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SFBadger96

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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #742 on: January 03, 2019, 05:21:20 PM »
Santa Clara is chilly right now. Not Wisconsin chilly, but definitely bowl game chilly.
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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #743 on: January 03, 2019, 05:29:04 PM »
Quote from: ELA on January 03, 2019, 03:02:34 PM
I heard flights are the part stopping most people.
cheapest i've seen is ~$1300/person. can get cheaper flights if you stay a night or 2, but then the hotels eat up the 'savings' and you're right back at ~$12-1500.
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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #744 on: January 03, 2019, 05:33:50 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on January 03, 2019, 03:06:32 PM
I wish he would have it back up, but that's not the case. Yet. Hopefully this offseason he can do it.
As for the question, Bama probably has the record. It has played 4 in many years leading up to this one, including this one.
i imagine bama is tied with uga for most. each have had 4 recently. uga (wlocp, seccg, rose, cfp title game) had 4 last year, bama the 2 years prior and again this year. (early season game, seccg, semi, title game)

uga had 4 before the cfp in 2011 (atlanta kickoff classic, wlocp, seccg, bowl game). they also played in another ko classic in '16, but didn't make the seccg or cfp so only had 3.

ou/texas will join them if/when they make the cfp title game. uf as well.

what are the other annual neutral rivalries?
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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #745 on: January 03, 2019, 06:42:05 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on January 03, 2019, 10:22:56 AM
I think the 2 semi's they have now should be played on home sites. 
Ya went over all this in the past.I'm decidedly against expansion for that reason fans bases can't be expected to be deadheads.Airline,hotel,ticket,uber/taxi fares would break everybody but the 1%ers.Only problem visiting fans/programs would bitch at the home field.Just like the ones do now who don't make the Play off cut
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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #746 on: January 03, 2019, 06:44:28 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on January 03, 2019, 04:44:59 PM
I'll be in Cabo for 8 days starting Saturday. I'm pretty sure that's a better destination than Santa Clara right now. I'm also pretty sure I won't be watching football.
Hey didn't you just take some pricey Euro road trip - Bastage
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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #747 on: January 03, 2019, 07:38:55 PM »
If one of the Washington, Oregon, California, or Arizona schools in the Pac-12 were playing, they would have no problem filling the place with willing fans. Alas, that was not to be. Heck, if any new school were involved, that would probably be the case. But to have the third championship game between these two teams in the past four years at a location really far from their homes (and the fourth year in a row that they play each other in some game in the CFP)? That's a recipe for low ticket sales. This is more the fault of Clemson and Alabama than it is of the championship game organizers.
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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #748 on: January 03, 2019, 07:49:05 PM »
Quote from: SFBadger96 on January 03, 2019, 07:38:55 PM
If one of the Washington, Oregon, California, or Arizona schools in the Pac-12 were playing, they would have no problem filling the place with willing fans. Alas, that was not to be. Heck, if any new school were involved, that would probably be the case. But to have the third championship game between these two teams in the past four years at a location really far from their homes (and the fourth year in a row that they play each other in some game in the CFP)? That's a recipe for low ticket sales. This is more the fault of Clemson and Alabama than it is of the championship game organizers.
I half agree. 
Levi Stadium is still in a bad spot, in a part of that area that's not close to much. Flights are still at four figures, and hotels are sort of a mess.
I loathe LA, but at least you can attack that a lot of different ways. Northern San Jose is sort of a mess. 
Lets put it this way. I bet if this was the same situation, but the game was in the Rose Bowl, or heck, wherever the Rams play, it would mostly be fine. 
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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #749 on: January 03, 2019, 07:51:06 PM »
Quote from: rolltidefan on January 03, 2019, 05:29:04 PM
cheapest i've seen is ~$1300/person. can get cheaper flights if you stay a night or 2, but then the hotels eat up the 'savings' and you're right back at ~$12-1500.
I wonder if more people had tried Sacramento. You save about $500 or so, I think.
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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #750 on: January 03, 2019, 08:34:08 PM »
I feel like I called this.  
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« Reply #751 on: January 03, 2019, 08:35:00 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on January 03, 2019, 07:55:26 AM
Just an excuse for poor coaching.

Same as when a team falls short in a near upset of OSU, then gets hammered by Indiana the following week and they say "that team let OSU beat 'em twice"
That's also a thing, but a separate thing.
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« Reply #752 on: January 03, 2019, 08:36:53 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on January 03, 2019, 08:51:21 AM
Completely agree, and I addressed this in the new thread OAM created, dedicated to the alleged "let-down."  In short, dismissing all of those teams renders the hypothesis invalid.

Wrong, the timing of the loss is the whole deal, that's the point.  That's the observation I'd had.  You can dismiss that, but then you're missing the point.
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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #753 on: January 03, 2019, 11:33:30 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on January 03, 2019, 08:36:53 PM
Wrong, the timing of the loss is the whole deal, that's the point.  That's the observation I'd had.  You can dismiss that, but then you're missing the point.
The letdown is emotional.  Your overly narrow definition is inadequate and inaccurate.  If you don't understand that, then you don't even understand the very point you're attempting to make.
I'm willing to work with you, I'm willing to entertain your idea.  But your starting point is so very wrong, that unless you fix it, it's meaningless and irrelevant.
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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #754 on: January 03, 2019, 11:47:53 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on January 03, 2019, 11:33:30 PM
The letdown is emotional.  Your overly narrow definition is inadequate and inaccurate.  If you don't understand that, then you don't even understand the very point you're attempting to make.
I'm willing to work with you, I'm willing to entertain your idea.  But your starting point is so very wrong, that unless you fix it, it's meaningless and irrelevant.

My definition is inadequate to you.  I'm not sure why you're wanting me to lump in a bunch of teams that don't fit the criteria of the oddity I've observed in my "overly narrow" scope.  THAT would be inaccurate.  THAT would be dishonest.  Artificially inflating a sample size of 20 with an additional 50 data points in order to appease utee94 would be inadequate and inaccurate.  
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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #755 on: January 03, 2019, 11:49:45 PM »
You're unwilling to acknowledge the emotional difference between going 11-1 and losing in September and going 11-1 and your only loss occurring in your 12th game.  



I can't help you.
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