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Topic: #5 Notre Dame (0-1) at #2 Ohio State (1-0, 0-0) Post Game

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Re: #5 Notre Dame (0-0) at #2 Ohio State (0-0, 0-0) Game Week
« Reply #56 on: September 02, 2022, 04:41:32 PM »
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Re: #5 Notre Dame (0-0) at #2 Ohio State (0-0, 0-0) Game Week
« Reply #57 on: September 02, 2022, 05:08:22 PM »

***GAME OF THE WEEK***
#5 Notre Dame Fighting Irish at #2 Ohio State Buckeyes
7:30 - Columbus, OH - ABC
Such is college football right now, that even a matchup between a pair of top 5 teams, a pair of helmet schools, meeting in a season opener, doesn't feel like it has the oomph it should.  Compared to the Ohio State-Texas series nearly two decades ago, this just feels different.  Because there are CFP contenders, and there are national title contenders.  And the gap has never felt larger.  Notre Dame is a CFP contender.  Ohio State is a national title contender.  Ryan Day thinks he plugged the leak, his defense, by hiring away Jim Knowles for Oklahoma State.  The Cowboys ranked # in the nation in ypg allowed, ppg allowed, and #1 in sacks and explosive play defense.  Nobody is going to confuse this with Tressel ball, but what Knowles was able to do, with an offensive first team like Oklahoma State, should be a good sign for a team with an even more explosive offense, and FAR more talent on defense.  Certainly more defensive talent on defense than they showed against Oregon or Michigan last year.  I think Marcus Freeman is going to kill it at Notre Dame.  I think he is going to level up from what Brian Kelly did at Notre Dame.  Kelly maximized the talent he had, but Freeman is a great coach, and is, I think going to both increase the level of talent, and maintain the level of coaching.  That is what held the Irish back on the big stage.  They simply couldn't talent up with Alabama, Ohio State, Georgia, or Clemson.  Freeman gives them a better chance to do that, but it's going to take a year or two.  Sophomore Tyler Buchner will challenge that Buckeye defense.  He has a talented group of receivers, led by Lorenzo Styles, but is only a sophomore, with limited experience.  If this game was in November (and maybe in South Bend), I'd give them a chance.  But this is his first game as THE guy.  And as good as his group of receivers is, and they are, I'm not sure any of them would even break into the Buckeyes' top 3 group.  With a Heisman trophy finalist throwing to them.
OHIO STATE 37, NOTRE DAME 24


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Re: #5 Notre Dame (0-0) at #2 Ohio State (0-0, 0-0) Game Week
« Reply #58 on: September 02, 2022, 05:17:40 PM »
well, that settles it
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Re: #5 Notre Dame (0-0) at #2 Ohio State (0-0, 0-0) Game Week
« Reply #59 on: September 02, 2022, 05:41:20 PM »
You are most definitely NOT optimistic. As recounted above the national media, national coaches, wise guys, and posters here all generally see tOSU as a NC Contender.

Therefore, that is a reasonable expectation. Your projection of basically "I just hope they beat ND" is pessimistic.

I'm cautiously optimistic about the defense but for this game I'm not sure how much it matters. Last year's team went 11-2 with a crap defense and I think this year's offense will be better so even with no defensive improvement they should beat a Notre Dame team with a brand new first-time HC.

It isn't a different opinion that grated on me, it was the presentation. As I said above, I read your response to my first post in this thread as:Maybe that wasn't how you meant it, but that was how I read it and it bothered me specifically because it inverts reality. In reality my view is the consensus of the national media, the national coaches, the board members here, the wise guys, etc. You are the one with a view wildly different from all of us.

You might turn out to be right and your opinion certainly doesn't bother me. What did bother me was the implication that I was living alone in some fanatic's fantasy land. The national consensus is by definition NOT a lone fanatic's fantasy land. It could certainly end up being wrong (it usually is for between one and three of the preseason top-10) but it isn't irrational or unrealistic.

