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Topic: All-Time OSU help - By Decade

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MrNubbz

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Re: All-Time OSU help
« Reply #84 on: February 18, 2021, 02:04:20 PM »
Prolly because someone wasn't stretching the field.Do that and it makes defending so much easier
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Re: All-Time OSU help
« Reply #85 on: February 18, 2021, 02:38:11 PM »
It's quite amazing that I note a fanbase trashes a guy who was a great player, and they go off the deep end.  Out of one side of their mouths they say they don't trash him, then say how limited he was and should have been replaced out of the other side of their mouths.
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Is that some kind of medical condition?
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Re: All-Time OSU help
« Reply #86 on: February 18, 2021, 02:57:15 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on February 18, 2021, 01:50:05 PM


It’s funny that earlier you said this isn’t Wisconsin in reference to this. Because I think UW Has had functionally similar debates like seven times since my time on campus. I think I’ve seen it at just about every SEC school. Now the main difference is that Ohio State does have considerably better back ups.


Well then if every fan base does it including ones that don't have adequate backups available, then it should come as no surprise that a shamelessly rabid fanbase who DOES have adequate backups available would also do it too. 
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Re: All-Time OSU help
« Reply #87 on: February 18, 2021, 03:01:52 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on February 18, 2021, 02:01:25 PM
 Also, that Clemson defense was really really good and that OSU offense was not.
Sigh/ they made the CFB POs,every single one of those OSU starters from that game are on NFL rosters today.Two of them Price and Elflein won Rimingtons in '16 & '17 respectively.There is one on that offense that isn't fancy a guess?
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Re: All-Time OSU help
« Reply #88 on: February 18, 2021, 03:02:39 PM »
Hmmm....maybe this will progress the conversation to more reasonable tides:  What QB at Ohio State was better than Barrett BEFORE he played there?
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Re: All-Time OSU help
« Reply #89 on: February 18, 2021, 03:11:00 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on February 18, 2021, 02:38:11 PM
It's quite amazing that I note a fanbase trashes a guy who was a great player, and they go off the deep end.  Out of one side of their mouths they say they don't trash him, then say how limited he was and should have been replaced out of the other side of their mouths.
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Is that some kind of medical condition?
When you're in whole stop digging you troll.Pointing out lack of productivety is not hating.Suggesting two number ones should start in front of guy who has been cut 14 times is obvious to every one but you.I really should not be shocked as you are the asshole that said those helping the less fortunate are only doing it to manipulate them later - you deplorable steaming pile.Really we never requested your services so just stay on an SEC board it's a win-win.Sans you this group has been together since at least 2004,go elsewhere You can be an anarchist snoflake all you want
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Re: All-Time OSU help
« Reply #90 on: February 18, 2021, 03:13:06 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on February 18, 2021, 03:02:39 PM
Hmmm....maybe this will progress the conversation to more reasonable tides:  What QB at Ohio State was better than Barrett BEFORE he played there?
So now your dizzy because the tables have been turned?Go see the medicine man perhaps he can help - good day
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Re: All-Time OSU help
« Reply #91 on: February 18, 2021, 03:18:22 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on February 18, 2021, 02:57:15 PM

Well then if every fan base does it including ones that don't have adequate backups available, then it should come as no surprise that a shamelessly rabid fanbase who DOES have adequate backups available would also do it too.
It does not surprise me. The point was that it's unlikely all fanbases are correct that many of their better QBs are worse than the players backing them up. Thus it points to the idea that the thought process that leads us there should be self-interrogated thoroughly by all. 

UW came an injury away from having another situation like that. Only it turned out, our golden boy was not quite ready (this is not a commentary on anything at OSU, merely a reality that our highly-rated guy was not ready)
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Re: All-Time OSU help
« Reply #92 on: February 18, 2021, 03:29:38 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on February 18, 2021, 03:18:22 PM
It does not surprise me. The point was that it's unlikely all fanbases are correct that many of their better QBs are worse than the players backing them up. Thus it points to the idea that the thought process that leads us there should be self-interrogated thoroughly by all.

