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Re: Chance of Winning the NC in 2021
« Reply #56 on: June 24, 2021, 11:02:00 AM »
Quote from: CatsbyAZ on June 24, 2021, 10:54:42 AM

So where was the REVOLT? The threats for a Knoxvillian organized overthrow of the athletic department? I would've kept Tom Herman because, after losing Sam Ehlinger and a good chunk of the Longhorns front, and facing a more top heavier Big 12, this was likely going to be a down season anyway. Covid allowed UT to keep Herman anyway and fire him after the expected down year while taking their time needed to set themselves up with a more dependable hire. Instead, Herman is rushed out the door. Sark is rushed in...on what deserved grounds?!?!? Sark is a known, style over substance quantity at this point, underwhelming given the talent advantages he recruited into Washington and USC. Player development under Sark is null. Drank himself out of LA. And why why why (!) is it a SIX year deal!?!? UT had all the leverage to lowball Sark and still land him! Forget beating OU, TCU is a tough enough hill to climb.

Can't say I disagree with you on any of this.  The AD made the decisions in all cases.  He'll either be made or broken by these decisions.

As an aside, you seem really upset about the administration of a school that isn't your own. Most people are happy to see Texas continue foundering.  
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Re: Chance of Winning the NC in 2021
« Reply #57 on: June 24, 2021, 08:39:46 PM »
May be an image of 1 person and text that says 'CFB COACHES UNDER THE MOST PRESSURE TO WIN THIS SEASON VIA JOSH PATE KIRBY SMART S CLAY HELTON M JIM HARBAUGH LSU ED ORGERON JAMES FRANKLIN 247SPORT'

Because the fans of ALL these programs expect to at least have a chance of winning the NC
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Re: Chance of Winning the NC in 2021
« Reply #58 on: June 25, 2021, 07:52:38 AM »
I dunno what the pressure chart means really.  Of course Smart is under pressure to win, but what if the team makes the playoff and loses a close one again?  He's not going to be fired unless somehow the team goes 6-6.    Every coach is under some pressure to 'win".  But I don't think those other fan groups realistically expect to win the NC this year, they HOPE they can contend for a spot and maybe win their conference.

The odds of winning an NC are below 50-50 for ANY program.  Let's say Bama Clem OSU all have odds of 1 in 4, that is plausible.  That leaves another 1 in 4 for "the field", which is mostly UGA and OU this season.

So maybe those two are at 1 in 8.  Not good odds, none of it.
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Re: Chance of Winning the NC in 2021
« Reply #59 on: June 25, 2021, 10:04:35 AM »
247Sports likes to stir the pot and make a living
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Re: Chance of Winning the NC in 2021
« Reply #60 on: June 25, 2021, 10:14:57 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on June 25, 2021, 10:04:35 AM
247Sports likes to stir the pot and make a living
I remember CFN "News" back in the day, they'd come out with, well, ridiculous rankings just to get clicks.

They all do it.
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Re: Chance of Winning the NC in 2021
« Reply #61 on: June 25, 2021, 10:27:29 AM »
of the list above, I'd say Harbaugh is under the most pressure
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Re: Chance of Winning the NC in 2021
« Reply #62 on: June 27, 2021, 11:54:10 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on June 24, 2021, 11:02:00 AM
Can't say I disagree with you on any of this.  The AD made the decisions in all cases.  He'll either be made or broken by these decisions.

As an aside, you seem really upset about the administration of a school that isn't your own. Most people are happy to see Texas continue foundering. 

My frustration is more of a disbelief as to how Texas, a school with all the money and attention in the world of college football, can mishandle itself for so many years. By comparison, Oklahoma, a school with much less money and market value, has for 5 of the past 6 decades fielded the better football team. 

Hiring Sark is another half-hearted addition to a longstanding series that exhausted itself a while ago. Final Fantasy? Fast and Furious? 

The AD should be fired right after Lincoln Riley runs Texas out of the stadium.
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Re: Chance of Winning the NC in 2021
« Reply #63 on: June 27, 2021, 12:03:45 PM »
Texas has recruited well, better then their performance on the field.

Maybe something else is important.

You could do the Tennessee thing and hire and fire over and over looking for gold.  Somewhere.  Oh wait.
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Re: Chance of Winning the NC in 2021
« Reply #64 on: June 27, 2021, 12:12:14 PM »
Quote from: CatsbyAZ on June 27, 2021, 11:54:10 AM
My frustration is more of a disbelief as to how Texas, a school with all the money and attention in the world of college football, can mishandle itself for so many years. By comparison, Oklahoma, a school with much less money and market value, has for 5 of the past 6 decades fielded the better football team.

Hiring Sark is another half-hearted addition to a longstanding series that exhausted itself a while ago. Final Fantasy? Fast and Furious?

The AD should be fired right after Lincoln Riley runs Texas out of the stadium.

