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Topic: B1G Power Rankings, Week 5

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SFBadger96

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 5
« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2018, 01:49:57 PM »
1) Ohio State: until someone knocks them off.
2) Penn State: looks legit--close loss to top ranked team.
3) Wisconsin: benefited from not playing since beating Iowa on the road.
4) Michigan: Northwestern isn't good, but can be a tough road game.
5) Michigan State: not a great final score against a directional Michigan.
6) Iowa: did not play.
7) Maryland: did not play.
8) Minnesota: did not play.
9) Indiana: a win is a win.
10) Purdue: Nebraska is not good.
11) Northwestern: for putting up a fight.
12) Illinois: did not play, but still sucks.
13) Nebraska: Bad.
14) Rutgers: because Rutgers.
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 5
« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2018, 03:50:46 PM »
S&P+ rankings

1. OSU (3)
2. Michigan (7)
3. PSU (8)
4. Wisconsin (13)
5. MSU (21)
6. Iowa (27)
7. Indiana (49)
8. Purdue (50)
9. Minnesota (55)
10. Maryland (56)
11. Northwestern (59)
12. Nebraska (71)
13. Illinois (101)
14. Rutgers (115)
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medinabuckeye1

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 5
« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2018, 04:08:44 PM »
Quote from: ohio1317 on September 30, 2018, 11:51:17 PM
8. (10) Northwestern:
 11. (11) Purdue: 
 8. (9) Minnesota:
 9. (8) Indiana: 
 12. (12) Illinois: 
I read this as:
  • #8 NU
  • #9 PU
  • #10 MN
  • #11 IU
Did  you mean that or something else?
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MaximumSam

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 5
« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2018, 04:31:07 PM »
Also, Bill Connelly, creator of the S&P+ rankings, always stresses they are supposed to be predictive in nature.  He came up with a resume ranking last year, which basically looks at a team's scoring margin and compares it to what an average top 5 team would do against that schedule.  Alabama is #1 by a mile on that list.

1. OSU (2)
2. PSU (3)
3. Michigan (6)
4. Wisconsin (27)
5. Iowa (32)
6. Maryland (45)
7. Purdue (48)
8. MSU (49)
9. Minnesota (51)
10. Indiana (54)
11. Northwestern (70)
12. Illinois (86)
13. Nebraska (104)
14. Rutgers (122)
« Last Edit: October 02, 2018, 11:47:22 AM by MaximumSam »
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medinabuckeye1

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 5
« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2018, 04:38:24 PM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on September 30, 2018, 12:04:59 AM
  • Ohio State

I'll figure the rest out later.
I was just celebrating when I posted this.  Now for my rankings:
  • Ohio State:  If that game had been in Columbus I would be tempted to move PSU up to #1 but the road win cements the top spot for the Buckeyes.  
  • Penn State:  The Nittany Lions did everything but win.  They had more rushing yards (206-119), more passing yards (286-270), more total yards (492-389), and the worldwide leader says that their probability of winning topped out at just over 96% with just over eight minutes to go.  
  • Wisconsin:  The Badgers move up on a rest.  
  • Michigan:  Getting 20 straight is good, needing 20 straight is not good.  
  • Michigan State:  CMU's 17 fourth quarter points made the final score look competitive but this game was not competitive.  
  • Iowa:  No change on the bye.  
  • Maryland:  No change on the bye.  
  • Purdue:  Going into Lincoln and spanking the Cornhuskers moves the Boilermakers up a spot.  
  • Indiana:  It wasn't actually as competitive as it looked but the opponent was a Rutgers team that got spanked by Kansas.  
  • Minnesota:  No change on the bye.  
  • Northwestern:  If they had held on the beat Michigan I would have moved them up.  As it stands, I am keeping them here because they lost at home to Akron.  
  • Illinois:  No change on the bye.  
  • Nebraska:  Well, they looked better this week than last . . .
  • Rutgers:  Well, they looked reasonably competitive.  What sucks for Rutgers is that they have a great schedule for a bad B1G team.  Their three easiest games (#8 IU, #10/11 NU, and #12 Illinois) are all at home.  If they were remotely competitive they would win those three and upset somebody to go 4-5 in conference and probably go bowling.  Alas, they are not remotely competitive.  
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medinabuckeye1

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 5
« Reply #19 on: October 01, 2018, 06:20:29 PM »
Results posted, votes through me (13 voters).  

Not much change this week.  Michigan and Wisconsin flip/flopped at #3/4 and the #10/11 tie between Northwestern and Minnesota was broken in Northwestern's favor.  

Looking ahead:
After having five teams on a bye last week only Penn State and Purdue are on a bye this week.  This week's games:
  • #8 IU @ #1 tOSU
  • #13 UNL @ #3 UW
  • #7 UMD @ #4 M
  • #10 NU @ #5 MSU
  • #6 IA @ #11 MN
  • #12 IL @ #14 RU

This is Rutgers' last best chance for a conference win in 2018.  Illinois needs a win there to preserve any remaining chance that their coach will be retained into next year.  

