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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #938 on: November 07, 2023, 12:10:23 AM »
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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #940 on: November 07, 2023, 09:25:44 AM »
The Ram 1500 Ramcharger will be a hybrid like a diesel locomotive | CNN Business
Makes a ton of sense for guys like @utee94 who might ordinarily be in the market for an electric vehicle for daily driving but can't afford the range hit while towing on the weekends. 

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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #941 on: November 07, 2023, 01:28:27 PM »
Utee and I have mused about a Diesel electric truck.  A Diesel can be designed to be very efficient around 2200 RPM and run steadily there to power a generator.

The electric motors would have ample torque and ALSO a very gradual ability when it comes to applying power, they can be very sensitive, which is one reason trains use them.  Trains don't want to overdo it and spin wheels.

Now you have the torque of an EV and the range of a Diesel without adding too much battery size and weight.

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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #942 on: November 08, 2023, 08:44:41 AM »
good luck with the marketing
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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #943 on: November 08, 2023, 08:47:34 AM »
Such a truck would have a niche market I suspect, at least at first.  But it sounds to me like a decent proposition for some.


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« Reply #944 on: November 08, 2023, 08:51:17 AM »
niche market = huge losses for the manufacturer
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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #945 on: November 08, 2023, 08:53:03 AM »
Generally speaking, yes, not in all cases though.  The EVs being pushed now are niche cars and the mfgs are mostly losing a ton on them, for now.

Tesla lost a ton early on too.

A good question is how fast EVs MAY become profitable more broadly.

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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #946 on: November 08, 2023, 08:57:43 AM »
I've been looking pretty hard at CUVs (like the Honda CR-V) because my wife clearly wants one.  My choice at this point is a Hyundau Tucson Hybrid (which I have not driven).  My daughter had a Tuscon regular vehicle which I rode in briefly, seemed OK.

These things are larger than I prefer and not as fun to drive as the GTI, but whatever.  The above gets good fuel economy on regular gas and probably is "OK" and $40K.  I'll try and put it off as long as I can.

My wife has now blown two tires on the GTI in town hitting something.  It's not nearly as bad as the Caddy was, but it's not ideal either.  I looked at EVs, no way the math works for us.  I'd probably seriously look at the BMW X1 but it has two apparent flaws I couldn't live with.  Maybe they get fixed, maybe not.

I've noticed a few more EVs in our parking garages here, a Volvo and a Subaru recently.

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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #948 on: November 12, 2023, 08:40:32 AM »
It will be interesting if Toyota can realy deliver on their new battery technology.  Short of that, I think we're at least a decade away from seeing a lot of folks buying a pure EV.  Famiilies with two vehicles might get one so Dad can go to work.  I expect urban delivery vans to go EV sooner.

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« Reply #949 on: November 12, 2023, 10:00:20 AM »
It will be interesting if Toyota can realy deliver on their new battery technology.  Short of that, I think we're at least a decade away from seeing a lot of folks buying a pure EV.  Famiilies with two vehicles might get one so Dad can go to work.  I expect urban delivery vans to go EV sooner.
I don't know what it's like in Atlanta, but I see a LOT of folks buying pure EVs out here in Cali... Can't swing a dead cat without hitting a Model 3. 

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« Reply #950 on: November 12, 2023, 10:03:49 AM »
much different cultures

EVs are for the left coast and Denver

other bastions of liberalism 
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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #951 on: November 12, 2023, 10:06:32 AM »
I don't know what it's like in Atlanta, but I see a LOT of folks buying pure EVs out here in Cali... Can't swing a dead cat without hitting a Model 3.
We have a few here of course, but gas is running around $2.70 right now.  That's a factor of course.  I've seen five pure EVs in our garage, out of maybe 200 vehicles total.  Two are new, a Volvo and a Subaru.  There are a couple more PHEVs.

 

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