You obviously disagree with the national consensus but please don't state that in a way that implies that I am the outlier. In fact YOU are the outlier.

If you disagree with the consensus then say so. Say "I think the AP voters, the Coaches poll voters, the Wise Guys in Vegas, and most members of this board are wrong. I think the Buckeyes are probably a 7-5 (or whatever your projection would be) team this year."
Ok.    I will say it differently


as I have told you on numerous occasions- I absolutely love your analysis, and not just Buckeye stuff.  Big ten trends, records, road records, remaining schedules, all of it. I look forward to it!

I am OPTIMISTIC that all the national talking heads are right this season, since they were all wrong last season due to substantial deficiencies on defense.  And those deficiencies were present in the NC game the year before.

I have identified - as has everyone else- the main reasons for those deficiencies, bad, super predictable scheme with very young players.

I am very Optimistic that those 2 issues are massively improved this season, which- as I have said here NUMEROUS times- would make OSU a tough out for ANYONE!

I am OPTIMISTIC  we will see signs of it in game 1 Saturday. 

I am extremely OPTIMISTIC that we will see it more and more through the season.

lastly- as I have said on NUMEROUS occasions- ND is loaded on both the offensive and defensive line( so much so that the talking heads said several times last evening that this will be possibly the best offenses and defensive line on the buckeyes schedule!) With a running quarterback, and a strategy to play Tressal  ball,
They might have the ability to slow the game down, Chew up lots of clock thereby limiting Ohio states offensive possessions, and keep this game relatively close.  A friend of mine texted me and asked me for my prediction. I said it’s nothing but I best guess because you don’t really know what these teams have but my prediction was 34 to 24 in favor of the buckeyes.

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Re: #5 Notre Dame (0-0) at #2 Ohio State (0-0, 0-0) Game Week
« Reply #60 on: September 02, 2022, 07:16:26 PM »
This is a very interesting game. I think ELA hit the nail on the head that Freeman is going to be a great coach at ND, but he probably needs time. The Buckeyes also tend to start the season slow for some odd reason.

That being said, Stroud was wildly under appreciated to end the season, including so many Buckeye fans after the UM game, which I found odd because he had a great game. If buckeyes defense is even decent, I think this could get ugly because the Buckeye offense is loaded.

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Re: #5 Notre Dame (0-0) at #2 Ohio State (0-0, 0-0) Game Week
« Reply #62 on: September 03, 2022, 11:52:20 AM »

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I was there in the student section.

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Re: #5 Notre Dame (0-0) at #2 Ohio State (0-0, 0-0) Game Week
« Reply #63 on: September 03, 2022, 11:54:30 AM »
yeah that photo is infamous, even though he didn't score. 

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Re: #5 Notre Dame (0-0) at #2 Ohio State (0-0, 0-0) Game Week
« Reply #64 on: September 03, 2022, 12:31:22 PM »
Deciding which shirt to wear. #1 front.

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Re: #5 Notre Dame (0-0) at #2 Ohio State (0-0, 0-0) Game Week
« Reply #65 on: September 03, 2022, 12:32:40 PM »
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Re: #5 Notre Dame (0-0) at #2 Ohio State (0-0, 0-0) Game Week
« Reply #66 on: September 03, 2022, 12:33:09 PM »
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Re: #5 Notre Dame (0-0) at #2 Ohio State (0-0, 0-0) Game Week
« Reply #67 on: September 03, 2022, 12:42:36 PM »
I have more but site isn't letting me post. I think I'll go with 1995 because I was there.

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Re: #5 Notre Dame (0-0) at #2 Ohio State (0-0, 0-0) Game Week
« Reply #68 on: September 03, 2022, 07:53:09 PM »
Buck's defense holds to a FG
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Re: #5 Notre Dame (0-0) at #2 Ohio State (0-0, 0-0) Game Week
« Reply #69 on: September 03, 2022, 08:04:01 PM »
I want them to force a current RB to wear Eddie George's shoulder pads for a game, see how it goes.
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