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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #504 on: January 03, 2023, 01:08:10 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on December 17, 2022, 10:02:58 AM
Major issues, today, some of which won't be readily solvable:

1.  Range, but getting better.
2.  Cost
3.  Recharging time, also getting better
4.  Towing range, not sure how this gets better
5.  Cold weather performance, same
6.  Weight
7.  Battery replacement costs
8.  Battery supply issues (raw materials etc.)



On #3:
I suggested swapping out batteries as being a possible alternative to charging them.  


I randomly just saw a video of Neil Degrasse-Tyson suggesting the same thing on Joe Rogan's podcast.  No, he's not the authority on such things, but it's neat that he agrees with me.
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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #505 on: January 03, 2023, 01:17:52 PM »



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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #506 on: January 03, 2023, 01:34:06 PM »
Think of an oil change setup, with shops stocking the most common batteries.  Machines swapping them out, so weight isn't an issue.

It's feasible, unless you let your distaste for the messenger of the idea cloud your judgement.
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« Reply #507 on: January 03, 2023, 01:51:20 PM »
I'm an electrical engineer.  I'm familiar with the concept, and the challenges.  I don't care at all where the idea is coming from, I have no "distaste" to cloud my judgment here.

How many stops does an average urban gas station get in a day?  200?  Imagine storing, installing, and re-stocking, 200 of those battery banks every day.  This is not a simple problem.
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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #508 on: January 03, 2023, 01:52:01 PM »
let the robots do it
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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #509 on: January 03, 2023, 01:52:47 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on January 03, 2023, 01:52:01 PM
let the robots do it
Sure. Who's going to pay for that massive change to infrastructure?
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« Reply #510 on: January 03, 2023, 01:53:56 PM »
the green energy dems will steal the money from electrical engineers like you!
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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #511 on: January 03, 2023, 01:56:44 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on January 03, 2023, 01:51:20 PM
I'm an electrical engineer.  I'm familiar with the concept, and the challenges.  I don't care at all where the idea is coming from, I have no "distaste" to cloud my judgment here.

How many stops does an average urban gas station get in a day?  200?  Imagine storing, installing, and re-stocking, 200 of those battery banks every day.  This is not a simple problem.
I'm thinking the biggest hurdle would be a shop's power supply.  I'm picturing racks of batteries filling opposing walls, all charging, as they've been swapped out from earlier customers' cars.  If they can make a jukebox pick the correct record and maneuver it to play, they can do the same with heavy-ass car batteries.

But yeah, that power supply is going to be substantial.
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« Reply #512 on: January 03, 2023, 01:58:08 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on January 03, 2023, 01:52:47 PM
Sure. Who's going to pay for that massive change to infrastructure?
The billion-dollar corporations that run everything and do whatever they have to do in order to produce perpetual, quarterly growth.
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« Reply #513 on: January 03, 2023, 02:00:29 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on January 03, 2023, 01:52:01 PM
let the robots do it
Why do I get the suspicion that you're picturing me picturing Optimus Prime in a reconfigured Jiffy-Lube switching out the battery beneath an '88 Chevy Nova?
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« Reply #514 on: January 03, 2023, 02:15:41 PM »
now, that's just a very disturbing picture

would have never popped into my head w/o you

had to google "Optimus Prime"
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« Reply #515 on: January 03, 2023, 02:16:14 PM »
the 88 chevy nova probably the most disturbing
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« Reply #516 on: January 03, 2023, 02:17:09 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on January 03, 2023, 01:56:44 PM
But yeah, that power supply is going to be substantial.
so, the entire parking lot and surrounding area is covered with solar panels
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« Reply #517 on: January 03, 2023, 09:18:46 PM »
Well probably, yes.  The parking lot would BE solar panels.  Or the lane where people wait in line could be charging their batteries.....some may just drive on through without a swap and/or that would help keep the swapped-out batteries from needing so much time to charge back up.
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The cool part about all of this is that it would actually work with ideas no one's even thought up yet.  
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