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Cincydawg

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Re: Explaination on topic closing
« Reply #112 on: May 10, 2020, 04:20:01 PM »
They aren't restricted.  Restaurants provide what customers want.

Not what lobbyists tell them to provide.

A lobbyist by definition tries to influence a PUBLIC OFFICIAL.

A marketer tries to influence the PUBLIC.

The two terms are not the same, at all, and you have conflated them, hilariously.
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Re: Explaination on topic closing
« Reply #113 on: May 10, 2020, 04:25:27 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on May 10, 2020, 03:04:25 PM
I think it may have started with the farmers, having that big breakfast before working all day in the fields?? Then spilled into the factories, etc.

We don't need to eat like that anymore, and shouldn't. Best to be up for about 4 hours, and then eat. Drink lots of water to hydrate for the day too, upon waking.
I'm curious why is it best?
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Re: Explaination on topic closing
« Reply #114 on: May 10, 2020, 04:30:35 PM »
Because it is what he does, probably.  I imagine many of us think what we do is "best", and maybe it is for US personally.  My breakfast usually is some veggie fruit milkshake thing the wife makes.  I used to go to the office and make coffee and eat a breakfast bar.  When I was a kid I had 4 eggs and grits.

Our bodies are remarkably resilient to what we throw at it, our stomachs are amazing chemical processing units.  But, we're really configured to eat less meat and walk a LOT during the day.
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Re: Explaination on topic closing
« Reply #115 on: May 10, 2020, 04:30:59 PM »
McDs. Historical resistance to all day breakfast and restrictions on burgers and fries had more to do with kitchen workflow management than it did when people want Egg McMuffins and Big Macs, though personal traditional habits are a damn good reason to.

They also shut down their McFlurry/ice cream machine for an extended period each week due to maintenance reasons.
Reminds me,
DQ pulled Snickers blizzards because they kept fkjng up the Blizzard machines. 

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Re: Explaination on topic closing
« Reply #116 on: May 10, 2020, 04:34:47 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on May 10, 2020, 04:20:01 PM
They aren't restricted.  Restaurants provide what customers want.

Not what lobbyists tell them to provide.

A lobbyist by definition tries to influence a PUBLIC OFFICIAL.

A marketer tries to influence the PUBLIC.

The two terms are not the same, at all, and you have conflated them, hilariously.
Yeah, I haven't, so you can stop suggesting that.  
Thanks for making me now spell it out to prove conflation hasn't occurred.  Fun waste of time.
The egg/chicken producers spend lots of monies on lobbyists and marketing.  They spend money on lobbyists to block legislation that harms their incomes and to promote legislation that aids their incomes.  They spend money on advertisers to keep the masses duped into thinking breakfast foods are a thing.  The marketers come up with cute slogans and wholesome imagery to appeal to the masses' hearts and wallets.  

Thanks for wasting my time.
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Re: Explaination on topic closing
« Reply #117 on: May 10, 2020, 04:37:45 PM »
Well, you have provided considerable entertainment for us all, so thanks.

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Re: Explaination on topic closing
« Reply #118 on: May 10, 2020, 04:37:54 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on May 10, 2020, 04:20:01 PM
They aren't restricted.  Restaurants provide what customers want.

No!  Restaurants provide what the customers want within arbitrary confines.  If the whole menu was available all day, breakfast food sales would decrease in the AM because people would begin ordering what they actually want. 

You would have a point if restaurants once offered their entire menu from 6am-on, but I'm not aware of any that ever did that.  They either served breakfast-only, then lunch/dinner or didn't open until lunchtime with no 'breakfast' offerings.
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Re: Explaination on topic closing
« Reply #119 on: May 10, 2020, 04:38:36 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on May 10, 2020, 04:37:45 PM
Well, you have provided considerable entertainment for us all, so thanks.


That, I'm fine with.  We're in the offseason and quarantined.  This is a pet peeve of mine.  Obscure and silly, to be sure.
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Re: Explaination on topic closing
« Reply #120 on: May 10, 2020, 04:39:06 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on May 09, 2020, 01:54:25 PM
It's the egg lobby. 
There's no reason for "breakfast" food at all.  Eat what you like at every meal.  NOPE! 

Let's set aside these foods to be eaten in the morning time, so that they may carve out a spot at the table (both figuratively and literally).  Cereals (straight up sugar in sugary milk for kids), bacon (good anytime), and mostly, eggs. 

Hooray lobbyists!
No mention of marketing, just the egg lobby.
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Re: Explaination on topic closing
« Reply #121 on: May 10, 2020, 04:42:05 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on May 10, 2020, 04:39:06 PM
No mention of marketing, just the egg lobby.

Jeezis Kryst.  
Without the lobbyists, unfavorable legislation would render the marketers useless (or at least hamstrung).  The song and dance don't work unless there's someone behind the screen moving the levers up and down.
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Re: Explaination on topic closing
« Reply #122 on: May 10, 2020, 04:42:30 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on May 09, 2020, 02:19:56 PM
You're describing a situation in which eggs would be eaten at any, and possibly, every meal.  But once we got past that time and made all foods available (you know....a grocery store), eggs were getting lost in the shuffle. 

Think about it - when do you use eggs outside of eggs at breakfast.  Baking and....fried rice?  As a coating for frying maybe?  Vastly different volume.

The less influence you believe a lobby has had, the more effective that lobby is. They've used "tradition" as a way of remaining at high-volume. 

Again, blaming the egg lobby, which is patently absurd.
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Re: Explaination on topic closing
« Reply #123 on: May 10, 2020, 04:44:34 PM »
OK, I suspect nearly everyone here thinks we tend to eat eggs for breakfast because of tradition, and somewhat because of marketing.

If you want to think it's the egg lobby, fine with me.  I find the notion to be quite hilarious and ignorant myself.

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Re: Explaination on topic closing
« Reply #124 on: May 10, 2020, 04:47:52 PM »
I'm guessing the egg lobby would try to promote eggs as the most popular breakfast food.

the egg lobby would also try to promote the eating of eggs at noon,  6pm, or 9pm
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Re: Explaination on topic closing
« Reply #125 on: May 10, 2020, 05:27:22 PM »
They also try and influence regulations and labeling requirements to their benefit.  Ever wonder what "cage free" means?  Not much.  One can smell lobbyists all over this one.  Not the egg industry can sell cage free eggs at 2-3x markup over regular eggs, without doing anything.

Cage-Free Eggs: • The term is not codified by either FDA or USDA/AMS. The term is misleading because the statement of identity is “EGGS” not Cage Free Eggs. • Suggested Verbiage – Eggs that originated from a cage-free environment. • Once the Statement of Identity (EGGS) has been met, you can combine “Cage-Free” with “Eggs”. • Cage Free definition: Eggs packed in USDA grademarked consumer packages labeled as cage free must be produced by hens housed in a building, room, or enclosed area that allows for unlimited access to food, water, and provides the freedom to roam within the area during the laying cycle.
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