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ftbobs

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Average Wins Per Season
« on: June 03, 2020, 10:18:17 AM »
Since I accidentally created this:


« Last Edit: June 03, 2020, 10:24:06 AM by ftbobs »

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Re: Average Wins Per Season
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2020, 10:19:59 AM »
Who would have guessed ND would average 6.9 wins per season? It makes sense if you think about it historically of course.


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Re: Average Wins Per Season
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2020, 10:22:00 AM »
Is this for all-time? Seems like it.

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Re: Average Wins Per Season
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2020, 10:22:30 AM »
is this since the 1800's?

many seasons then didn't include 6 games
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Re: Average Wins Per Season
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2020, 10:25:09 AM »
Yes, it's all-time.  I was working on something else and accidentally hit average.  Thought it might be interesting.

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Re: Average Wins Per Season
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2020, 10:27:11 AM »
Thanks. Please continue your work. It's been sorely missed around here.
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Re: Average Wins Per Season
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2020, 10:39:21 AM »
yes. many of ftbobs' creations show why Nebraska is still a "helmet"

top 12 here is impressive
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Re: Average Wins Per Season
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2020, 10:52:42 AM »
It is interesting.  It is obviously biased in favor of schools that haven't been playing very long due to the increased number of games lately.  For Ohio State:

  • Averaged 13 the last two years (both 13-1)
  • Averaged at least 12 since 2012 (Urban took over that year)
  • Averaged at least 11 since 2001 (Tressel took over that year)
  • Averaged at least 10 since 1988 (Cooper took over that year)
  • Averaged at least nine since 1957 (Woody's second NC)
  • Averaged at least 8.8 since 1951 (Woody took over that year)
  • Averaged at least eight since 1928

An illustration of how much this has changed:
In three seasons from 1968-1970 Ohio State won an NC and missed twice by losing their last game.  Over those three seasons they averaged nine wins:
  • 1968:  10-0 Big Ten, Rose Bowl, and National Champions
  • 1969:  8-1 Lost to Michigan in what was guaranteed to be the Buckeyes' last game due to the conference's "no repeat" rule wrt the Rose Bowl
  • 1970:  9-1 Lost to Stanford in the Rose Bowl.  
  • Total 27-2
  • Average 9-0.67
That is an extremely good three-year stretch but it "only" averaged nine wins because the team could only play nine or ten per year.  

By way of comparison the last three years (2017-2019) have been good, but not quite THAT good for the Buckeyes but they have averaged a LOT more wins:
  • 2017:  12-2 B1G and Cotton Bowl Champions, missed CFP.  The two losses were to Oklahoma OOC and Iowa in the B1G.  The Buckeyes got an "extra" win over UW in the B1GCG.  
  • 2018:  13-1 B1G and Rose Bowl Champions, missed CFP.  The loss was to Purdue in the B1G.  The Buckeyes got an "extra" win over NU in the B1GCG.  
  • 2019:  13-1 B1G Champions.  The loss was in the CFP Semi-Final.  
  • Total 38-4
  • Average 12.67-1.33

Comparing to 1968-1970:  
  • The 2017-2019 Buckeyes averaged 0.67 MORE losses per year than the 1968-1970 Buckeyes
  • The 2017-2019 Buckeyes averaged 3.67 MORE wins per year than the 1968-1970 Buckeyes due to a longer regular season (12 vs 9) and the possibility of a CG and bowl EVERY year.  


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Re: Average Wins Per Season
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2020, 01:33:08 PM »
Thanks. Please continue your work. It's been sorely missed around here.
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Re: Average Wins Per Season
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2020, 02:12:12 PM »

. . . An illustration of how much this has changed:

In three seasons from 1968-1970 Ohio State won an NC and missed twice by losing their last game.  Over those three seasons they averaged nine wins:
  • 1968:  10-0 Big Ten, Rose Bowl, and National Champions
  • 1969:  8-1 Lost to Michigan in what was guaranteed to be the Buckeyes' last game due to the conference's "no repeat" rule wrt the Rose Bowl
  • 1970:  9-1 Lost to Stanford in the Rose Bowl. 
  • Total 27-2
  • Average 9-0.67
That is an extremely good three-year stretch but it "only" averaged nine wins because the team could only play nine or ten per year. . . .
That's just when I was starting to pay attention to college football.  I didn't remember tOSU's 3-year stretch had been quite that good.  That's a hell of a run to only emerge with one national championship.
Even better than, and also reminiscent of, OU's stretch from '85 through '87.  33-3, with all three losses to Miami, including a #1 vs. #2 matchup in the '87 (season) Orange Bowl.  One natty--1985 with a win over Penn State in the Orange Bowl.
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Re: Average Wins Per Season
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2020, 02:19:00 PM »
Husker's stretch while I was in school

1982-84

34-4 - no titles

one loss to Joe Pa on his home field and his own refs

one missed 2-point conversion - loss to the Canes on home field

one huge upset by syracuse in 84 and a loss to the Sooners
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Re: Average Wins Per Season
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2020, 02:32:23 PM »
Oh, yeah?

Sooners' stretch when I was there in the first four of my five wasted years, plus my wasted senior year in HS:

54-3-1.  A loss to Nebraska in '71.  A loss to Colorado in '72.  A tie with USC in '73.  A loss to Kansas (Kansas!) in '75.

A natty and a half.  We'll say two.
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Re: Average Wins Per Season
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2020, 02:59:11 PM »
i got you...

bama while i was in school:

record: 33-30 (.524)
sec-w titles: 0
sec titles: 0
national titles: 0
bowl record: 2-2
iron bowl record: 0-5
3rd sat in oct wins: 2-3
embarrassing losses: 3 (hawaii, northern illinois, la monroe)
# of coaches: 4 (price (0 games coached), shula, kines (1 game), saban (but his first year in which he went 7-6))
# of scandals: 3 (counting the means scandal as it was still ongoing, the price "it's rollin' baby" scandal, and textbook-gate) could possibly include the rich rod almost hiring saga, and saban's "i'm not gonna coach at bama" saga, though both of those worked out in bama's favor.

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Re: Average Wins Per Season
« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2020, 03:21:05 PM »
Ouch!  What's the worst of all that?

I'm guessing this one: Iron Bowl record: 0-5.
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