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« Reply #896 on: August 23, 2023, 03:53:05 PM »
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« Reply #897 on: August 23, 2023, 03:55:41 PM »
Dumbass.
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« Reply #898 on: August 23, 2023, 03:56:43 PM »
what do you expect from a Tesla driver?
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« Reply #899 on: September 07, 2023, 11:09:29 AM »
Real-world figures | Hydrogen buses cost 2.3 times more to run per km than battery electric ones, says Italian study

The relative energy inefficiency of fuel-cell vehicles is primarily responsible for the difference, report explains

https://www.hydrogeninsight.com/transport/real-world-figures-hydrogen-buses-cost-2-3-times-more-to-run-per-km-than-battery-electric-ones-says-italian-study/2-1-1511785
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« Reply #900 on: September 07, 2023, 11:36:19 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on August 23, 2023, 03:56:43 PM
what do you expect from a Tesla driver?
I expect them to be pissed after their batteries start on fire after being submerged in salt water.
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« Reply #901 on: September 12, 2023, 01:25:29 PM »
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« Reply #902 on: September 17, 2023, 04:08:41 PM »
Toyota's EV battery future promises 500 miles of range by 2026 — and much more beyond - Autoblog
Toyota's EV battery future promises 500 miles of range by 2026 — and much more beyond - Autoblog

And according to its blue-sky battery “roadmap,” the Japanese giant sees coming in 2027-28 its first solid-state battery, which would offer 1,000 kilometers (about 620 miles) of range and take an 80% charge in 10 minutes.

Eventually, Toyota predicts, advanced cell technologies could extend an EV’s driving range to more than 746 miles (1,200 km), and, further down the line, to as much as 932 miles (1,500 km).

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« Reply #903 on: September 17, 2023, 07:22:49 PM »
EVs might be PRACTICABLE in a few years
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« Reply #904 on: October 03, 2023, 02:03:02 PM »
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« Reply #905 on: October 03, 2023, 02:34:44 PM »
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« Reply #906 on: October 03, 2023, 02:54:14 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on October 03, 2023, 02:34:44 PM
So will roads, bridges, parking lots, etc.

Just minor details.
None of which tend to be captured in the projected switching costs from ICE to EV.

I'm not suggesting that we shouldn't continue moving forward with such a switch, but I am asking for some honesty and transparency about what it's actually going to cost.

There Ain't Any Free Lunch and somebody is going to have to pay for it, one way or another.
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« Reply #907 on: October 03, 2023, 04:09:32 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on October 03, 2023, 02:54:14 PM
None of which tend to be captured in the projected switching costs from ICE to EV.

I'm not suggesting that we shouldn't continue moving forward with such a switch, but I am asking for some honesty and transparency about what it's actually going to cost.

There Ain't Any Free Lunch and somebody is going to have to pay for it, one way or another.
Do some digging on what it costs monetarily and energy-wise to build the batteries (and solar panels).

Do some digging on what kind of construction it takes to get a 300' tall wind turbine tower to a site. Farm roads don't cut it. The turning radius for those trailers is HUGE.

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« Reply #908 on: October 03, 2023, 04:25:35 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on October 03, 2023, 04:09:32 PM
Do some digging on what it costs monetarily and energy-wise to build the batteries (and solar panels).

Do some digging on what kind of construction it takes to get a 300' tall wind turbine tower to a site. Farm roads don't cut it. The turning radius for those trailers is HUGE.


Oh I'm well acquainted with the costs of batteries.  And lots of those analyses don't even factor in how many times the raw materials are moved around the world during the production of them.

And we have those wind turbines all over the state, I regularly pass convoys hauling those vanes along the highways.
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« Reply #909 on: October 03, 2023, 04:37:21 PM »
I've read in various spots that an EV won't be carbon-neutral for anywhere from 20-50K miles due to the energy required to make the batteries alone.

And how long do those batteries actually last?

And I ponder what the real motives are here.
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