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Topic: G5 Scheduling Alliance Proposal

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MrNubbz

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Re: G5 Scheduling Alliance Proposal
« Reply #28 on: October 29, 2021, 01:25:42 AM »
8 team playoff, no automatic bids, no first round byes, no special favors for Notre Dame or G5.  Just the eight best teams would do wonders for this sport.
Expanding the playoffs,extending the season just encourages more Sunday bound kids to beg off and get ready for the League.Why risk it to satisfy greedy networks/athletic departments and the occasional wild card might win but the present alignment is fine
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Re: G5 Scheduling Alliance Proposal
« Reply #29 on: October 29, 2021, 05:26:04 AM »
Medina, I respect you greatly, but with this sport and especially with the particular outlook you have on the sport, there will be no fairness. That's how it ends.

If half the sport can't have a chance of competing on day one, there's no need to talk about fairness at all. None. And that's fine. It's unfair to the core. Nature of the beast.
But letting the Sun Belt champ into a playoff is no different than it is now - they have no chance.  They have no chance if you're selective/exclusive and they have no chance if you're inclusive.
The point is that now they can't win a NC in the abstract and letting them in a playoff will simply transform that into reality.  It will expose it from an opinion now to a fact in a playoff.  Why put a spotlight on it? 
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Right now, they're choosing to be in purgatory.  That's their choice.  They are choosing to value the money they make in FBS over the championship opportunities of FCS.  They know a NC is impossible in FBS, and they've accepted that in order to bring in more money.
Who made them do this?  NO ONE.
So sorry if altering the entire postseason system to cater to them doesn't make any sense to most poeple.
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Re: G5 Scheduling Alliance Proposal
« Reply #30 on: October 29, 2021, 06:45:37 AM »
Your idea is something that's never happened, would decrease money for the school in question, and has zero possibility of actually happening. 
Did I miss anything?
Ah yes. Why push ideas that make the sport better for everyone when it may have financial costs for the very top programs? How unlike me.

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Re: G5 Scheduling Alliance Proposal
« Reply #31 on: October 29, 2021, 06:48:36 AM »

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Best teams in is actually fair.  

There is a difference.  
Sure, whatever. The problem you have is you have no actual system to ensure the best teams are in. You have a lot of fancystats and computer comparisons and hypotheticals and poindexters. My way has results on the field. Which is fairer? Is it the system where every team gets a chance to prove they are the best by playing the game of football, or is it the system where teams play and then we run it through a bunch of algorithms and "eye tests" to decide who was actually best. I know which I think is better. Plus my way makes more games way more meaningful, meaning it's a lot more fun, to boot. 

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Re: G5 Scheduling Alliance Proposal
« Reply #32 on: October 29, 2021, 06:55:17 AM »

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The point is that now they can't win a NC in the abstract and letting them in a playoff will simply transform that into reality.  It will expose it from an opinion now to a fact in a playoff.  Why put a spotlight on it? 
Again, your way depends on these hypothetical future matchups that haven't happened and to which only you know the result. It's a joke. Why play football at all? By your logic only about 6 teams should even play college football in a given season. Everyone else is just putting a spotlight on the fact that they aren't national championship contenders. Great system you have.

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Re: G5 Scheduling Alliance Proposal
« Reply #33 on: October 29, 2021, 07:40:28 AM »
What in the world are y'all doing in Florida, anyway?  There's no Great Lakes for your boat, muggy as hell, and hurricanes to boot. 

Actually, that makes me wonder what I'm doing here.

Tell Mrs. 847 hello.  I may or may not have grown up a little bit since y'all saw me last. 
Lots of water for the boat. I think we've grown up too, but I don't remember.
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Re: G5 Scheduling Alliance Proposal
« Reply #34 on: October 29, 2021, 07:49:41 AM »
Ah yes. Why push ideas that make the sport better for everyone when it may have financial costs for the very top programs? How unlike me.
Name a situation in which the powers that be - the ones who benefit most from the current paradigm - simply volunteered their position away.  
***and your idea making the sport better for everyone would have to be demonstrated before anyone should believe it.
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Re: G5 Scheduling Alliance Proposal
« Reply #35 on: October 29, 2021, 07:51:52 AM »
"Poindexters" know stuff. 
747s aren't cruising at 35,000' because Boeing hired every aeronautical engineer to give them a shot....probably just the top handful.
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Re: G5 Scheduling Alliance Proposal
« Reply #36 on: October 29, 2021, 07:53:46 AM »

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***and your idea making the sport better for everyone would have to be demonstrated before anyone should believe it.
You can't possibly believe that Tuesday night MACtion would have *less* juice when the teams are competing for a playoff spot.

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Re: G5 Scheduling Alliance Proposal
« Reply #37 on: October 29, 2021, 07:54:41 AM »
"Poindexters" know stuff. 
747s aren't cruising at 35,000' because Boeing hired every aeronautical engineer to give them a shot....probably just the top handful.
Sure. And people who travel know stuff. You are advocating for the Total Recall experience, where we simulate the games and then enjoy that.

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Re: G5 Scheduling Alliance Proposal
« Reply #38 on: October 29, 2021, 08:49:52 AM »
We are headed to NFL-lite - probably already there.

Free agency, NIL, 24/7/365 recruiting/retaining.


If this is what is wanted, the P5 should just break off and go its separate way. 
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Re: G5 Scheduling Alliance Proposal
« Reply #39 on: October 29, 2021, 10:13:39 AM »
8 team playoff, no automatic bids, no first round byes, no special favors for Notre Dame or G5.  Just the eight best teams would do wonders for this sport.
That's even worse. 

What I hear around here is that people want individual games to matter. They want the regular season to matter. [Some of them] want conference championships to matter. 

Going to 8 without any auto-bids tears all of that down, and all you get in return is some more money for the TV networks. 

If you have 8, a conference championship doesn't matter. With 4, the committee has proven that it doesn't mean everything, but it still means something, in the selection process. You have to be special to get in without a conference championship.

If you have 8, you'll be getting teams with multiple mulligans. You'll get a 10-2 SEC team that didn't even qualify for its championship game, that has won nothing of note, that has earned nothing. 

If you have 8, you'll have even more teams "scheduling wins" OOC than they currently do, because a team will KNOW that being 11-1 and not going to their conference championship game is enough. Ohio State couldn't survive a pasting by Purdue in 2018. They would with 8 teams. 

The ONLY point of going to 8 (or 12) is to allow auto-bids. That's the only reason I'm in favor of it, actually, because then P5 conference championships are always meaningful. If you're not going to go auto-bids, might as well stay at 4. 

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Re: G5 Scheduling Alliance Proposal
« Reply #40 on: October 29, 2021, 10:32:14 AM »
4 hasn't seemed to solve any problems

let's go back to two
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Re: G5 Scheduling Alliance Proposal
« Reply #41 on: October 29, 2021, 10:55:49 AM »
Nothing preventing say, TAMU, from joining the Sun Belt.

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