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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #1162 on: December 08, 2023, 06:37:27 PM »
gas at $2.50 here
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« Reply #1163 on: December 08, 2023, 06:42:58 PM »
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« Reply #1164 on: December 08, 2023, 07:23:01 PM »
2.55 in Cleveland another 45-50 cents in the Burbs
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« Reply #1165 on: December 08, 2023, 10:02:21 PM »
I could understand electricity becoming more expensive with the forced move towards green
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« Reply #1166 on: December 09, 2023, 05:08:13 AM »
We're not really moving to "green" very fast.  A lot of articles claim we are, but they often omit some critical reference figures.  They say "this will provide power for X number of houses".    And the grid still HAS to have backup power AND base load power from something.  And demand is very likely to grow.

We may find out that "green" only meets additional demand and the current demand stays largely with current sourcing.

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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #1167 on: December 12, 2023, 09:17:45 AM »

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« Reply #1169 on: December 13, 2023, 11:49:18 AM »
Just paid $2.74 for 91 Octane from Wawa. 87 was $2.19.
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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #1170 on: December 14, 2023, 08:20:27 AM »
2024 Chevy Blazer EV First Test: Not Fast, But Still an Electric Swagger Wagon (motortrend.com)

 The least expensive Blazer EV (for now) will be the 2LT AWD, which will start at $56,715. In RS-spec, all-wheel drive starts at $60,215 while the long-range rear-wheel-drive variant should clock in at $61,790 to start, and front-drivers will appear later. We expect the performance SS trim to come in around $66,000. Some variants will be eligible for the $7,500 federal tax credit


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« Reply #1171 on: December 14, 2023, 08:30:08 AM »
2024 Chevy Blazer EV First Test: Not Fast, But Still an Electric Swagger Wagon (motortrend.com)

The least expensive Blazer EV (for now) will be the 2LT AWD, which will start at $56,715. In RS-spec, all-wheel drive starts at $60,215 while the long-range rear-wheel-drive variant should clock in at $61,790 to start, and front-drivers will appear later. We expect the performance SS trim to come in around $66,000. Some variants will be eligible for the $7,500 federal tax credit


And therein lies the "rub", in addition to the other things.
Damn right there's a rub.

People who could/would never purchase an EV are funding those who will/are - and they don't need the money!! The ones who can't afford it support the ones who can.

It's a big rub, and only talked about by people with open eyes.
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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #1172 on: December 14, 2023, 08:34:00 AM »
I know the tax credit has a rather liberal income cap on it, I would have let it apply only to EVs costing less than an ICE equivalent, or under $45 K.

If I had one at all.  You can buy an ICE Blazer for under $50 K with all the features.

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« Reply #1173 on: December 14, 2023, 08:40:41 AM »
I know the tax credit has a rather liberal income cap on it, I would have let it apply only to EVs costing less than an ICE equivalent, or under $45 K.

If I had one at all.  You can buy an ICE Blazer for under $50 K with all the features.
"You" is who?

$50K is not an option for the vast majority of people.
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« Reply #1174 on: December 14, 2023, 08:44:18 AM »
One can purchsea loaded ICE Blazer under $50 K, which is right at what the average new car costs today.  

Even with the $7500, it does not compute, for me.  

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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #1175 on: December 14, 2023, 09:14:22 AM »
The Chevy Bolt is probably the closest EV to making sense for folks needing a small car, like a Corolla, but any small hybrid makes more sense, I think.

And the Bolt is being "discontinued" anyway, in current form.  The new one might be similar in features and price, maybe.

The other item not often noted is that car makers are losing money on EVs (aside from Tesla).  So they also are subsidizing these things to get acceptance.

 

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