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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #280 on: July 21, 2022, 07:05:25 PM »
Texas, going 5-7, last year is bagging lots of top notch recruits as of late. 
Sark is still new and unknown at Texas and can play that card for maybe another season.  And Texas has one of the strongest NIL games, along with Ohio State, Oregon, and Miami.




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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #281 on: July 22, 2022, 02:20:21 AM »
Texas getting a great class out of nowhere:  plausible.
A&M getting a great class out of nowhere:  cheating, but after it's allowed and actually not cheating
Ole Miss getting a great class out of nowhere:  just cheating 
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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #282 on: July 22, 2022, 02:25:12 AM »
yup, someone promises me $100,000

I want it in writing or upfront

Eric Dickerson got his Trans Am upfront!
Offers a kid a Trans Am in 2022:  "I don't want to change my pronouns!"
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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #283 on: July 22, 2022, 07:40:38 AM »
The NIL thing seems broken already to me.

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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #284 on: July 22, 2022, 07:50:22 AM »
It was never going to be anything other than crazy, compared to how things were before.

But at the same time, I don't think college kids should be denied the same basic economic rights that anyone else in this country possesses.


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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #285 on: July 22, 2022, 08:09:17 AM »
Your third string long snapper isn't getting much here.  What if NIL monies are pooled and doled out so they have walking around money, not millions, and then get a pension at the end of their playing time?  It seems like a bidding war now, because it is.  Obviously there are some very deep pockets among boosters who are willing to shell out to buy an NC, and as we noted, a season short of an NC is insufficient for these teams.

I dunno, seems really broke to me.  I suppose these elite players have always had "ulterior" motives for going here or there, and leaving here for there later.  Dunno, takes some of the enjoyment out of the game for me.

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« Reply #286 on: July 22, 2022, 09:36:46 AM »
Your third string long snapper isn't getting much here.  What if NIL monies are pooled and doled out so they have walking around money, not millions, and then get a pension at the end of their playing time? 
A week after announcing a $200 million facilities project, the Texas Tech football team got another boost Monday when the Matador Club, a local collective, told the Lubbock Avalanche-Journal that it will sign 100 Red Raiders players to one-year, $25,000 NIL contracts.
The deal will be for all 85 scholarship players plus 15 of Texas Tech's walk-ons, according to Cody Campbell, an oil and gas executive who is a member of the Matador Club board of directors and a former Texas Tech offensive lineman.
Campbell said that players will be expected to do community service and charitable work in the Lubbock area, and that payments will start to go out the first week of August.
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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #287 on: July 22, 2022, 10:01:17 AM »
NIL is what happens when you know something is going to radically change things and you put no plan in place.
Those who benefit are either football stud maybes OR Olympic sport bikini hotties on Instagram.  Everyone else is hoping for $500 from 'the rich guy.'
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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #288 on: July 22, 2022, 10:12:51 AM »
or all 85 scholarship players plus 15 walk-ons
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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #289 on: July 22, 2022, 10:21:15 AM »
or all 85 scholarship players plus 15 walk-ons

Yup.  These large collective NIL player grants weren't really the intended outcome, but they are logical and effective.  They solve a couple of problems simultaneously.  They get around the "can't provide NIL money to recruits before they're on-campus" provisions that some states have, by supplying and publicizing a base level of minimum money a player at a particular school can expect, once they reach campus.  Also, by providing money to all scholarship players (or certain position groups in other implementations) simultaneously, they can potentially minimize the jealousy and in-fighting that are likely to develop if one player is getting something, and another is getting nothing.


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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #290 on: July 22, 2022, 10:27:03 AM »
This overall grant to the team as a whole works for me.

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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #291 on: July 22, 2022, 10:45:03 AM »
This overall grant to the team as a whole works for me.
But of course that's just one of the things happening.

Another is the personal promotion-- such as Quinn Ewers signing his own deal with a Kombucha tea/beverage company, that is independent of where he plays and is based solely on that company's belief that associating their own brand, with that of Quinn Ewers, is advantageous.  This is the type of deal that I consider to be the true intent of NIL.  And this is where the attractive female gymnasts, volleyball players, etc. will be making their NIL work for them.

But that "true intent" was never going to be the only way it would be implemented.
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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #292 on: July 22, 2022, 11:51:18 AM »
Quinn, of course, could buy his O-line electric bycycles or some other fancy gadget, or nice post-game meals at the local steakhouse.

Of would THAT be an NCAA violation of impermissible benefit ?
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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #293 on: July 22, 2022, 12:00:39 PM »
The NCAA is basically a mall cop, no?
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