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utee94

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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #658 on: April 13, 2023, 08:49:07 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on April 13, 2023, 08:32:23 AM
It's different and will take some time to feel normal but someday in the future it will be normal

I expect that someday in the future, individual driving on public roadways will be illegal and self-driving vehicles will be mandated by law.  I guess to those poor suckers born into it, it'll feel normal.

And a FEW people might be lucky enough to have uncles with country places, that no one knows about...
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« Reply #659 on: April 13, 2023, 08:59:08 AM »
My guess is autonomous will be required on freeways, maybe not secondaries as much.  And I can envision long trains of cars going along with little separation at high speeds.  I don't know about the induction notion.
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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #660 on: April 13, 2023, 09:10:09 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on April 12, 2023, 10:58:27 PM
But... I don't find 3-5 minute fill-ups every week or two to be inconvenient.  Do others really chafe at this?

It's possible I'm the exception, but that characterization really sounds more like a solution in search of a problem to me.
But, what if by charging at home is about half the cost of using gas?  Then the gas will seem like the worse option.  

Obviously, living in the hometown of Buc-Ees, I like dropping by the gas station more than a few times a week.  They do have EV chargers at Buc-Ees now, at least at the one in Bastrop.  
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« Reply #661 on: April 13, 2023, 09:13:04 AM »
Quote from: Gigem on April 13, 2023, 09:10:09 AM
But, what if by charging at home is about half the cost of using gas?  Then the gas will seem like the worse option. 

Obviously, living in the hometown of Buc-Ees, I like dropping by the gas station more than a few times a week.  They do have EV chargers at Buc-Ees now, at least at the one in Bastrop. 

Sure, eventually economics could drive the free market there WITHOUT any ham-fisted government interference.  I'd be all for that.

Within my lifetime, the EV technology will never be able to solve my towing problem, but I recognize that my own specific use case is a minority position.
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« Reply #662 on: April 13, 2023, 09:21:41 AM »
I am guessing towing might need fuel cells, which are a kind of EV.  I don't know how these semi's really can work, I've never seen independent testing of them.

Otherwise, towing might need that Diesel plug in hybrid concept.
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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #663 on: April 13, 2023, 09:30:07 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on April 13, 2023, 08:49:07 AM
I expect that someday in the future, individual driving on public roadways will be illegal and self-driving vehicles will be mandated by law.  I guess to those poor suckers born into it, it'll feel normal.

And a FEW people might be lucky enough to have uncles with country places, that no one knows about...
Agreed.  
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« Reply #664 on: April 13, 2023, 09:31:54 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on April 13, 2023, 09:13:04 AM
Sure, eventually economics could drive the free market there WITHOUT any ham-fisted government interference.  I'd be all for that.

Within my lifetime, the EV technology will never be able to solve my towing problem, but I recognize that my own specific use case is a minority position.
Totally agree with you, but I also think it doesn't have to solve every transportation problem to be successful.  I currently own 3 diesel trucks, and will soon be adding a 4th.  I also own three gas vehicles, and I will own an EV someday to fill a certain need.  
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« Reply #665 on: April 13, 2023, 09:43:22 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on April 12, 2023, 10:58:27 PM
But... I don't find 3-5 minute fill-ups every week or two to be inconvenient.  Do others really chafe at this?

It's possible I'm the exception, but that characterization really sounds more like a solution in search of a problem to me.

My wife does.  She HATES gassing up.  Especially in the winter months.  That was literally half the appeal of getting an EV to her.

For a couple of years there, she got pretty good at tricking me into gassing up for her.  "Honey, we need three more bags of mulch for the area by the garden, can you run down to Lowes and get some."  I have a sedan, so her Rav4 was the car to use to bring home larger items.  I get in the car, pull out of the driveway, and then "Ding", the low gas light flips on......
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« Reply #666 on: April 13, 2023, 10:07:48 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on April 13, 2023, 09:13:04 AM
Sure, eventually economics could drive the free market there WITHOUT any ham-fisted government interference.  I'd be all for that.

Within my lifetime, the EV technology will never be able to solve my towing problem, but I recognize that my own specific use case is a minority position.
We hope.
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« Reply #667 on: April 13, 2023, 11:09:03 AM »
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« Reply #668 on: April 13, 2023, 11:27:59 AM »
The proposed EPA standard for fleets is 82 g/mile CO2.  A gallon of gas is 8,887 g/co2 eq.  So, a compliant vehicle (not fleet) would need to get 108 mpg, which is within the realm of plug in hybrids (for smaller vehicles).  You might have to go full EV on larger vehicles to offset, but this doesn't drive every vehicle to full EV.

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« Reply #669 on: April 17, 2023, 05:54:43 AM »
Hydrogen and EVs could play a big role in trucking's future (cnbc.com)
Hydrogen and EVs could play a big role in trucking's future (cnbc.com)
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« Reply #670 on: April 17, 2023, 08:27:08 AM »
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« Reply #671 on: April 17, 2023, 08:45:21 AM »
Quote from: grillrat on April 13, 2023, 09:43:22 AM
My wife does.  She HATES gassing up.  Especially in the winter months.  That was literally half the appeal of getting an EV to her.

For a couple of years there, she got pretty good at tricking me into gassing up for her.  "Honey, we need three more bags of mulch for the area by the garden, can you run down to Lowes and get some."  I have a sedan, so her Rav4 was the car to use to bring home larger items.  I get in the car, pull out of the driveway, and then "Ding", the low gas light flips on......
Are you secretly married to my wife? :)
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