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Topic: How do coaches of Major underdogs actually approach a opener

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FearlessF

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Re: How do coaches of Major underdogs actually approach a opener
« Reply #14 on: Today at 02:15:42 PM »
Kind of a dick move unless he's a repeat offender or he previously p.o.ed the boss and this was his opening
apparently, his salary was sizable.
could have made him a liability
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Re: How do coaches of Major underdogs actually approach a opener
« Reply #15 on: Today at 02:43:56 PM »
How often does a pastry beat a top team early?  I can recall once, maybe some other close calls.  Do you replay the film of Appy State the night before?

It's doubly tough because the top team is going to be pumped at least early on, first game and all.  I agree the coach should practice execution of their game, not put in anything or much weird to try and win.  Listening to his speech pregame might be interesting.


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Re: How do coaches of Major underdogs actually approach a opener
« Reply #16 on: Today at 03:08:59 PM »
I don't know how they actually approach it, but I would assume that if it were me, I'd be focusing on my team's core competency. I might spend more of the mental effort on the emotional side of "taking on the big boys" rather than try to waste my team's time making them do something they can't execute and that distracts them from what they're going to have to do in conference play.

As you point out, the chances of an upset are slim. So focus on what you do and hope you catch the other team napping, get some good bounces / turnovers, etc...

I'd probably have a couple of unique wrinkles, maybe a trick play or two that could be brought out situationally... But I wouldn't deviate too much from doing what my team does.
I agree with this, pretty similar to what @FearlessF said upthread as well.  

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Re: How do coaches of Major underdogs actually approach a opener
« Reply #17 on: Today at 03:21:30 PM »
How often does a pastry beat a top team early?  I can recall once, maybe some other close calls.  Do you replay the film of Appy State the night before?
It should be noted that the Michigan team that ApSt upset wasn't nearly as good as their preseason #5 ranking and that obviously helped the Mountaineers a LOT.  

Michigan dropped all the way from #5 to unranked then got obliterated by Oregon which wasn't a conference game at the time.  After the Oregon loss the Wolverines didn't even receive any votes for two weeks but they smoked what turned out to be a terrible Notre Dame team then beat a pretty good Penn State team and got back to getting votes.  

They rattled off eight straight wins and got all the way up to #13 at 8-2 but then lost badly (37-21) in Madison and dropped to #23 before losing at home to Ohio State and dropping back out.  They finished the season with an also-ran Capital One Bowl win over Florida and were ranked #18 in the final poll.  Unranked ApSt upsetting #18 Michigan doesn't have the same shock value.  

My point is that if you are the heavy underdog you can't realistically win just based on what YOU do.  Ie, Ohio State and Texas are probable preseason top-5 teams and if they are legitimate top-5 teams then how well BallSt/TexasSt play against them will only impact the margin, the end result is a foregone conclusion.  The upset is only a possibility if the favorite is overrated or the favorite plays really poorly or some combination of the two.  

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Re: How do coaches of Major underdogs actually approach a opener
« Reply #18 on: Today at 04:02:53 PM »
Maybe not, but Michigan should never lose to App. State. Never.




But I loved it when Michigan did.

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Re: How do coaches of Major underdogs actually approach a opener
« Reply #19 on: Today at 04:05:15 PM »
I dimly recall when Stanford was a 43 point dog and beat USC.  We all realize it's possible given certain events, just very improbable.


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Re: How do coaches of Major underdogs actually approach a opener
« Reply #20 on: Today at 04:42:09 PM »
Rhule needs to pull an upset this season

it's been since 2015 for the Huskers
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Re: How do coaches of Major underdogs actually approach a opener
« Reply #21 on: Today at 05:11:49 PM »
That Stanford team may have had the best 4-8 season in football history. First, it upset USC, beating the 43-point spread, the largest in history. USC finished the year AP #3.
And if you know anything about the old Pac-10/12 conference, beating USC is always a big deal. The bigger the upset, the bigger the deal.

Then Stanford upset Cal--it's primary rival--for the first time in six years (and the first under Harbaugh), to finish the season on a win, and with the trophy Stanford most covets (the Axe). Cal finished the year 7-6, with a bowl win over Air Force (it had started the year AP #12!).

If you're going to suck, at least beat your main rival and shock the nation with an historic upset of a national title contender.

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Re: How do coaches of Major underdogs actually approach a opener
« Reply #22 on: Today at 05:20:55 PM »
It seems to be the consensus, and I agree....

Use the game as an extra practice to solidify what you do best, and play mistake free fundamental football.

If you find yourself in a game, a winnable one at that --- this is what got you there, so keep doing it.

 

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