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Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
« Reply #238 on: December 29, 2020, 11:17:17 AM »
Does ... does the playoff need more promotion?
That was my first thought, too.  And it probably doesn’t to guys like you and me and anyone who takes the time to post on a college football message board.  But to your more casual “who’s in the CFB playoff this year” fan maybe that’s a valid point.  I know I’m guilty of sometimes thinking everyone pays as attention to college football as I do and then you get in a conversation with someone knows Les Miles is no longer at LSU but doesn’t know what happened to him.  So, it might be something worth considering for those type fans.

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« Reply #239 on: December 29, 2020, 01:11:13 PM »
So everyone's rooting for OSU2 and Colorado tonight, no? 
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Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
« Reply #240 on: December 29, 2020, 01:13:28 PM »
rooting for the Big 12 today

money on Okie state and Texas

really not a fan of the Canes or Ralphie


You are rooting SWC over Big 8? 

You need to have your black shirt revoked. 
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Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
« Reply #241 on: December 29, 2020, 01:27:39 PM »
Okie st is Big 8

and nobody likes Ralphie

besides, I need to cover the wager
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Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
« Reply #242 on: December 29, 2020, 04:21:55 PM »
I’m a child of the 80’s.  This year’s matchup is basically like every Cotton Bowl when I was growing up.  Two very good top ten teams that aren’t playing for a national title.
At least twice during the 1960s, the MNC came out of the Cotton Bowl.
One of the dominoes that had to fall for the '75 Sooners to be playing for the MNC in the Orange Bowl vs. Michigan was 10-1 Texas A&M losing to 7-4 USC in the Cotton Bowl earlier that day.
Texas lost the 1984 MNC by losing 10-9 to Georgia in the Cotton Bowl.  And I'm sure I'm omitting some other examples.
So, once upon a time it was a big bowl.  I always thought of it as #4 of the four big bowls--the others being Rose, Orange, and Sugar--but maybe that's because the Big 8 champ never went there.  And maybe also because Dallas at New Year's is not a glamorous or enchanting vacation destination.
Of course, the Rose Bowl, where the Big 8 champ also never went, was #1 as the Granddaddy of 'em all.
Now it's one of the NY6, so every three years it gets to host a "meaningful" game.
Some Florida fans are saying that the Gators will get stomped with all their top receivers sitting it out.  Others are saying that they shouldn't even play the game, because it's irrelevant.
Which gets me back to my gripe about the CFP.
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« Reply #243 on: December 29, 2020, 04:28:01 PM »
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MrNubbz: Correct,I think the Fiesta has sort of nudged it to 2 nd tier.
When the BCS began, and the four bowls were chosen to be part of the rotation, the Fiesta put in a higher/better bid (and/or paid bigger bribes) and the Cotton was left on the outside.  Before that, the Fiesta Bowl didn't really have a claim to anything other than having been the site of undefeated BYU beating 6-win Michigan for the extremely mythical national championship.
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« Reply #244 on: December 29, 2020, 04:28:48 PM »
I'm thinking it will be divided into 4 or maybe 6 burgers.
Back in my 20's I attended a backyard grill party.  I threw a 2 lb package of ground beef on the grill as a burger.  Didn't slice the raw white onion, just ate it like an apple along with the rare burger with some chips.  No bun needed.
But when you became a man, you put away childish things.
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« Reply #245 on: December 29, 2020, 04:30:31 PM »
UGA has I think 9 players opting out, mostly starters.

I agree there were four major bowls, now there are six.  UGA has never been to the Fiesta so to me it seems contrived.  The Peach shows you can throw money at it.

The Peach Bowl was almost folded ca. 1976 or so.  

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« Reply #246 on: December 29, 2020, 04:49:14 PM »
When the BCS began, and the four bowls were chosen to be part of the rotation, the Fiesta put in a higher/better bid (and/or paid bigger bribes) and the Cotton was left on the outside.  Before that, the Fiesta Bowl didn't really have a claim to anything other than having been the site of undefeated BYU beating 6-win Michigan for the extremely mythical national championship.
Not to quibble, but that happened in the Holiday Bowl.

The Fiesta was started as a bowl game for ASU and UA to play in, while they were still in the WAC. It has quite a history.


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« Reply #247 on: December 29, 2020, 04:57:12 PM »
The Fiesta was always aggressive.   One of the first to adopt a title sponsor.  Barged into NYD, at first with a less attractive kickoff time but they got NBCs attention.  Really waved around the checkbook and filled a void by wooing the Independent teams as well.   Their move to pull in Miami and Penn St. really made a statement.  To me that's the blow the Cotton Bowl couldn't recover from and of course the demise of SWC

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« Reply #248 on: December 29, 2020, 06:24:40 PM »
At least twice during the 1960s, the MNC came out of the Cotton Bowl.
One of the dominoes that had to fall for the '75 Sooners to be playing for the MNC in the Orange Bowl vs. Michigan was 10-1 Texas A&M losing to 7-4 USC in the Cotton Bowl earlier that day.
Texas lost the 1984 MNC by losing 10-9 to Georgia in the Cotton Bowl.  And I'm sure I'm omitting some other examples.
So, once upon a time it was a big bowl.  I always thought of it as #4 of the four big bowls--the others being Rose, Orange, and Sugar--but maybe that's because the Big 8 champ never went there.  And maybe also because Dallas at New Year's is not a glamorous or enchanting vacation destination.
Of course, the Rose Bowl, where the Big 8 champ also never went, was #1 as the Granddaddy of 'em all.
Now it's one of the NY6, so every three years it gets to host a "meaningful" game.
Some Florida fans are saying that the Gators will get stomped with all their top receivers sitting it out.  Others are saying that they shouldn't even play the game, because it's irrelevant.
Which gets me back to my gripe about the CFP.
It’s still a big bowl game. It still gets better matchups than most bowls but doesn’t figure into the NC picture most years. That’s the same as it ever was.

I think the CFP gets the blame for these guys sitting out when I think it is the evolution of the selfish athlete.  You didn’t used to see guys transferring at the drop of a hat either.  Now they do. We could go back to old bowl/poll model tomorrow and I think moving forward you would still see guys sitting out.

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« Reply #249 on: December 29, 2020, 06:49:18 PM »
Ouch - D'eriq King looks like he may have torn up his knee. Always rough to see that in bowl games

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« Reply #250 on: December 29, 2020, 07:53:30 PM »
Meh, the refs just wiped off a 2 point conversion from Miami that there wasn’t enough evidence to do so.  No way you could unequivocally tell he was down before the ball crossed. 21-19 Okie Lite.

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« Reply #251 on: December 29, 2020, 07:59:31 PM »
The Fiesta was always aggressive.  One of the first to adopt a title sponsor.  Barged into NYD, at first with a less attractive kickoff time but they got NBCs attention.  Really waved around the checkbook and filled a void by wooing the Independent teams as well.  Their move to pull in Miami and Penn St. really made a statement.  To me that's the blow the Cotton Bowl couldn't recover from and of course the demise of SWC
To be fair, the sponsor was perfect.  They're absurd and out of control now, but that was a perfect marriage.
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