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utee94

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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #756 on: January 03, 2019, 11:52:22 PM »
My definition is inadequate to you.  I'm not sure why you're wanting me to lump in a bunch of teams that don't fit the criteria of the oddity I've observed in my "overly narrow" scope.  THAT would be inaccurate.  THAT would be dishonest.  Artificially inflating a sample size of 20 with an additional 50 data points in order to appease utee94 would be inadequate and inaccurate.  
It's not just me that's rejecting your oddly limited definition of emotionally impacted teams, when you're attempting to prove that emotional impact is a major factor.  Look at the threads.  I'm hardly the only one rejecting your definitions and assertions.

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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #757 on: January 03, 2019, 11:53:23 PM »
You're unwilling to acknowledge the emotional difference between going 11-1 and losing in September and going 11-1 and your only loss occurring in your 12th game.  



I can't help you.
You're choosing to be intellectually dishonest about the emotional letdowns of college athletes.  I can't help you.

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« Reply #758 on: January 03, 2019, 11:55:51 PM »
It's not just me that's rejecting your oddly limited definition of emotionally impacted teams, when you're attempting to prove that emotional impact is a major factor.  Loom at the threads.  I'm hardly the only one rejecting your definitions and assertions.
A bunch of "nuh uh"s and "I doubt it"s aren't really going to sway me, lol.  
A 12-15 record by a bunch of teams with an average win% of well over .900, to me, is noteworthy.  Instead of shitting all over my hypothesis, why don't you do the research on YOUR set of teams and see what comes out?
You know, DO something.
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« Reply #759 on: January 03, 2019, 11:56:26 PM »
You're choosing to be intellectually dishonest about the emotional letdowns of college athletes.  I can't help you.
You type this because I'm being too narrow in my scope?  The hell?



OAM, you're being too specifc, damn you!  Damn you to hell!
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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #760 on: January 03, 2019, 11:58:08 PM »
A bunch of "nuh uh"s and "I doubt it"s aren't really going to sway me, lol.  
A 12-15 record by a bunch of teams with an average win% of well over .900, to me, is noteworthy.  Instead of shitting all over my hypothesis, why don't you do the research on YOUR set of teams and see what comes out?
You know, DO something.
You're the one attempting to prove your hypothesis.  You have yet to do so.  Why are you asking me to do your job for you?
Also, please feel free to limit your contentions to the thread you created to harbor them.  That was a good idea and I applaud it.  No need to clutter up THIS thread by repeating the same stuff being discussed on the thread you created specifically for it.

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« Reply #761 on: January 05, 2019, 05:42:06 PM »

NDSU raked in another Fcs NC. 



That's like six of the last seven, or some such. 

1919, 20, 21, 28, 29, 31, 34, 35, 36, 37, 42, 44
WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
2001, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19

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« Reply #762 on: January 05, 2019, 06:24:19 PM »
 Will be interesting to see if another coaching change slows that dynasty at all. The last one didn’t, but who knows? 

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« Reply #763 on: January 05, 2019, 06:24:25 PM »
Northern Alabama?
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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #764 on: January 07, 2019, 10:29:51 AM »
I think that tonight's game is big in terms of how Clemson will be viewed when we look back at this era in say 20 years.  

So far in the CFP era (5 years, 2014-2018) the Tide have made the playoff every year and only ever lost TWO CFP games:
  • 2014 Bama lost in the semi-final to Ohio State, Ohio State won the NC.  Clemson was not in the CFP.  
  • 2015 Bama won the whole thing beating Clemson in the NC.  
  • 2016 Bama lost in the NC to Clemson.  
  • 2017 Bama won the whole thing beating Clemson in the semi-final.  
  • 2018 Either Bama or Clemson will win the NC by beating the other in the NC.  

In CFP game Bama leads Clemson 2-1.  If Clemson wins tonight then that moves to even and Clemson joins Bama as one of two MAJOR powers of this era.  If the Tide win then Clemson hasn't done much more than Ohio State (knocked off Bama once and won one NC).  Also, over the past two years you can argue that Bama's biggest contender is UGA not Clemson especially if the Tide run the Tigers out of Levi's Stadium tonight.  

Overall, Bama is 14-3 against Clemson.  The Tigers won the first two meetings (both neutral site @847badgerfan will be glad to know, LoL) then Bama reeled off 13 straight from 1909-2016 before Clemson's NC win in 2017 (2016 season).  Then Bama won again last year.   

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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #765 on: January 07, 2019, 11:10:18 AM »
What will (or should) the final rankings be?

I don't realistically think that Ohio State can get into the top-4.  In theory there might be an argument to rank them ahead of 2-loss Oklahoma on the basis of 2-losses or ahead of ND on the basis of ND not being competitive against Clemson but there is a REALLY strong counter-argument to either of those:
  • Vis-a-vis OU:  Yes, the Sooners have two losses but one was by 3 points to a Texas team that will finish in the top-10 and the other was by 11 points to an Alabama team that will finish either #1 or #2.  Those are about as "good" of losses as one could imagine while Ohio State's loss was by 29 points to a team that finished below .500.  
  • Vis-a-vis ND:  Basically the same problem for tOSU.  Sure, the Irish were not competitive in their 27 point loss to Clemson and you can even point out that their loss was "worse" because the stats were as lopsided as the score where they weren't in tOSU's loss but the problem for Ohio State is that the Buckeye's opponent wasn't even in the same universe.  

That said, Ohio State is a complete lock for #5 because the #6 (UGA), #7 (UCF), #8 (M), and #9 (Washington) teams in the last AP Poll all lost in their bowl games.  So here is what I think it will be:
  • Bama/Clemson winner
  • Bama/Clemson loser
  • Oklahoma on the basis of being competitive with Bama/Clemson unlike:
  • Notre Dame
  • Ohio State
  • Florida
  • LSU
  • Texas
  • Georgia
  • Washington
  • Washington State
  • Michigan
  • UCF
  • Kentucky
  • Syracuse

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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #766 on: January 07, 2019, 05:57:14 PM »
The utter lack of 2-loss teams this year is so weird.  
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« Reply #767 on: January 07, 2019, 08:07:43 PM »
Actually going to try and watch some of this tonight. Still feels so anticlimactic being on Monday night, but here we are

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« Reply #768 on: January 07, 2019, 08:09:06 PM »
I just played the matchup on my cards & dice game....
48 Alabama
21 Clemson

Tide got up 31-0 at halftime, including a pick-6.  Then Jacobs ran the 2nd half kickoff back 100 yards.  Clemson fought back, but too little, too late.
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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #769 on: January 07, 2019, 08:10:24 PM »
I just played the matchup on my cards & dice game....
48 Alabama
21 Clemson



Oof, I hope not. These teams are both really good, hoping for a classic

 

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