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OrangeAfroMan

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« Reply #140 on: December 21, 2017, 11:19:52 PM »
random - fyi, Miami went 11 years between losses to anyone ranked below 16th (mid-80s to mid 90s).  That's nuts.  

random - 1989 Colorado was better than 1990 (split NC) Colorado.

1976 Maryland went 11-1, losing to the only ranked team they played (in the Cotton Bowl).  The Terps did not miss a FG all year, but did miss 5 extra points.  They also had a great defense.
2001 Maryland lost 2 games - @ FSU and vs Florida (Orange Bowl).  The Terps gave up 50+ points in each contest.

random - Army has only had 2 seasons in which it even got into the AP Top 25 poll at all since 1963.  

1976 Rutgers went 11-0, with 3 games against Ivy League schools and 4 other "non-majors".  Their defense was especially effective.  
2006 Rutgers was probably their best team of the last 40 years, though - led by Ray Rice (11-2).  



Interesting the 2 new B10 schools had peak seasons in '76.
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« Reply #141 on: December 21, 2017, 11:26:15 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on December 21, 2017, 11:04:29 PM
Colorado curb stomped Nebraska in the final game of the regular season, then won the Big XII CCG the following week.

That was the year that the Huskers played in the NC game, even though they didn't win their division.


Ah, that's right - CU beat UNL and then Texas, and people were considering a 2-loss Buffaloes team to play for the NC.  It was unheard of back then....and yet just six years later, LSU pulled off the feat.  
I wonder if 2007 LSU happens without 2001 Colorado causing the discussion at least.  I'd be willing to bet if it had happened 20 years earlier, the 2007 NCG would've been Ohio State vs Kansas.  
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« Reply #142 on: December 22, 2017, 08:03:25 AM »
1998 Purdue memory (the latter is not what it once was).

Brees threw like 85 passes and completed 55 of them. Dayne ran for 250? yards. I dunno. It was a lot.

"Jump Around" was played for the first ever time at Camp Randall. Home night game.

Cool game to be at.

That Purdue team went on to shock Kansas State in the Alamo Bowl.
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« Reply #143 on: December 22, 2017, 01:31:27 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on December 22, 2017, 08:03:25 AM
1998 Purdue memory (the latter is not what it once was).

Brees threw like 85 passes and completed 55 of them. Dayne ran for 250? yards. I dunno. It was a lot.

"Jump Around" was played for the first ever time at Camp Randall. Home night game.

Cool game to be at.

That Purdue team went on to shock Kansas State in the Alamo Bowl.
Brees 55-83, 494 yards, 2 TDs, four picks.
Big Ron with 127 on 33 carries. UW only had 229 yards. 
But Fletcher had the go-ahead pick-six in the third and Mike Echols had an end zone pick to prevent a score. 
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« Reply #144 on: December 22, 2017, 02:53:43 PM »
I remember that Echols pick. The place went bananas (even more).

Samuels and Bennett must have gained some yards on the ground. I knew the number was up there but I thought Dayne had more for some reason. Maybe that was the year before against Purdue, or even the year before that.
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« Reply #145 on: December 22, 2017, 05:28:57 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on December 18, 2017, 01:32:41 PM
OSU wasn't even Bowl eligible in 1999.
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on December 18, 2017, 01:32:41 PM
OSU wasn't even Bowl eligible in 1999.
A lot of that had to do with how incredibly good the conference was that year.  The Buckeyes went 6-6 that year.  Usually a team that goes 6-6 loses to some bad teams, but not Ohio State that year.  The teams they lost to were:
  • Miami, FL - finished 9-4  and ranked #15
  • Wisconsin - finished 10-2  and ranked #4
  • Penn State - finished 10-3  and ranked #11
  • Michigan State - finished 10-2  and ranked #7
  • Illinois - finished 8-4 and ranked #24
  • Michigan - finished 10-2  and ranked #5

The Buckeyes also beat Purdue (finished 7-5 and #25) and Minnesota (finished 8-4 and #18) so in all they were 2-6 against teams that finished ranked.  

Ohio State certainly wasn't a great team that year, but I think that in a normal year that team would have pretty easily finished 9-4 or thereabouts.  
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« Reply #146 on: December 22, 2017, 08:03:50 PM »
I still blame QB Steve Bellisari. 

His three year career as a starter was bookended by a pair of incredible teams. 1998, and the 2002 NC team. 

So all of the other Buckeye starters on the roster from 1999-2001 were key contributors on one of those two outstanding teams.

Yet they went 6-6 in 1999, then lost back to back Outback Bowls against S Carolina, getting John Cooper canned in the process. 

The lone bright spot from those three seasons was the 2001 victory over Michigan, and that only happened because Steve Bellisari was suspended for getting a DUI the night before the Illinois game. 
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« Reply #147 on: December 22, 2017, 08:24:44 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on December 21, 2017, 11:04:29 PM
Colorado curb stomped Nebraska in the final game of the regular season, then won the Big XII CCG the following week.

That was the year that the Huskers played in the NC game, even though they didn't win their division.


was awesome
got to watch my Huskers in the Rose!
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« Reply #148 on: December 22, 2017, 09:44:31 PM »
From an outside perspective, I feel like the 2007 Buckeyes are a forgotten team.  One quarter away from a NC.  But Todd Boeckman?  The Wells' at RB.  The Brians at WR.  Great D - Ghoston, Laurinitis, etc., but kind of a "huh?" memory, no?
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« Reply #149 on: December 22, 2017, 10:37:58 PM »
The 2007 team was good.

They were robbed in the Illinois game when one of the Illini players lost the ball before crossing the goal line and the refs didn't see it.

Almost cost 'em a trip to the NC game, but then all the teams ahead of them started losing, which was awesome, but it was one too many.

Pitt knocked Rich Rod's West Virginia team out of it allowing 2-loss LSU to nabb their spot.

Beanie Wells is quite a character. He does a daily radio show in Columbus.
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« Reply #150 on: December 23, 2017, 12:35:06 AM »
Looking at the 07 Buckeyes, the oddity that stands out to me is backup Maurice Wells' numbers - it's rare for the backup RB to have a bad yards-per-carry average.  Usually, they have something decent or good, at least as good as the starter, due to having many fewer carries.  But Chris Wells averaged 3.6 ypc.  That would be ho-hum if Beanie averaged 4.0 or less, but he was up at 5.9.  Odd.
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« Reply #151 on: December 23, 2017, 01:50:40 AM »
Uh. Chris Wells is Beanie Wells. They are the same guy. 
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« Reply #152 on: December 23, 2017, 10:59:33 AM »
Then the other Wells, ffs.....Maurice.  
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« Reply #153 on: December 23, 2017, 01:23:07 PM »
Clarett, Wells. Close enough.
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