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Topic: Helmet Teams -- who are they?

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jgvol

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Helmet Teams -- who are they?
« on: September 06, 2023, 12:28:31 PM »
I see the "helmet teams" tossed around over here on the B1G board quite frequently.

Who are they?

Obviously, Michigan, Ohio St., ND, Bama, USC ..... some go without saying.

How far does the list go?  Who is on it?

Gimme a list.
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847badgerfan

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Re: Helmet Teams -- who are they?
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2023, 12:32:18 PM »
Could probably start here.

From Georgia, finally elevated, to 5 teams now peasants: Stew Mandel’s Kings & Barons - The Athletic
From Georgia, finally elevated, to 5 teams now peasants: Stew Mandel’s Kings & Barons - The Athletic
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Re: Helmet Teams -- who are they?
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2023, 12:47:52 PM »
I'll also add this: As much as we like lists and will argue about where Kings end and Barons start, reality doesn't actually work that way. 

It is a mistake to look at the current top-25 and say that Clemson (#25) is great because they are ranked while Iowa (first ORV) sucks because they aren't. 
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jgvol

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Re: Helmet Teams -- who are they?
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2023, 12:48:14 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on September 06, 2023, 12:32:18 PM
Could probably start here.

From Georgia, finally elevated, to 5 teams now peasants: Stew Mandel’s Kings & Barons - The Athletic
From Georgia, finally elevated, to 5 teams now peasants: Stew Mandel’s Kings & Barons - The Athletic

Cant start there without a sub.  :)
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Re: Helmet Teams -- who are they?
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2023, 12:49:07 PM »
If you can afford $75/year, it's well worth it.
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Re: Helmet Teams -- who are they?
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2023, 12:55:15 PM »




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Re: Helmet Teams -- who are they?
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2023, 12:59:02 PM »
Those tiers are dumb.  Putting Clemson in the same tier as the other "Kings" is silly.  

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« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2023, 01:15:47 PM »
Mandel admits that it's recency bias.
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Re: Helmet Teams -- who are they?
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2023, 01:16:10 PM »
Quote from: jgvol on September 06, 2023, 12:48:14 PM
Cant start there without a sub.  :)
Put a period after .com and before the slash, and you'll get in. 

https://theathletic.com./3361576/2022/06/14/alabama-georgia-emperors-kings-barons/
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Re: Helmet Teams -- who are they?
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2023, 01:41:52 PM »
I'd say there are like 15 teams, with 3 a cut above the rest....

The triumvirate:
Bama
OSU
Georgia

those 3 run shit right now, basically land whoever they want in recruiting, have sustained high level success for the past decade and a half.

Blue Bloods:
Michigan
Notre Dame
USC
Texas
Oklahoma

Helmets:
LSU
Penn State
Florida State
Florida
Tennessee
Clemson
Oregon

Nebraska used to be on this list, think they might've lost their spot. Miami was on this list too, but they've fallen off the map too. Clemson and Oregon probably took those spots.
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Re: Helmet Teams -- who are they?
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2023, 02:22:39 PM »
Explain to me why ND is on this list even though they haven't done anything this century to deserve it?  
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Re: Helmet Teams -- who are they?
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2023, 02:24:26 PM »
Quote from: Gigem on September 06, 2023, 02:22:39 PM
Explain to me why ND is on this list even though they haven't done anything this century to deserve it? 
Which college football programs were the most-watched in 2022? | by Zach Miller | Run It Back With Zach | Medium

Not the greatest measurement but it's a start.

Maryland, for example, plays UM, OSU and PSU every year. Of course, their ratings look better than some.
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Re: Helmet Teams -- who are they?
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2023, 02:28:09 PM »
Quote from: Gigem on September 06, 2023, 02:22:39 PM
Explain to me why ND is on this list even though they haven't done anything this century to deserve it?
it's ND...they are always going to be on the list. whether you, me, or anyone like it. they are a foundational cornerstone brand of the sport. they are way up there on all-time wins, winning %, heismans, national titles, 1st round picks, NFL HOFers. they can recruit nationally and land top 10 classes. not every school can do that. massive national fan base. huge tv ratings.

as for what they've done this century, well they have been to the playoff, and they also went to the bcs national title game a decade or so ago.
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Re: Helmet Teams -- who are they?
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2023, 02:28:50 PM »

Quote from: Gigem on September 06, 2023, 02:22:39 PM
Explain to me why ND is on this list even though they haven't done anything this century to deserve it? 
Huh?  Notre Dame has made it into the CFP twice, including as recently as 2020/2021.

But that aside, people still watch and talk about helmet teams even when they suck.  It's part of the definition.

IMO, it's what makes Notre Dame the biggest helmet of them all.



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