UW came an injury away from having another situation like that. Only it turned out, our golden boy was not quite ready (this is not a commentary on anything at OSU, merely a reality that our highly-rated guy was not ready)


Yeah, that's why I don't typically involve myself in depth chart talk. 

It was weird though how reluctant Urban was to play Jones and Haskins. Any excuse to pull Jones for Barrett was a good one in his mind. When Haskins was setting records, he was all like "yeah he's having a pretty good year, but we have this other guy named Tate Martell who we just have to get on the field. He's incredible. I've never seen such a gamer in all my years of coaching." Now obviously he preferred the running guy to the thrower, but it isn't like Jones was just a statue back there. He could run, and knock defenders out of the game, and improvise on the fly. In the NCG he tried the middle but it was plugged up, so he bounced it outside and picked up the first down. 

The insinuation that Barrett was the undisputed best QB on a team that also had Jones, Haskins, Miller and Burrow is kind of a ridiculous one. Certainly debatable; particularly on a CFB message board in the offseason. 
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Re: All-Time OSU help
« Reply #93 on: February 18, 2021, 03:52:08 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on February 18, 2021, 03:13:06 PM
So now your dizzy because the tables have been turned?Go see the medicine man perhaps he can help - good day
LOL....the irrational fanbase doubles and triples down on its irrationality, and tables have been turned?  

An objective observer will see that I attempted to move on with RBs-by-decade talk and then again with comparing Barrett with all previous Buckeye QBs, but to no avail.


The name-calling and insults MUST continue!  
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Re: All-Time OSU help
« Reply #94 on: February 18, 2021, 03:53:30 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on February 18, 2021, 03:29:38 PM

The insinuation that Barrett was the undisputed best QB on a team that also had Jones, Haskins, Miller and Burrow is kind of a ridiculous one. Certainly debatable; particularly on a CFB message board in the offseason.
Who made that argument?  You can't possibly think that's what's been said here.  
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Re: All-Time OSU help
« Reply #95 on: February 18, 2021, 03:54:18 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on February 18, 2021, 03:29:38 PM



It was weird though how reluctant Urban was to play Jones and Haskins.
Perhaps it's only weird to all of us who lacked all of the pertinent information.  Is it not easy to assume the HC's decision was justified and perhaps easily so?  Does anyone have more incentive for his team's success than him?  
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« Reply #96 on: February 18, 2021, 03:59:49 PM »
3 more replies in succession, without a thought between them. 

Round and round we go for pages and pages, while the moron masterbates. 
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Re: All-Time OSU help
« Reply #97 on: February 18, 2021, 04:02:39 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on February 18, 2021, 03:29:38 PM

Yeah, that's why I don't typically involve myself in depth chart talk.

It was weird though how reluctant Urban was to play Jones and Haskins. Any excuse to pull Jones for Barrett was a good one in his mind. When Haskins was setting records, he was all like "yeah he's having a pretty good year, but we have this other guy named Tate Martell who we just have to get on the field. He's incredible. I've never seen such a gamer in all my years of coaching." Now obviously he preferred the running guy to the thrower, but it isn't like Jones was just a statue back there. He could run, and knock defenders out of the game, and improvise on the fly. In the NCG he tried the middle but it was plugged up, so he bounced it outside and picked up the first down.

The insinuation that Barrett was the undisputed best QB on a team that also had Jones, Haskins, Miller and Burrow is kind of a ridiculous one. Certainly debatable; particularly on a CFB message board in the offseason.
I can buy that. I certainly wouldn't call JT the undisputed best QB. The thing I can never get a read on is how good were players in the seasons where they didn't play. Not from an arguing about who should start element, but like were all the receivers actually raving about Burrow in that sophomore yea off practice, or did they generally know? Because sometimes you do and sometimes you don't. Just find that interesting. 

I kinda know why Jones had some issues. Coaches like someone who works, puts in the time, knows all the stuff, and one notable anecdote I got from someone who worked there indicated Jones was not much of a worker. 
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