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Topic: CFB Realignment

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CWSooner

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Re: CFB Realignment
« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2021, 10:15:05 PM »
The map is interesting.


There's an error on the map.
Baylor is located in Waco, between Austin and Dallas on I-35, not between San Antonio and Matagorda Bay.
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Brutus Buckeye

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Re: CFB Realignment
« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2021, 11:35:36 PM »
His WV dot is on Marshall's campus. 

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Re: CFB Realignment
« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2021, 12:29:57 AM »
My thoughts are that the Big 8 added four schools that add a lot of value to the existing conference. 


  • UCF has an enrollment of 70,000. Is there another school this large in the USA? UCF will bring a lot of eyeballs to television sets now, and even more in the future.
  • Houston has a history of doing well in football and basketball. Remember Elgin Baylor? The city is the 3rd or 4th largest in the USA. Enrollment is 46,000.
  • BYU is little Notre Dame (because it has a built-in national following), but with 2-3x the enrollment (enrollment 33,000). It won a national championship within most of our memories.
  • Cincinnati has had good basketball since the Big O, and damned good football for being a Group of 5 school. Enrollment is 46,000.

After the three-conference alliance was formed, it was important for the Big 8 to reformulate quickly, and Bob Bowlsby did a good job in doing so.


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Re: CFB Realignment
« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2021, 12:51:40 AM »
Are you their PR director?  Sheesh.
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Re: CFB Realignment
« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2021, 01:10:27 AM »
Are you their PR director?  Sheesh.
These schools had no where to go. If you were the Big 8 conference commissioner (who I really do not care for), after Texas and Oklahoma announce their departure, and the Pac-12 and Big Ten announce they are forming an alliance, and were not adding members, what would you do?

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Re: CFB Realignment
« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2021, 07:59:03 AM »
The intent of my map was to show the states that now make up the Big 12. If I knew where a school was located, I was able to pinpoint.

For the others.. don't care.
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Re: CFB Realignment
« Reply #20 on: September 13, 2021, 02:21:37 PM »
Probably not as many ripple effects as usual. 

The AAC is down to 8 teams after losing these three teams and UConn. Since they no longer need 12 teams in order to hold a CCG, I predict that they only add two and stand pat at 10. 

If both teams come from CUSA, then they will be down to 12 from 14, and that's probably just fine with them. 

Worst case scenario, they take one from CUSA and one from the Sunbelt. CUSA would probably stand pat at 13, like the Mac did for a long time. The Sunbelt might add one to get back to ten, and they have plenty of options. They could bring back NMSU for example, or they could add Liberty, or some overachieving FCS team from the Southeast. 

That's about as crazy as it will get, unless something really unexpected happens. Like the American adding 8 teams to get to 16, or some such. 
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Re: CFB Realignment
« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2021, 02:47:12 PM »
Do you know the difference between the AAC and Conf USA?
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« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2021, 07:15:56 PM »
CUSA has always been a feeder conference for the AAC. 
Do you know the difference between the AAC and Conf USA?
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Yes, very observant. 

CUSA has indeed always been a feeder conference for the AAC/Big East. 


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Re: CFB Realignment
« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2021, 01:41:41 PM »
So the AAC is going to raid the Hell out of CUSA it would appear.


https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1450476502739456001?s=20


Normally CUSA would respond by raiding the Sunbelt, but it would appear that the shoe is now on the other foot. It is being reported that S Miss and Marshall are instead going to the Sunbelt.

If so, then CUSA is down to:

  • FIU
  • LA Tech
  • M Tennessee
  • Old Dominion
  • W Kentucky
  • UTEP

M Tennessee, FIU and W Kentucky of course came from the Sunbelt. 

I find it odd that Marshall would go to the Sunbelt instead of back to the MAC.

I doubt they would have left the MAC directly for the Sunbelt, and the Sunbelt today is a lot weaker than it was back then. So why go there now?
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Re: CFB Realignment
« Reply #24 on: October 21, 2021, 07:17:44 PM »
Breaking News:  Conf USA is changing its name to "Crap Salad."
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Re: CFB Realignment
« Reply #25 on: October 21, 2021, 09:11:39 PM »
Breaking News:  Conf USA is changing its name to "Crap Salad."
The Group of Five needs to reorganize into one collective, with 4 geographic "divisions".

They need to quit poaching from each other til the low one on the totem pole dissolves.  Otherwise, eventually, each one will be the low man.

Granted somehow the MAC just keeps on keeping on.  Very relatively unchanged for decades.

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Re: CFB Realignment
« Reply #26 on: October 21, 2021, 10:36:58 PM »
The MAC is the only G5 in the North, and the MWC is the only G5 out West. So they will be fine. 

AAC, CUSA and the Sunbelt are all in the Southeast. 

I'm not sure I'm buying Marshall and S Miss to the Sunbelt because the pecking order has always been that CUSA raids the Sunbelt after the AAC raids them. In fact three of the remaining schools in CUSA used to be in the Sunbelt in W Kentucky, M Tennessee and FIU, but the Sunbelt doesn't want any of them back? 
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Re: CFB Realignment
« Reply #27 on: October 21, 2021, 10:43:05 PM »
Cincy should've joined the B1G. Think it's absolute horseshit that Ohio State can have Ohio all to itself in the B1G- meanwhile Michigan has to share the state of Michigan with Sparty- a state that has 2 million less people than Ohio and probably not even half of the P5 high school football talent.

Michigan would be a hell of a lot better if Sparty wasn't around. They are sharing a state that has little to no real football talent with another major program. I say make it tougher on Ohio State and get Cincy in the B1G and let them be a pain in Ohio State's ass like Sparty is a pain in Michigan's.

 

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