about the position to have an opinion worth much.  Let's limit this to game day decision making.

I could make a few decisions on gameday relative to the head coach.  Wouldn't pretend to be able to call plays on either side of the ball on time.  The game moves fast.  I could have some high level input after studying the playbook and watching practice and games for a year.
If I was simply dropped in tomorrow for the Husker Badger game, I'd stay out of the way until Sunday morning
elementary decisions such as:
declining or accepting a penalty, 
attempting a FG, punting, or going for it, 
when to use timeouts and challenges
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Re: How do you think you would do as head coach in football right now?
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2018, 08:45:43 PM »
Not... Not good.
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Re: How do you think you would do as head coach in football right now?
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2018, 08:50:38 PM »
I can tell you what I would not do.    I would not hide my face behind a play card.   There would be going for it on the plus side of the field, aside from very long situations.   I'd probably spend too much time talking and listening to my guys up in the booth, as I tend to operate strategically, in the moment.   They will see what I cannot.

Of course I'd have a gameplan, but as Mike Tyson always said.... That means, I probably wouldn't call the plays.    Oral arguments, panel discussions at conferences, presentations, I keep my plans down to one page or less.   That means a lot drilling to master the material during the week.   If you can't dominate at practice you can't just roll it out there and expect to control the game.

I'd be very distracted by mental mistakes by players.   Kids not lining up properly, I'm sure I'd burn a timeout because of some misalignment on a punt or something like that.   I coach 3rd and 4th grade vball, so I'm stuck on teaching technique, positioning and court awareness.  Talent is randomly distributed, so nobody looks good unless you have kids playing the right way.
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Re: How do you think you would do as head coach in football right now?
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2018, 08:52:13 PM »
None of us would even be mediocre at it because a HC at a P5 school has so much BS and plates to spin, we wouldn't know where to go or what to do.


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Re: How do you think you would do as head coach in football right now?
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2018, 08:54:47 PM »
As a self-employed guy for a whole lot of years, I think I could manage people. And that's where it would stop.
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Re: How do you think you would do as head coach in football right now?
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2018, 10:15:28 PM »
much of our problem with the position would be lack of experience

we have knowledge of the game, passion, some intelligence, although it doesn't appear that is a strong indicator.

we just need practice and reps

I'd guess if we were to stand next to the head coach for 2 -5 years and soak it all up, we could probably at least be functional
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Re: How do you think you would do as head coach in football right now?
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2018, 10:31:41 PM »
much of our problem with the position would be lack of experience
No doubt. And probably true of everything. Although intuition is real, very little talent is inborn in my experience. Yahtzee, hockey, poetry, law, medicine; being great at anything only comes with repetition. It's safe to bet the same of coaching. Practice, practice, practice.
Because even if this means we could all have been particle physicists, how many of us cared so much about that subject to invest the majority of our life to try? On this board, I think the count is zero (my apologies if I've forgotten a person's vocation). Coaching is the same way. The people who do it are - more or less - equally as ab/normal and un/healthy as the rest of us. They do it. So could we. But as with anything, football is sufficiently complicated that we can't rise to a high level without first investing the majority of a life.
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Re: How do you think you would do as head coach in football right now?
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2018, 11:16:23 PM »
The speed at which these endeavors takes place would overwhelm us without appropriate preparation.  Think back to the first time you took the field or court in a real sporting event with refs, fans, a scoreboard, lights, a buzzer and whistles.  Then the strangers on the other team.  It's such a strange feeling the first time.

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Re: How do you think you would do as head coach in football right now?
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2018, 12:04:56 AM »
How much money do I have to hire assistants and what kind of behind the scenes network of boosters to pay for top recruits am I working with?

If I got a blank check and can hire Don Brown away as my DC and Rich Rodriguez as my OC I think I'd be just fine.

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Re: How do you think you would do as head coach in football right now?
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2018, 06:39:26 AM »
I'd go younger than that, so the coordinators would be younger than me.  :93:



Gimme Aranda and Canada, along with a few recruiting aces, and I'd find a way to make it work. Not sure what happened at LSU to make them get rid of Canada after only one season. That's a weird one to me. Just give him the clipboard and headset and leave him alone.
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Re: How do you think you would do as head coach in football right now?
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2018, 07:05:22 AM »
You'd have the DC and OC currently on staff, say at Purdue.

We're a modest bunch here, which is good, and I think realistic.  I was pondering this hypothetical because of the criticism afforded Franklin on his 4th down call, and how often "we" criticize coaching decisions that are obvious on TV.  

I'm reminding myself that I'd be pretty bad at it, in real time, which as noted is different from watching a play call fail on TV and claiming I WOULD have done differently.

Real time is pretty fast, and you only get 3 TOs a half obviously.

 

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