Again, I can't really disagree with any of that.  Just find it odd that you seem so passionate about it.  
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Re: Chance of Winning the NC in 2021
« Reply #65 on: June 27, 2021, 12:18:40 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on June 27, 2021, 12:03:45 PM
Texas has recruited well, better then their performance on the field.

Maybe something else is important.

You could do the Tennessee thing and hire and fire over and over looking for gold.  Somewhere.  Oh wait.

I mean, it's not unique to Tennessee.  Alabama went through a long string of firings before they landed on Saban.  Pretty much all the other helmets have done similarly.  OU went through a string of losers before they got to Stoops, although they've definitely done well with the smooth transition to Riley.  Good for them, bad for us.

I'd have kept Tom Herman if I knew the eventual replacement were going to be Sarkisian.  Unfortunately nobody asked me for my input on the coaching decisions.

But I also don't think Texas should just accept mediocre-to-poor coaching and think that's all we deserve.  Alabama didn't accept that.  OU didn't accept that.  Why should Texas?
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Re: Chance of Winning the NC in 2021
« Reply #66 on: June 27, 2021, 12:41:32 PM »
Picking the Power Five dark-horse College Football Playoff contenders entering 2021

SEC - LSU
BIG TEN - MICHIGAN
ACC - MIAMI
BIG 12 - IOWA STATE
PAC-12 - ARIZONA STATE

https://247sports.com/college/nebraska/LongFormArticle/College-Football-Playoff-dark-horse-contenders-Michigan-Miami-Iowa-State-LSU-Arizona-State-Power-Five-166953628/#166953628_1

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Re: Chance of Winning the NC in 2021
« Reply #67 on: June 27, 2021, 01:19:22 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on June 25, 2021, 07:52:38 AM
I dunno what the pressure chart means really.  Of course Smart is under pressure to win, but what if the team makes the playoff and loses a close one again?  He's not going to be fired unless somehow the team goes 6-6.    Every coach is under some pressure to 'win".  
Strange for you to say this.  Forgot Richt already?
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Re: Chance of Winning the NC in 2021
« Reply #68 on: June 27, 2021, 02:12:04 PM »
Quote from: CatsbyAZ on June 27, 2021, 11:54:10 AM
My frustration is more of a disbelief as to how Texas, a school with all the money and attention in the world of college football, can mishandle itself for so many years. By comparison, Oklahoma, a school with much less money and market value, has for 5 of the past 6 decades fielded the better football team.

Hiring Sark is another half-hearted addition to a longstanding series that exhausted itself a while ago. Final Fantasy? Fast and Furious?

The AD should be fired right after Lincoln Riley runs Texas out of the stadium.
I think mishandling begets mishandling. It's a booster-led set up in some places. You fix that with the right coach and the right run of success.

They fired Herman because they were A. Mad at Tom Herman B. Thought they could get Urban. And when that didn't work, they were just stuck. The high-end coach crop this year is decidedly poor. But they can't not have a coach. 

Oklahoma is intersting because they got the right guy and he had a run of making either the right or good enough hires and then pivoting when they went south. He had Leach, Venables, Mangino, Kevin Wilson and Riley. Granted, they were in a good enough spot to get through some rough patches with various Stoops Bros on defense and Josh Heupel/Jay Norvell. 

Texas didn't even build a roster of possible successors. Shoot Auburn just hired a former Texas OC who they all but ran out. 
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Re: Chance of Winning the NC in 2021
« Reply #69 on: June 27, 2021, 06:43:10 PM »
The SEC West is going to be quite the battle in 2021. Alabama, the defending College Football Playoff national champion, have someone on its tail: Texas A&M.

College football expert Phil Steele expects the Aggies to make a run for the division title and challenge the empire that is Alabama and Nick Saban. Texas A&M’s lone loss last season was to Alabama in the regular season.

Joining the Paul Finebaum Show, Steele outlined why Texas A&M is the biggest challenger to Alabama in 2021 in the SEC West.

“I’m going with the Aggies,” Steele said. “Going over the team with Jimbo Fisher, the biggest question is the offensive line. They only have one returning starter but he feels this year’s offensive line is more athletic and bigger, and has got more upside than last year’s offensive line even had. I also like Haynes King at quarterback. I think he’s going to do a fine job there. They’ve got one of the best running back units in college football, dynamic defense. They’ve got nine starters back there. They do have to play LSU on the road and I think LSU is the next big challenger in the west. I see a big bounceback year for the Tigers. But I’m going with A&M second and LSU third.”


https://247sports.com/Article/Texas-AM-biggest-threat-Alabama-SEC-West-Phil-Steele-college-football-prediction-preview-Jimbo-Fisher-Nick-Saban-166942163/?fbclid=IwAR2OYn6w-2zGX4rBgxriCgI5vMPWBMux_WSu_GfZQRYuBA07J3p5hNbgzto
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