Looking way ahead:
Ohio State's backloaded schedule creates an interesting phenomenon.  Between now at November 3 every B1G team other than Ohio State will play at least one game against one of the top-4 in our current rankings.  Meanwhile, Ohio State's best opponent over that stretch is this week's opponent, #8 Indiana.  Barring a substantial upset the Buckeyes should go 4-0 over the next five weeks to move to 9-0/6-0.  
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 5
« Reply #20 on: October 02, 2018, 09:43:39 AM »
We are all in agreement on #1 and #2, but I am shocked that we are not in agreement on the #14?!?

Looking forward to reading the logic that pushed TTUN ahead of Wisconsin by surviving a game against a bad Northwestern Team. 
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 5
« Reply #21 on: October 02, 2018, 10:45:23 AM »
Last week in parenthesis, with only one slight change near the bottom...

  • OHIO STATE (1) - that might be the best conference win of any team in the last few seasons
  • PENN STATE (2) - tough loss, but no reason to drop them
  • MICHIGAN (3) - defense needs to bring their A game out of the gate against solid competition, second time the opponent has gotten off to a big early lead
  • WISCONSIN (4) - IDLE
  • IOWA (5) - IDLE
  • MICHIGAN STATE (6) - not as close as the final score, but also did nothing to show their flaws aren't still flaws
  • MARYLAND (7) - IDLE
  • PURDUE (8) - big road win, but slightly concerning that the defense reverted to pre-BC form
  • INDIANA (9) - not blowing Rutgers out is problematic
  • MINNESOTA (10) - IDLE
  • NORTHWESTERN (12) - a close loss to Michigan on paper should be a moral victory, but not when you blew a 17 point lead
  • NEBRASKA (11) - I probably should have taken the bet re: their bowl eligibility, they are actually worse than I expected
  • ILLINOIS (13) - IDLE
  • RUTGERS (-) - respectable loss at least puts them back on the board
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 5
« Reply #22 on: October 02, 2018, 10:45:43 AM »
Typho:

Michigan fell to #4. They were #3 before. Not that it matters. Neither is obviously better than the other at this point. I wish we could settle that with some sort of ... game.

As for the NU game: the problem wasn't the offense (getting to 20 against a Top 25 defense is entirely fine). The run game was effective and the tackles kept Gaziano in check. That's a win (and a serious development for the OL by Warriner). The problem was the defense for those first three drives. Of course, on every other drive, they allowed a cumulative 0 points and 57 yards. It's still the best defense in the conference. And the comeback on the road showed fortitude. I don't get the hand-wringing.
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ELA

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 5
« Reply #23 on: October 02, 2018, 11:01:39 AM »
Quote from: Anonymous Coward on October 02, 2018, 10:45:43 AM
As for the NU game: the problem wasn't the offense (getting to 20 against a Top 25 defense is entirely fine). 
Fine?  I don't know.  Not terrible, but that's still the fewest points anyone (including Akron) has scored on Northwestern this year.  I agree they weren't the main problem, that was, as I posted in my rankings, the defense taking time to settle in, same as they did against Notre Dame.  But I'm not sure I'd say "fine" either.
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 5
« Reply #24 on: October 02, 2018, 11:10:59 AM »
Quote from: TyphonInc on October 02, 2018, 09:43:39 AM
We are all in agreement on #1 and #2, but I am shocked that we are not in agreement on the #14?!?

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I'm shocked as well.
There's no way Nebraska would paste TXST 35-7 like Rutgers did.
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 5
« Reply #25 on: October 02, 2018, 11:26:08 AM »
Quote from: ELA on October 02, 2018, 11:01:39 AM
Fine?  I don't know.  Not terrible, but that's still the fewest points anyone (including Akron) has scored on Northwestern this year.  I agree they weren't the main problem, that was, as I posted in my rankings, the defense taking time to settle in, same as they did against Notre Dame.  But I'm not sure I'd say "fine" either.
Fine in so far as I foresaw a 20-6 type game and would have been entirely fine with that.
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 5
« Reply #26 on: October 02, 2018, 11:34:44 AM »
Quote from: Anonymous Coward on October 02, 2018, 10:45:43 AM
Typho:

Michigan fell to #4. They were #3 before. Not that it matters. Neither is obviously better than the other at this point. I wish we could settle that with some sort of ... game.
I was going to point out the same thing for @TyphonInc , it was the other way around.  Last week Michigan was ahead of Wisconsin by 0.31 and now Wisconsin is ahead of Michigan by 0.25 (after adding in @ELA 's vote).  It really isn't much movement at all and we'll all find out in two weeks when Wisconsin heads to Ann Arbor.  
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 5
« Reply #27 on: October 02, 2018, 11:36:39 AM »
I added in @ELA 's vote.  It didn't change any of the rankings.  
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