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Topic: Establishing an OOC Rivalry

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Cincydawg

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Re: Establishing an OOC Rivalry
« Reply #98 on: June 25, 2020, 03:38:07 PM »
Had I not met the wife, I probably would have found 30 acres or so somewhere up in the hills and had a bunch of dogs for friends.

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Re: Establishing an OOC Rivalry
« Reply #99 on: June 25, 2020, 03:38:15 PM »
Okay, care to discuss the other 99% of matchups that wouldn't immediately sell out?  Especially after the novelty has worn off and it's just another bowl game played in freezing temps? 

This "yeah, but" crap of citing the most exceptional example possible is garbage and you know it.
I agree with @OrangeAfroMan to an extent.  For minor bowls the destination HAS TO be a draw.  VERY few fans are going to travel to a cold-weather city in December/January to watch their 6-6 team take on somebody else's 7-5 team.  However, the CFP games could be played in Antarctica and fans would be clamoring to go.  

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Re: Establishing an OOC Rivalry
« Reply #100 on: June 25, 2020, 03:42:13 PM »
The outcome might surprise the old fogies obsessed with weather and Rust Belt pride.
How about middle aged flamers?It's called home field,and it's nothing new.All things being equal Go play Denver up in the Rockies and find out what elevation is if you're not acclimated.How many years was it before Tampa Bay won in Green Bay?this was when the Pack was very pedestrian for the most part.Travel and temperature matter - whether you agree matters not.Ask Vegas why they assign a 3 pt advantage to those playing at home - ya foggies
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Suburbia:Where they tear out the trees & then name streets after them.

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Re: Establishing an OOC Rivalry
« Reply #101 on: June 25, 2020, 03:45:05 PM »
I'd rather watch my Huskers BTH outta the Gators in Tempe than Denver

but, I'm pretty sure Coach Osborne would see the advantages of playing a Miami, Florida, FSU, Georgia, Auburn, Bama, or USC in Denver 
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Re: Establishing an OOC Rivalry
« Reply #102 on: June 25, 2020, 03:46:38 PM »
The tie was against Auburn in some sort of a post season game, back before they were referred to as "bowl games" (1917).
I think that was a special thing due to WWI.  The US declared war on the Central Powers (The German Empire, The Austro-Hungarian Empire, The Ottoman Empire) in April, 1917.  That fall Ohio State's last two games were:
  • A 0-0 tie with Auburn in Montgomery Alabama on Saturday, November 24, 1917
  • A 28-0 home win over Camp Sherman on Thursday, November 29, 1917 (Thanksgiving Day, I think)
Auburn had hosted Fort Sheridan earlier in the season.  


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Re: Establishing an OOC Rivalry
« Reply #103 on: June 25, 2020, 03:48:36 PM »
Even the Cap One bowl is not full, despite the attendance numbers.  They struggle to get fans down there.  I see a lot of empty seats every year.

Crowd noise is not a factor in an outdoor bowl game that isn't a major, and even then, it often isn't a big deal.


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Re: Establishing an OOC Rivalry
« Reply #104 on: June 25, 2020, 03:54:12 PM »
Had I not met the wife, I probably would have found 30 acres or so somewhere up in the hills and had a bunch of dogs for friends.
They don't mind if you miss a shower or break wind.Throw a dog and a woman in the trunk of your car take them for a ride and see what one is happy to see you when you pop the lid
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Re: Establishing an OOC Rivalry
« Reply #105 on: June 25, 2020, 03:55:44 PM »
My daughter's little mutt is my best friend.

I brought him a fresh T-bone last night.  It's just what buddies do.
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Re: Establishing an OOC Rivalry
« Reply #106 on: June 25, 2020, 03:55:54 PM »
She has a very sensative nose.

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Re: Establishing an OOC Rivalry
« Reply #107 on: June 25, 2020, 03:59:13 PM »
My daughter's little mutt is my best friend.

I brought him a fresh T-bone last night.  It's just what buddies do.
Hey Buddy - toss in a Yuengling and friends for life
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Re: Establishing an OOC Rivalry
« Reply #108 on: June 25, 2020, 04:28:12 PM »
I agree with @OrangeAfroMan to an extent.  For minor bowls the destination HAS TO be a draw.  VERY few fans are going to travel to a cold-weather city in December/January to watch their 6-6 team take on somebody else's 7-5 team.  However, the CFP games could be played in Antarctica and fans would be clamoring to go. 
Exactly.  Here on this very board, many of you are pulling for your school to get into this bowl over that bowl PRECISELY due to the city it will be held in.  


And by the way, the Big 8 champion all those years was invited to the Orange Bowl, they didn't have to accept it.  Did OU or Nebraska, even once, get offered to play Miami in the Orange Bowl or FSU in the Orange Bowl and say, "nah, we're tired of doing that, we'll play somewhere more fair."????  No.  

And on this very board, I've repeatedly been told how the Rose Bowl is held in such high esteem, it's even above the national championship game, or at least rivals it.  But was there any clamoring to turn down the offer to play in Pasadena?  Or move the game to a more neutral site?  Puh-lease!


Bitching about the locations of bowls in warm-weather climates is an after-the-fact excuse losers give.  Period.  
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Re: Establishing an OOC Rivalry
« Reply #109 on: June 25, 2020, 04:29:35 PM »
What order do these steps go in?

Be a slave to tradition.

Romanticize the tradition.

Bitch about the tradition.



I'd really like to know.
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Re: Establishing an OOC Rivalry
« Reply #110 on: June 25, 2020, 04:46:53 PM »
we all know how the tradition started, why it wasn't changed, how the world works

and you know that playing against a worthy opponent on their home field is an advantage and will change the win/loss record over time

have you factored this into the college football board game?  You're a stats guy
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Re: Establishing an OOC Rivalry
« Reply #111 on: June 25, 2020, 05:57:29 PM »
Traditionally, "Tradition" has been a Big Thing for some, less so for others, but as a tradition remains extant over time, it becomes even more of a tradition, among those who like traditions.


 

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