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Re: Awful Clock Management
« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2017, 08:35:14 PM »
I think James Franklin had some bad ones in 2014.  He could've cost OSU a national title with better time management at the end of regulation.  He also messed up the Michigan game that year.  I haven't noticed anything glaring the last few years, so maybe he has cleaned it up.

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Re: Awful Clock Management
« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2017, 09:38:17 PM »
Homer Smith wrote a great book on clock mgmt in 2004.   


Kevin Steele was head coach at Baylor in 1999 and BU led UNLV 24-21 w under 20 secs left and with the ball inside univ 10.  Instead of taking a knee, Steele wanted to instill an attitude to finish and they handed the ball off in an effort to score,  and UNLV forced a fumble and it back 90+ yards for a game winning TD as time expired.

From ESPN's "The 100 plays that define CFB" That is #85.


UNLV Athletics
#85
BLUE STEELE
Waco, Texas | Sept. 11, 1999

Baylor had gone 4-18 in its previous two seasons, so when the Bears stood at the UNLV 8 with a 24-21 lead and time running out, first-year coach Kevin Steele went for attitude and one more score. But Rebels corner Andre Hilliard jarred the ball loose from Darrell Bush near the goal line. UNLV's Kevin Thomas scooped it and ran 100 yards for the 27-24 victory. To this day, coaches Steele themselves to take the knee.

http://www.espn.com/ncf/features/the100?index=85

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Re: Awful Clock Management
« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2017, 09:04:56 AM »
He basically single handidly lost them the MSU game in 2008

If I remember correctly the Badgers blew this game due to unnecessary defensive adjustments, which were especially glaring in the secondary. With 9 minutes left the Badgers were up 24-13 and MSU was able to put together three drives of a touchdown and two field goals to win 25-24. What stood out were at least three 3rd & +12 passing situations where MSU was able to find wide open receivers sprinting through a confused secondary of six & seven dropped back DBs. It looked like Bielema was attempting to implement a prevent defense that the players weren't used to.

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Re: Awful Clock Management
« Reply #17 on: July 31, 2017, 09:40:04 AM »
If I remember correctly the Badgers blew this game due to unnecessary defensive adjustments, which were especially glaring in the secondary. With 9 minutes left the Badgers were up 24-13 and MSU was able to put together three drives of a touchdown and two field goals to win 25-24. What stood out were at least three 3rd & +12 passing situations where MSU was able to find wide open receivers sprinting through a confused secondary of six & seven dropped back DBs. It looked like Bielema was attempting to implement a prevent defense that the players weren't used to.
There were a number of reasons, the one you mentioned.

BB I think took two 15 yard penalties.

A questionable holding penalty that negated a game sealing TD.

Some bad play calls putting the ball in the air, when Wisconsin had been running the ball at will, that both stopped the clock and killed UW drives

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Re: Awful Clock Management
« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2017, 09:56:53 AM »
At Penn State, Bill O'Brien burned a lot of timeouts early in games, like in the first drive, when most everything should have been scripted.

Franklin has burned several timeouts early, as well.

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Re: Awful Clock Management
« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2017, 10:55:51 AM »
2015 Nebraska at Illinois


Nebraska led 13-7 and had third-and-seven at the Illinois 27 with less than one minute left in the game. Illinois had no timeouts. All NU had to do was run the ball, burn another 35-40 seconds off the clock, and the Illini would have virtually no chance to go the length of the field and win the game.
But quarterback Tommy Armstrong ran a bootleg and inexplicably threw a pass. Devine Ozigbo couldn't grab it. The clock stopped. NU failed to convert fourth-and-seven. And, from there, Illinois had enough time to go down the field and win.
So what happened? Did Nebraska really call a pass on that play, in the face of all sensible logic?
According to coaches Mike Riley and Danny Langsdorf, no.
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Re: Awful Clock Management
« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2017, 11:02:26 AM »
I was hoping this wasn't mentioned.   I attended this game,  absolutely should've never happened.  The Riley and Co. gameplan was a travesty.  Here its misting/light rain most of the game, and extremely windy, and Riley's got Armstrong throwing the ball way down the field all throughout the game.    After the failed bootleg, I was yelling outwardly, a rare public outburst by me, the  Illinois fans around me didn't immediately grasp what I felt,  it was over, and now they had life. #

# this doesn't even mention how the refs/BT replay review so badly handled the chains/down and distance sequence for Illinois in the 3rd.   Such a strange football game.

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Re: Awful Clock Management
« Reply #21 on: July 31, 2017, 11:08:16 AM »
my brother and his son also attended that awful game
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Re: Awful Clock Management
« Reply #22 on: July 31, 2017, 12:36:30 PM »
Danny Hope (Purdue / Notre Dame 2009) and Darrell Hazell (numerous) come to mind.


Les Miles was known for some bone-headed clock management problems. I can't call out any specific situations though.

that's cause most of his worked out for him.

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Re: Awful Clock Management
« Reply #23 on: July 31, 2017, 10:50:19 PM »
There were a number of reasons, the one you mentioned.

BB I think took two 15 yard penalties.

A questionable holding penalty that negated a game sealing TD.

Some bad play calls putting the ball in the air, when Wisconsin had been running the ball at will, that both stopped the clock and killed UW drives

IIRC BB also called a timeout early in the 3rd quarter for the sole purpose of haranguing the line judges on his side of the field, a timeout that would have come in handy on their last possession.

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Re: Awful Clock Management
« Reply #24 on: August 01, 2017, 11:15:32 AM »
Timeouts were a much more valuable commodity for those 4-5 years where the clock ran a lot more (forget the exact rules).  Teams were only getting like 7-8 possessions per game (back when Urban was at Florida). 
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Re: Awful Clock Management
« Reply #25 on: August 01, 2017, 11:52:20 AM »
Timeouts were a much more valuable commodity for those 4-5 years where the clock ran a lot more (forget the exact rules).  Teams were only getting like 7-8 possessions per game (back when Urban was at Florida). 
I believe it was just one year, 2006.

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Re: Awful Clock Management
« Reply #26 on: August 01, 2017, 12:05:20 PM »
There were a number of reasons, the one you mentioned.

BB I think took two 15 yard penalties.

A questionable holding penalty that negated a game sealing TD.

Some bad play calls putting the ball in the air, when Wisconsin had been running the ball at will, that both stopped the clock and killed UW drives

BB was terrible that whole season to be honest, and he almost got his walking papers. He had to clean up his life in order to keep his job.

And yes, the two 15 yarders killed UW that day, along with very questionable calls.
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Re: Awful Clock Management
« Reply #27 on: August 01, 2017, 02:29:58 PM »
Franklin had some in the Northwestern game two years ago. 

Urban's was less than desired at the end of the PSU game last season. 

 

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