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FearlessF

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Re: NYD six bowls
« Reply #42 on: December 03, 2017, 04:44:38 PM »
Quote from: ELA on December 03, 2017, 04:38:08 PM
Because?  What is the reward?
spitting in your rival's eye
that should be worth a TON!
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Re: NYD six bowls
« Reply #43 on: December 03, 2017, 04:45:43 PM »
Quote from: ELA on December 03, 2017, 04:41:00 PM
Don't blame him.  "Best regular season" is a total farse.  It's literally the least relevant regular season, because it's the only one where the postseason actively ignores the results of the regular season.
If the NFL had the "best regular season" the sub .500 Packers and Cowboys would already have clinched a playoff spot.
Huh? What?
The NFL has an actual post-season with a playoff where you have to win your division to get in. There is no subjectivity to that playoff system at all. It's objective.
Win your division and you are in. Have the best record and win all the tie-breakers and you get a wild-card spot.
College football does not have a true post-season. It never has.
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Re: NYD six bowls
« Reply #44 on: December 03, 2017, 04:46:34 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on December 03, 2017, 04:41:37 PM
time and channel. why do you think they picked Michigan? All the bowls care about are tv ratings and dollars. Not the match ups.


Dantonio says the right thing...because it is the right thing. Do you think he cares about playing in the Holiday bowl or the Outback bowl or the Applebees bowl or the Taco Bell Bowl or do you think he cares about beating Michigan? Pretty obvious to me.
true and true
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Re: NYD six bowls
« Reply #45 on: December 03, 2017, 04:53:09 PM »
by the way, in case people forget, in 1999 when LSU hired Saban, they offered him $1.2+ million a year which could balloon up to north of $1.5 million with incentives- incentives he ultimately matched.

At that time only Bowden and Spurrier were making in the neighborhood of $1 million a year. Saban was making like $600+K per year at Michigan State. LSU effectively doubled his salary off the bat and promised him even more if he hit those incentives. MSU was never going to match that contract in 1999.
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Re: NYD six bowls
« Reply #46 on: December 03, 2017, 05:03:24 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on December 03, 2017, 04:45:43 PM
Huh? What?
The NFL has an actual post-season with a playoff where you have to win your division to get in. There is no subjectivity to that playoff system at all. It's objective.
Win your division and you are in. Have the best record and win all the tie-breakers and you get a wild-card spot.
College football does not have a true post-season. It never has.
Which is why best regular season is a farse.  If your postseason ignores your regular season, your regular season, your regular season is irrelevant.
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Re: NYD six bowls
« Reply #47 on: December 03, 2017, 05:04:38 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on December 03, 2017, 04:46:34 PM
true and true
Nobody has any doubt as to why UM jumped two teams in bowl selection.  Doesn't make it any less shitty.
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Re: NYD six bowls
« Reply #48 on: December 03, 2017, 05:05:31 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on December 03, 2017, 04:44:38 PM
spitting in your rival's eye
that should be worth a TON!
UM fans know what's what, unless they've been asleep for a decade.
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Re: NYD six bowls
« Reply #49 on: December 03, 2017, 05:16:37 PM »
Quote from: ELA on December 03, 2017, 05:04:38 PM
Nobody has any doubt as to why UM jumped two teams in bowl selection.  Doesn't make it any less crapty.
it may take 3 or 4 decades, but this is the reason to concentrate on beating your rival
and enjoying rubbing their nose in it 
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Re: NYD six bowls
« Reply #50 on: December 03, 2017, 05:22:50 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on December 03, 2017, 04:22:47 PM
the Badger fans should show up for a couple reasons

new very warm destination

support a record breaking team

if they don't show up, that's on them

I could be wrong. This would the second time if I am. There have been many second times, by the way.

All I know is that there are a shitload of Alumni out West who would have loved to make a short drive to Phoenix for that game. There are very few in Florida.

We will be landing at ORD at 5PM that day from a week in LA. I'm glad I'll get to watch it at least. Had they been in the Fiesta, I'd have extended the trip and gone to the game, flying home from PHX on NYE as opposed to LAX.
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Re: NYD six bowls
« Reply #51 on: December 03, 2017, 05:25:54 PM »
Brandon Peters has been cleared to practice. He's A-OK now.

S&P+ favors Michigan by 9 over South Carolina.

Vegas line already opens favoring South Carolina by 8.5.  

I rarely bet, but man that seems to good to pass up. Peters will be back at QB, South Carolina played in a very weak SEC East, lost to Kentucky, and has even worse ranked offensive rankings in the S&P+ than Michigan. I don't think South Carolina will win by more than a TD if they even win at all that is.
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Re: NYD six bowls
« Reply #52 on: December 03, 2017, 05:27:07 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on December 03, 2017, 04:43:30 PM
No.
Saban left MSU because LSU was offering 1,000,000+ reasons. They gave him almost unheard of money at the time and made him one of the 2 or 3  highest paid coaches in college football at the time.
That's why he left. People can have revisionist history if they like though.
My good friend.. Mr. Saban said it himself. He left to get out of the Big Blue shadow. LSU just happened to be the school with the $$ at the time. This is among the many things he has said over the years.

Another one of my favorites is when the CFP was looking at having playoff games in Big Ten country.

He said it wouldn't be fair because he wouldn't want his players to have to wear gloves. I shit you not.
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Re: NYD six bowls
« Reply #53 on: December 03, 2017, 05:34:20 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on December 03, 2017, 05:27:07 PM
My good friend.. Mr. Saban said it himself. He left to get out of the Big Blue shadow. LSU just happened to be the school with the $$ at the time. This is among the many things he has said over the years.

Another one of my favorites is when the CFP was looking at having playoff games in Big Ten country.

He said it wouldn't be fair because he wouldn't want his players to have to wear gloves. I crap you not.
Mr. Saban says a lot of things. We know he's a duplicitous little weasel.
I'm sure he left just because of being in Michigan's shadow...and not because he was offered a truck load of money. If MSU offered him more money than what LSU did, he'd have stayed there.
He took the Dolphins job because they made him the 2nd highest paid coach in the NFL going into 2005 behind only Belichik, at $4.5 million a year. He was struggling in the NFL and not liking his job and the NFL, and going into 2007 Alabama offered to make him the highest paid coach in college football history (at the time) at $4 million a year so he took the job.

Alabama has kept giving him fat pay increases to stay there. His compensation this year? $11+ million.
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Re: NYD six bowls
« Reply #54 on: December 03, 2017, 05:38:07 PM »
and by the way- there's a possibility Saban could've been at Michigan in 2008 after Carr retired had Rich Rodriguez not turned Alabama down. That job was his. He had the contract in hand ready to sign, and Rich turned it down. Only to take the Michigan job the next year. Bastage.
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Re: NYD six bowls
« Reply #55 on: December 03, 2017, 05:49:10 PM »
Quote from: ELA on December 03, 2017, 03:15:53 PM
Same MICHIGAN beat writer


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my wife grew up with Nick... good guy!  pretty decent snow boarder, too.... :72:
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