Coaching Buyouts and Contract Extensions Thread

[CWSooner]

I agree.  MSU wouldn't have Izzo right now had that been their standard back then.

But how many of those hires were within even the last 20(?) years.  The Oklahoma pair and Chip Kelly?

It's just not the path anymore.

Mike Leach at Texas Tech.
Depends on how you define "did well," perhaps.

[bayareabadger]

Mike Leach at Texas Tech.
Depends on how you define "did well," perhaps.

He won 66 percent of his TT games. He did well. 

[bayareabadger]

I agree.  MSU wouldn't have Izzo right now had that been their standard back then.

But how many of those hires were within even the last 20(?) years.  The Oklahoma pair and Chip Kelly?

It's just not the path anymore.

I kind of disagree, unless we count interim stuff before getting hired as previous experience. There are 20 P5 Top-25 teams. Here's the ones who had no previous HC experience before getting the jobs at their schools.

Day at OSU
Dabo at Clemson
Riley at OU
Smart at UGA
Whittingham at Utah
Helton at USC
Gundy at OK State

You have a few others in Franklin and Mullin who got first HC jobs at P5 schools, just not the ones they're at, plus a few others where their original HC experience wasn't particularly notable to their current hire (No one was saying Oregon's coach was hired based on his FAU resume, nor Ed O for his Ole Miss work, nor really Chryst at Pitt or Ferentz at Maine). 

[ELA]

I kind of disagree, unless we count interim stuff before getting hired as previous experience. There are 20 P5 Top-25 teams. Here's the ones who had no previous HC experience before getting the jobs at their schools.

Day at OSU
Dabo at Clemson
Riley at OU
Smart at UGA
Whittingham at Utah
Helton at USC
Gundy at OK State

You have a few others in Franklin and Mullin who got first HC jobs at P5 schools, just not the ones they're at, plus a few others where their original HC experience wasn't particularly notable to their current hire (No one was saying Oregon's coach was hired based on his FAU resume, nor Ed O for his Ole Miss work, nor really Chryst at Pitt or Ferentz at Maine).

Yeah, I meant more like where a legitimate coaching search is conducted, and an internal candidate is chosen.

Granted, how many coaches legitimately retire anymore?  They either retire young, then are rumored to return, or are fired.  Or even if they do retire, like Bowden, or Beamer, or shortly Dantonio, they would have been fired, if not for their past history at the school, because they did not leave the program in great shape.  So most of the time, you are making a coaching hire because of the mess your program is in, so you are unlikely to just promote from within, because they are likely part of the problem.

[Cincydawg]

Interesting point, very few coaches appear to retire these days, in earnest.  I am sure the average coaching tenure at a place has dropped sharply since ca. 1970.  A lot of coaches would do 25 years at one place back in the day, and then actually retire, or take the AD job.

I think Mack Brown will retire in 3-4 years, after unretiring.

[FearlessF]

if he's not fired before then

[FearlessF]

GREELEY, Colo. – Former Broncos wide receiver Ed McCaffrey has been named the head football coach at the University of Northern Colorado.

McCaffrey confirmed the news in an Instagram post on Thursday afternoon. He'll be making the jump to the college level from Valor Christian High School in Highlands Ranch, where he was the head coach for the last two seasons.


UNC, which competes in the NCAA Football Championship Subdivision, fired coach Earnest Collins this year after a 2-10 season. Collins went 6-5 in 2015 and 2016 but had no other winning seasons since taking the UNC job in 2011 and an overall record of 28-72.

McCaffrey will be introduced as the Bears' new coach at a press conference at 3 p.m. Friday on the UNC campus.


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Look out Harbaugh - Fast Eddie is gonna need a QB

[Brutus Buckeye]

BC seems like kind of a thankless job. The last guy took them to like 5 bowl games in 6 years, and that wasn't good enough? What exactly do they think that they are? They have no recruiting base and no history in a pro sports town. They are a geographic outlier in a conference that only has one school that is located anywhere near them. Are they supposed to average 8+ wins a year? How?

[CatsbyAZ]

BC seems like kind of a thankless job. The last guy took them to like 5 bowl games in 6 years, and that wasn't good enough?

Addazio went 7-6 just about every year. Is it culturally, or expectations-wise, any different than Pelini going 9-4 every year until Husker fans got tired of it? I guess every job turns into a thankless job if you’re batting purgatory every year. In BC’s case we learned their purgatory is 7-6. In Nebraska’s case it’s 9-4.

[CWSooner]

Addazio went 7-6 just about every year. Is it culturally, or expectations-wise, any different than Pelini going 9-4 every year until Husker fans got tired of it? I guess every job turns into a thankless job if you’re batting purgatory every year. In BC’s case we learned their purgatory is 7-6. In Nebraska’s case it’s 9-4.

I always thought that a Pelini who could have behaved like Tom Osborne would have created a lot less angst in Huskerland than the ever-angry Pelini whose mouth was always open and spittle was always flying out.  I always figured he had just eaten onions and his mouthwash wasn't cutting it as well.
Nobody likes a flaming jackass.  They'll tolerate him if he wins, though.  For awhile, anyway.
Conversely, representing the program in a classy way will often buy some benefit of the doubt.

[MrNubbz]

 They either retire young, then are rumored to return, or are fired.  Or even if they do retire, like Bowden, or Beamer, or shortly Dantonio, 

ISWYDT,shortly,HA!

[CatsbyAZ]

For as stately and genteel as Hayden Fry came across his coaching tree is populated with some quick-tempered, foul mouthed folk. Pelini, Mark Stoops, Mangino, Jim Leavitt. All committed Catholic boys too!

[Brutus Buckeye]

Pelini was awesome. Mangino too.

[FearlessF]

Pelini would have been fine with the right AD

Eichorst couldn't handle him

If the Big 12 hadn't put a second back on the clock in 2009 (it was the correct call) and if Pelini would have found a way to beat the Badgers a second time in 2012 in Indy ( I know it was a blowout) Pelini would still be there and Eichorst would have left earlier.