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Been a lot of Chris Jent chatter, which....

Good stuff. I was particularly struck by the bolded line below...

Of course he goes on (in the snipped portions) to talk about how Day changed course and is doing (from outside observation at least) everything that suggests he recognizes his mistakes and he's addressing them.

This to me is what makes the situation similar to Painter when he hit his 2-year slump. Obviously we've already talked about the history of success he had with the Baby Boilers, but literally he had flirted with the Missouri job to get additional resources for the BB program (and a nice raise for himself obv), and then just after doing that, the program hit a tailspin.

I think the difference is that Painter, like Day, recognized that HE was making mistakes. Painter owned up to it with the AD, explained how HE was going to change and how it would help, and the AD took his word for it and gave him enough rope to either hang himself or swing to safety.

I can't know what went on behind closed doors between Holtmann and Smith, but apparently Smith didn't think the situation was going to right itself under Holtmann.

It is interesting because change can be difficult for any of us. All of these guys have had success, if they hadn't they wouldn't be in these positions.

I think they have a tendency to think "I got here by doing X, if I keep doing X, it should be successful again."

At the same time, the old saying about the definition of insanity comes to mind. Maybe times have changed or maybe you just got lucky earlier and rather than X, you need to try Y.

Painter made changes and he's about to win yet another league title. Day made massive changes and we'll see. Holtmann well, he is gone.

Maybe they misspelled Chris Jans?

Jans isn't friends with Lebron James. Totally unqualified.

Probably best to keep Bronny away anyway.  Averaging 5.7 ppg on 27% 3 point shooting on a 10-16 USC team

I wonder if he’ll ever end up somewhere where that messy BG stuff actually matters.

Since then, he’s been at the types of schools where it just doesn’t.

I totally forgot about that until you brought it up.  Totally not like OSU to hire a former BGSU coach with an affinity for co-eds

Bjork says head coaching experience is a major factor, which soothes my aching heart.

Getting whipped by Minnesota won't help the Diebler cause

Definitely doesn't. I think that Diebler's only real chance is to AT LEAST make the Tournament and with that loss the odds of that are getting ridiculously long. 

They probably aren't going to take down Izzo in the Breslin Center late in the season (Sunday at 4 on CBS) but after that the last three all look at least plausibility winnable:

• Vs Nebraska 
• Vs Michigan 
• At Rutgers 

If they go 3-1 in their last four they head to Minneapolis at 18-13/8-12. 

Best-case-scenario from there is probably to get the #11 seed where they get a (should be) easy game against Michigan on Wednesday then a difficult but not silly odds game against #6 on Thursday. Winning those two would put them at 20-13 but still probably isn't enough. They'd probably need to win at least the quarter-final on Friday.