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Mdot21

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#FireHarbaugh - #FireFrost
« on: November 07, 2020, 02:32:10 PM »
He is done. There is no way he keeps his job. Who does Michigan go after? There is no clear cut young up and comer like Meyer back in 2002/2003, and there is no clear cut elite coach like Saban when he left the NFL to come back to Bama.

It’s going to be a gamble no matter who they hire. They need someone who can bring their offense into the 21st century with tempo and a vertical passing game. Don’t know who that someone is. 
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Re: #FireHarbaugh
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2020, 02:41:10 PM »
Would Fickel listen?

Justin Wilcox at Cal?

M is a tough job, with the expectations and all that comes with.

Ohio State is historically great and shows no signs of slowing down. It will be tough for anyone in this conference to catch them (not talking about a random upset either).
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Re: #FireHarbaugh
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2020, 02:43:11 PM »
Were I an up and coming young coach, I would wait for a different offer no matter the money.

Seriously.
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Re: #FireHarbaugh
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2020, 02:47:43 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on November 07, 2020, 02:41:10 PM
Would Fickel listen?

Justin Wilcox at Cal?

M is a tough job, with the expectations and all that comes with.

Ohio State is historically great and shows no signs of slowing down. It will be tough for anyone in this conference to catch them (not talking about a random upset either).
Fickel isn’t a fit imo. He’s a defensive minded coach. And honestly not really sold him just yet. 

I’m sorry but that is horse shit. You don’t lose to Michigan State as much as Harbaugh has done- and you don’t get blown out by freaking Indiana and lose to shit Iowa teams on the road like they did in 2016- and lose Bowl game after Bowl game and get blown out by Ohio State every year and expect to keep your job. 

The dude is going to lose his job because he’s getting blown out by Ohio State every single year and he’s dropping games to Indiana, Iowa, and Michigan State constantly. He has never won a game as an underdog at Michigan. Ever. 

If he was just beating Michigan State all the time and being competitive with Ohio State he wouldn’t be in danger of losing his job. 
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Re: #FireHarbaugh
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2020, 02:55:29 PM »
I think the players just quit on Jim. 

Starting to think what all the people at Stanford/49ers said about Jim. He’s got a short shelf life. He’s good for 4-5 years max and then he burns everyone out around him because he’s such an Aspergers weirdo. 

He’s a turnaround artist. But once he gets to his pinnacle he falls down fast. Happened in San Fran- his last year they went 8-8. It’s all falling apart right before our eyes.
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Re: #FireHarbaugh
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2020, 03:23:03 PM »
We want him to stay.....for obvious reasons!
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Re: #FireHarbaugh
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2020, 04:02:00 PM »
Yeah, he makes for a great heel character. Cartoonish, frankly.

I hope he stays.
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« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2020, 05:29:34 PM »
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Re: #FireHarbaugh
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2020, 05:46:34 PM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on November 07, 2020, 05:29:34 PM

https://twitter.com/JermainCrowell/status/1325173363111768069?s=19
Another valid criticism of Jim- his war with Belleville HS head coach- by far the top talent producing HS in the state. Makes ZERO sense to not only alienate but go to war with the head coach of a school in your backyard that produces 5*’s and 4’s* every single year.

Back to speaking about Michigan, Milton looks about how I thought. Super talented. Still SUPER raw. McCaffrey was the guy. Jim ran him off.

Looking at that interior DL and the DT’s and how awful they’ve been. Anybody going to sit there and tell me they couldn’t have used Aubrey Solomon and Mike Dwumfour this year? Two kids who hated Harbaugh so much they had to get out. Lol.

Don Brown and his defenses don’t look so hot without Greg Mattison’s and Chris Partridge’s recruiting and without Mattison there to build elite or near elite level DL’s.
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Re: #FireHarbaugh
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2020, 06:01:06 PM »

Tom VanHaaren
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After Michigan's first loss to Indiana since 1987 and the team's second straight loss of the season, Jim Harbaugh said after the game that he still believes this team is close to turning the corner.

The Wolverines are now 1-2 on the season and Harbaugh is 2-8 against AP ranked opponents on the road after the 38-21 loss to the Hoosiers. Michigan's defense has struggled the past two games, giving up 460 yards to Indiana and 449 yards to Michigan State and has racked up penalties and mistakes along the way.

Despite those errors and the two losses, Harbaugh said he still has faith in his team.

"Personal feeling is we're close to doing it," Harbaugh said. "You see it done (in practice), you see it happening and then it's gotta take the next step of happening in the games. There's guys that are doing it (in the games) and others will get it and you just keep coaching.

"As a coach, that's what you do, you keep coaching and players keep learning and they get the experience of they can do it."

He believes his players need to trust their technique, trust their fundamentals and trust their innate ability in games. He knows the results haven't shown it and the product on the field doesn't show evidence of this team being close, but he believes there is a disconnect from what his team does in practice and in games.

For some reason the players aren't trusting themselves in the games and are still playing with hesitation and, as Harbaugh says, they need to just "let it go" and make quick, decisive decisions.

Harbaugh has drawn heavy criticism for the results so far this season and so has defensive coordinator Don Brown. Breaking a 24 game win streak against Indiana and losing to a Michigan State team coming off of a loss to Rutgers will naturally bring skepticism.

Despite the fact that Harbaugh is in year six as Michigan's head coach, he isn't in panic mode just yet. When asked if he thought he needed to make any drastic changes with personnel or coaches, Harbaugh said he loves what he is seeing from his players and coaches.

"They work extremely hard, their schemes are really good and they coach them good," Harbaugh said. "We just keep forging ahead, keep, stay after it to make that next step. Critical step."

The defense wasn't the only problem in this game as Michigan was held to just 13 rush yards in a game that was never close.

The questions about the direction of this team continue to mount, but Harbaugh says he and his team will continue to move forward and stay the course.

"Every single guy here, every single player here, every single coach here has experienced that in our life where they have taken the adverse and turning it into an advantage," Harbaugh said. "The thing you have to do is push forward, keep going."



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Re: #FireHarbaugh
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2020, 07:12:13 PM »
not sure beating a Minnesota team that was depleted in many areas should be credited with a top 25 win for Jim
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« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2020, 07:46:35 PM »
love this thread
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Re: #FireHarbaugh
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2020, 07:47:11 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on November 07, 2020, 02:43:11 PM
Were I an up and coming young coach, I would wait for a different offer no matter the money.

Seriously.
that's a LOT of money

seriously
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Re: #FireHarbaugh
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2020, 11:27:11 PM »
I saw a headline a few days ago that said Jim Harbaugh was considering the NFL.  I don't think Michigan will need to fire him; maybe, if he can't find an NFL job.
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