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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #1260 on: January 16, 2024, 06:52:08 AM »
Exhibit 10,469 against EV's.

Chicago-area Tesla charging stations lined with dead cars in freezing cold: 'A bunch of dead robots out here' (msn.com)
Chicago-area Tesla charging stations lined with dead cars in freezing cold: 'A bunch of dead robots out here' (msn.com)
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« Reply #1261 on: January 16, 2024, 08:50:16 AM »
hah, haven't heard anything about that here yet, but not many folks use the super stations.
Heck, there aren't many.
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One expert told the news outlet that cold weather can impact the ability of electric vehicles to charge properly.

"It’s not plug and go. You have to precondition the battery, meaning that you have to get the battery up to the optimal temperature to accept a fast charge," said Mark Bilek of the Chicago Auto Trade Association.

FOX Business has reached out to Tesla, but has not yet heard back.


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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #1262 on: January 17, 2024, 07:00:56 PM »
This is why they should have pushed hybrids.   You can slowly change battery-to-engine ratios (to an extent).  But not leave people in the cold.

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« Reply #1263 on: January 17, 2024, 11:04:54 PM »
battery warmers are very simple

they're just expensive

like winterizing the windmills in Texas - not enough payback for the few times they're needed with extreme weather

but, knowing all this......... they should warn end users and have a plan "B"
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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #1264 on: January 19, 2024, 06:56:26 PM »
Ford says it’s reducing production of the F-150 Lightning electric pickup vehicle as it adjusts to weaker-than-expected electric vehicle sales growth

Ford is cutting production of the F-150 Lightning electric pickup after weaker-than-expected electric vehicle sales growth.

While EV sales are growing in the U.S., the pace is falling well short of the industry’s ambitious timetable and many consumers are turning to hybrid vehicles instead.

Ford sold just over 24,000 Lightnings last year, up 55% from 2022. But dealers are reporting slower sales and rising inventories on the electric truck, which starts at just under $50,000.

Electric vehicle sales overall grew 47% to a record 1.19 million last year, according to Motorintelligence.com. The EV market share grew from 5.8% in 2022 to 7.6% last year. But EV sales growth slowed toward the end of the year. In December, they rose 34%.

Ford said that about 1,400 workers will be affected by the move to lower F-150 Lightning production, with the Rouge Electric Vehicle Center transitioning to one shift, effective April 1. Approximately 700 employees will transfer to Ford's Michigan Assembly Plant while other workers will be placed in roles at the Rouge Complex or other facilities in Southeast Michigan. Some employees are expected to take advantage of the Special Retirement Incentive Program agreed to in the 2023 Ford-UAW contract.

“We are taking advantage of our manufacturing flexibility to offer customers choices while balancing our growth and profitability,” Ford CEO Jim Farley said in a statement Friday.
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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #1265 on: January 20, 2024, 11:06:40 AM »
47% YoY unit sales growth and 31% YoY market share growth, both projected to got again in 2024. 

What a failure! :smiley_confused1:

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« Reply #1266 on: January 20, 2024, 11:29:21 AM »
Failure.

The F-150 Lightning drew oohs and aahs from the press when it was unveiled in May 2021. Yet the electric pickup has been plagued with defects that have required recalls. It sold a mere 24,165 Lightnings last year and lost roughly $36,000 on each EV in the third quarter.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/ford-f-150-lightning-production-electric-vehicles-biden-administration-1c3fc8d0?st=o41rdznplachc0i&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink
https://www.wsj.com/articles/ford-f-150-lightning-production-electric-vehicles-biden-administration-1c3fc8d0?st=o41rdznplachc0i&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink
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« Reply #1267 on: January 20, 2024, 01:04:16 PM »
47% YoY unit sales growth and 31% YoY market share growth, both projected to got again in 2024.

What a failure! :smiley_confused1:
according to Motorintelligence.com.
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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #1269 on: January 26, 2024, 06:34:31 AM »
And there is this math problem with EVs not charged at home.

Right now, I'm for mild hybrids broadly speaking.

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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #1270 on: January 26, 2024, 08:55:38 AM »
Florida Drivers Discover Hard Truth About EVs: They Eat Tires (jalopnik.com)

So why the fast wear? It’s a combination of lots of power that can be put down instantly and wild curb weights. But it also comes down to individual driving style, as Sanchez pointed out. “If you drive like grandma, the type of car shouldn’t make a difference,” Sanchez said.
What do tire companies have to say about all of this? They’re aware of the problem and are working on EV-specific solutions. Like Michelin who spoke to The Herald on what it’s up to:
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Michelin suggests getting the Primacy tire for electric vehicles, which they say offers an up to 7% increase in range. Michelin also launched “Self seal” which would self-repair punctures and cut back on some weight by not needing to keep a spare wheel in the back.




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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #1271 on: January 26, 2024, 09:20:26 AM »
What are the differences in plug-in hybrid and regular hybrid?
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« Reply #1272 on: January 26, 2024, 09:22:13 AM »
What are the differences in plug-in hybrid and regular hybrid?
You get 30-40 miles of initial range with the former on batteries alone.  They have larger batteries of course, and you can drive on electric "around town" usually.

Our hybrid gives you about 100 feet, and you can't plug it in.

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« Reply #1273 on: January 26, 2024, 10:14:24 AM »
Yeah, a lot of PHEV owners buy them knowing 90%+ of their driving habits won't require going off battery, but having the capability is nice for people who think they can't live with a full BEV due to range anxiety. 

Although I think they may be a sort of "gateway drug" to full BEV. A lot of the ones I've talked to with PHEV find that they're actually only filling up their gas tank 2-3 times a year because the electric range covers almost all of their driving. So they look at a car with 200-300 miles of electric range and don't get the same range anxiety as someone switching from ICEV. 

 

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