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Topic: Bleacher Report says 12 team CFP gaining momentum

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MaximumSam

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Re: Bleacher Report says 12 team CFP gaining momentum
« Reply #112 on: May 03, 2021, 07:39:06 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on May 03, 2021, 07:20:11 PM
You typing this makes me think you literally haven't read anything in the thread.
I've read plenty and you simply can't get around the fact that keeping G5 teams out of the playoffs means those games just don't matter as much. You have proclaimed that you want the regular season to matter, but you also don't want to matter for half the teams.  I say, make it matter for all the teams.
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Re: Bleacher Report says 12 team CFP gaining momentum
« Reply #113 on: May 03, 2021, 07:40:11 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on May 03, 2021, 07:22:57 PM
Let's push Purdue to join the MAC and Arizona State to join the Sun Belt! 
Do it!
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Re: Bleacher Report says 12 team CFP gaining momentum
« Reply #114 on: May 03, 2021, 07:55:57 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on May 03, 2021, 07:22:57 PM
Let's push Purdue to join the MAC and Arizona State to join the Sun Belt! 
Quote from: MaximumSam on May 03, 2021, 07:40:11 PM
Do it!
Now y'all are making this personal. :96:

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Brutus Buckeye

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Re: Bleacher Report says 12 team CFP gaining momentum
« Reply #115 on: May 03, 2021, 08:11:50 PM »
Darrell Hazell's Kent teams would have smoked his Purdue squads.
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Re: Bleacher Report says 12 team CFP gaining momentum
« Reply #116 on: May 03, 2021, 10:04:16 PM »
If I'm Purdue and my conference affiliation is 85% about my biggest revenue sport (I know, it's not), then in a world where every conference champ is in, my ass is moving to the MAC and I'm winning 8 of the next 10 MAC titles, cashing that fat check year after year.  
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@MaximumSam, your idea is lovely, but it's fantasyland.  It actively ignores reality and wouldn't yield results for decades.  We don't even know if football will exist in 2050, much less the near-infinite other aspects of this that we don't know.
It also perpetuates the lie that currently exists of matching programs on very different competitive levels and meshing them together.  Those 5-12 and 6-11 games will be annual beatdowns....they might as well be nicknamed the Hunger Games.
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Even OU gets chided for its poor showings in the playoff now, and it's a top-3 all-time program.  Winning the MAC in your proposal is rewarding a good season with a public execution, year after year after year.  Until one day (many years down the road), it suddenly isn't.  
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Re: Bleacher Report says 12 team CFP gaining momentum
« Reply #117 on: May 04, 2021, 07:29:43 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on May 03, 2021, 10:04:16 PM
If I'm Purdue and my conference affiliation is 85% about my biggest revenue sport (I know, it's not), then in a world where every conference champ is in, my ass is moving to the MAC and I'm winning 8 of the next 10 MAC titles, cashing that fat check year after year. 
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@MaximumSam, your idea is lovely, but it's fantasyland.  It actively ignores reality and wouldn't yield results for decades.  We don't even know if football will exist in 2050, much less the near-infinite other aspects of this that we don't know.
It also perpetuates the lie that currently exists of matching programs on very different competitive levels and meshing them together.  Those 5-12 and 6-11 games will be annual beatdowns....they might as well be nicknamed the Hunger Games.
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Even OU gets chided for its poor showings in the playoff now, and it's a top-3 all-time program.  Winning the MAC in your proposal is rewarding a good season with a public execution, year after year after year.  Until one day (many years down the road), it suddenly isn't. 
The reality it ignores is college football administrator focusing on helping the sport instead of next year's bottom line. But I digress.

I don't care about the "public executions." They play these games now, every single season, and the only difference is you are guaranteed a quality MAC team instead of a bad one. The other part is making sure the best teams get something for being the best. Right now, there is really no advantage to being #1 or #4. With 8 teams, unless you move to home teams fielding games (yet another obvious change that would make games more fun), you still have the same although a clearer line between the top and bottom. Here you have byes, and the next four still have to play and win a game.

Further, there are good games out there! In 2018, UCF finished tenth on the fancy stats. Washington and Fresno State would have been the 8th and 13th ranked teams. Those are good games, not some sort of mismatch that should be eliminated from the sport. 
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Re: Bleacher Report says 12 team CFP gaining momentum
« Reply #118 on: May 04, 2021, 10:15:54 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on May 03, 2021, 10:04:16 PM
If I'm Purdue and my conference affiliation is 85% about my biggest revenue sport (I know, it's not), then in a world where every conference champ is in, my ass is moving to the MAC and I'm winning 8 of the next 10 MAC titles, cashing that fat check year after year. 
Not gonna be any fatter check than what we get from the TV rights being in the Big Ten. 
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Re: Bleacher Report says 12 team CFP gaining momentum
« Reply #119 on: May 04, 2021, 10:20:02 AM »
Yeah, conference TV money pretty much swamps gate and local yaya.
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Re: Bleacher Report says 12 team CFP gaining momentum
« Reply #120 on: May 04, 2021, 10:23:21 AM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on May 04, 2021, 10:15:54 AM
Not gonna be any fatter check than what we get from the TV rights being in the Big Ten.

But Mex assured me that all of the conferences would quickly even out and MAC money will = B1G money in no time!
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Re: Bleacher Report says 12 team CFP gaining momentum
« Reply #121 on: May 04, 2021, 10:34:22 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on May 04, 2021, 10:23:21 AM
But Mex assured me that all of the conferences would quickly even out and MAC money will = B1G money in no time!
I don't recall reading him say that... 

Maybe you're extrapolating what you thought he "meant" based on what he didn't say, as you seem to think we're all capable of doing when you offer half a thought and then get offended when we think the other unwritten half isn't what you intended?
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Re: Bleacher Report says 12 team CFP gaining momentum
« Reply #122 on: May 04, 2021, 10:35:49 AM »
Purdue won't  join the Mac, so speculation is unwarranted for whatever reason.
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Re: Bleacher Report says 12 team CFP gaining momentum
« Reply #123 on: May 04, 2021, 10:42:20 AM »
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Re: Bleacher Report says 12 team CFP gaining momentum
« Reply #124 on: May 04, 2021, 11:26:13 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on May 04, 2021, 10:35:49 AM
Purdue won't  join the Mac, so speculation is unwarranted for whatever reason.
you don't know what they'll do. those train boys are crazy, always going off the rails.
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Re: Bleacher Report says 12 team CFP gaining momentum
« Reply #125 on: May 04, 2021, 11:57:41 AM »
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