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Topic: B1G Power Rankings, week 9

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medinabuckeye1

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B1G Power Rankings, week 9
« on: October 29, 2022, 04:30:45 PM »
Link to last week's rankings:

https://www.cfb51.com/big-ten/b1g-power-rankings-week-8-30888/

Votes through @Brutus Buckeye , 13 voters:

Drop the high and low for each team:

Schedule/performance table:


Not much change this week.  Four teams (UW, UMD, PU, IU) didn't play and the higher ranked team won all five games that were played. 
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 9
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2022, 06:52:40 AM »
1.   Mich
2.   OSU
3.   PSU
4.   ILL
5.   Wisc
6.   Pur
7.   MD
8.   Minn
9.   Iowa
10.   MSU
11.   NEB
12.   RUT
13.   IND
14.  NW
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 9
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2022, 07:20:15 AM »
1. Ohio State
2. Michigan
3. Illinois
4. Penn State
5. Wisconsin
6. Minnesota
7. Iowa
8. Purdue
9. Maryland
10. Nebraska
11. Michigan State
12. Rutgers
13. Indiana
14. Northwestern
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 9
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2022, 07:24:02 AM »
1. Ohio State
2. Michigan
3. Illinois
4. Penn State
5. Purdue
6. Wisconsin
7. Maryland
8. Minnesota
9. Iowa
10. Nebraska
11. Michigan State
12. Rutgers
13. Indiana
14. Northwestern
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 9
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2022, 10:25:35 AM »
OHIO STATE
MICHIGAN
PENN STATE
ILLINOIS
Wisconsin
Maryland - added
PURDUE
Minnesota
Michigan State
Iowa
Nebraska
Rutgers
Indiana
Northwestern


No change from last week
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 9
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2022, 10:36:43 AM »
When I do my rankings I plan to move Michigan to #1. 

The Buckeyes and Wolverines now have three common opponents and the Buckeyes have the bigger scoring differential in two out of three but actually watching the games, Michigan's lines look better.

I still consider The Game to be close to a toss-up because I think that tOSU has better schemes and overall better skill position players but looking at vs PSU my take is:

  • tOSU's lines looked somewhat better.
  • M's lines dominated. 

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 9
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2022, 01:04:43 PM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on October 30, 2022, 10:36:43 AM
When I do my rankings I plan to move Michigan to #1.

The Buckeyes and Wolverines now have three common opponents and the Buckeyes have the bigger scoring differential in two out of three but actually watching the games, Michigan's lines look better.

I still consider The Game to be close to a toss-up because I think that tOSU has better schemes and overall better skill position players but looking at vs PSU my take is:

  • tOSU's lines looked somewhat better.
  • M's lines dominated.


Not that these rankings matter- or I care- since these 2 teams will settle it on the field- but that’s such weird logic.  They are both quite capable of beating the other.

We all know the transitive property does not work at all. But if your going to apply it- be balanced about it.

you just said OSU did better against 2 of their 3 common opponents- but then you focus on the one where UM did better.

You can’t reasonably make that comparison.  OSU mutilated MSU in THEIR stadium, right out of the gate.  UM took a long time to put them away. But that’s a rivalry game. To me- that was a dominating win by Michigan.

My favorite win was the Buckeyes yesterday.  Young team in an incredibly hostile environment- mist hostile environment they will see all year.  PSU playing inspired ball.  Came from behind to take total control of the game with their offense and their defense.  Stroud was money.  26/33 for 78% , 354 yards a TD and no picks.  In that environment!

you hold that against them- but to me that was their best and most valuable win so far. You don’t learn a thing by dominating all game.  They are learning how to win, multiple ways, in a dogfight and hostile environment.
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 9
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2022, 02:24:18 PM »
👍👍👍👍Good Points,I'll still prolly maybe put M at one because since i did tOSU has looked better and better IMHO.Why mess with the recipe 😎 .The emergence of the D-Line under Knowles has been noticeable - can't teach speed
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 9
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2022, 03:40:14 PM »
Last week in parentheses, no changes

  • MICHIGAN (1) - held serve, but can't afford to not cash in those red zone trips into TDs against OSU
  • OHIO STATE (2) - offense turned it on when it needed to
  • PENN STATE (3) - defense played their asses off, but turnovers killed them
  • ILLINOIS (4) - defense continues to impress
  • MARYLAND (5) - bye week
  • WISCONSIN (6) - bye week
  • PURDUE (7) - bye week
  • IOWA (8) - Northwestern can seemingly make any offense look good
  • MINNESOTA (9) - this offense goes as Mo Ibrahim goes
  • MICHIGAN STATE (10) - RBs had 39 yards on 16 carries
  • NEBRASKA (11) - speaking of absent run games
  • RUTGERS (12) - just a brutal performance
  • INDIANA (13) - bye week
  • NORTHWESTERN (14) - nothing more to say

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 9
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2022, 04:47:29 PM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on October 30, 2022, 01:04:43 PM
you just said OSU did better against 2 of their 3 common opponents- but then you focus on the one where UM did better.
I should have mentioned this in my original post but note that in the last two games the tOSU offense has forced a slew of turnovers and I think that those were vital to both games. 

I'm not confident that this is sustainable. Prior to the last two games the Buckeyes hadn't forced many turnovers so is this a reflection of them getting better or just a random thing?

If it is them getting better then tOSU just might have the best defense in the league. If the Buckeyes actually have the best D in the league then they are easily the best team.
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 9
« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2022, 04:50:41 PM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on October 30, 2022, 04:47:29 PM
I should have mentioned this in my original post but note that in the last two games the tOSU offense has forced a slew of turnovers and I think that those were vital to both games.

I'm not confident that this is sustainable. Prior to the last two games the Buckeyes hadn't forced many turnovers so is this a reflection of them getting better or just a random thing?

If it is them getting better then tOSU just might have the best defense in the league. If the Buckeyes actually have the best D in the league then they are easily the best team.
I don’t think they have the “ best” defense.  I do think that Knowles defense is known for causing turnovers.   They are just getting more and more familiar with it.  
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 9
« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2022, 05:01:28 PM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on October 30, 2022, 04:50:41 PM
I don’t think they have the “ best” defense.  I do think that Knowles defense is known for causing turnovers.  They are just getting more and more familiar with it. 
I don't know either but if they can continue to force turnovers at the rate they have in the last two games, they do.
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 9
« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2022, 05:28:51 PM »

  • Ohio State
  • Michigan
  • Illinois
  • Penn State
  • Maryland
  • Wisconsin
  • Purdue
  • Minnesota
  • Iowa
  • Michigan State
  • Rutgers
  • Nebraska
  • Indiana
  • Northwestern

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 9
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2022, 05:42:35 PM »
1) Michigan - Cleanly controls games
2) Ohio State - Inspired 4th quarter
3) Penn State - Good fight.  I think they earned this spot 
4) Illinois - Defense is amazing.  Offense probably not strong enough to challenge the top 3.
5) Maryland - Bye -- hard to sort out 5-7
6) Purdue - Bye
7) Wisconsin - Bye
8) Minnesota - Dominating the bad teams
9) Iowa - Nice bounceback
10) Nebraska - Thought they would put up more of a fight
11) Michigan State - Hung around for awhile.
12) Rutgers - Woof
13) Indiana - Bye
14) Northwestern - Dead last by a lot
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