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Topic: #5 Notre Dame (0-1) at #2 Ohio State (1-0, 0-0) Post Game

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Re: #5 Notre Dame (0-0) at #2 Ohio State (0-0, 0-0) Game Week
« Reply #84 on: September 04, 2022, 08:07:19 AM »
I think I’m confused by both teams after watching the game. I’m not sure if I think ND is better than expected or OSU worse. Once thing is for sure, Stroud is like a more athletic and higher version of Cade McNamera. Stroud is an excellent game manager that doesn’t make mistakes. Very likable kid as well.

Won’t know enough about the Buckeyes until 9/24.
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Re: #5 Notre Dame (0-0) at #2 Ohio State (0-0, 0-0) Game Week
« Reply #85 on: September 04, 2022, 08:16:25 AM »
HB help me out I know Smith-Njigba is one,but after last year's exodus of Olave and Wilson who were the other two?
They ran all through fall camp with Njigba, Harrison, and Fleming starting. 
Njigba was gone after first series, Fleming was never on the field due to injury. 
also remember that the top four targets last year were Olave, Wilson, Ruckert and NJigba. 

So in effect, a completely new receiving crew. And Stroud completed 71% of his passes (24/34)
To 9 different receivers with no turnovers.

that part of the game will definitely get crisper but has Ryan Day said after the game, Notre Dame is built like many Big Ten teams that they will have to face. It was good to win using the defense and running game because they’re going to have to do that later.
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Re: #5 Notre Dame (0-0) at #2 Ohio State (0-0, 0-0) Game Week
« Reply #86 on: September 04, 2022, 08:22:55 AM »
Absolutely pathetic performance on both sides of the ball. Bucks now competing to be the team doing the least with most outside of Austin.
I think we all can recall in the past how Game One was either inspiringly great, or depressingly awful, and the season turned around, and around, and around.  Nobody is likely quite as good, or as bad, as they seemed.  ND could be an 11-1 team, as noted, we don't know, or 8-4.  The win part can't be changed, OSU won, end of story.  How good they looked can be changed.

(The same of course is true for UGA and everyone else except Nebraska.)

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Re: #5 Notre Dame (0-0) at #2 Ohio State (0-0, 0-0) Game Week
« Reply #87 on: September 04, 2022, 08:33:48 AM »
Great win for the Buckeyes. They ran the ball down hill to win.  When pressured Stroud threw the ball very well on the move.

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Re: #5 Notre Dame (0-0) at #2 Ohio State (0-0, 0-0) Game Week
« Reply #88 on: September 04, 2022, 08:57:16 AM »
It all reminds me of last season when Georgia used a pick six to beat Clemson 10 to 3 in the first game.

Remember, Ohio State has a five week stretch where they play Wisconsin, Iowa, Michigan State, and Penn State.  That’s four very physical teams.

From what I saw last night I think their chances of being competitive in all those games is greater than it would have been last year to be honest.
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Re: #5 Notre Dame (0-0) at #2 Ohio State (0-0, 0-0) Game Week
« Reply #89 on: September 04, 2022, 09:21:46 AM »
Yeah, the Dawg O didn't look that great again a pretty stout Clemmons D, they ended up averaging nearly 39 per ...

Then Clemson later looked not so great but ended 10-3, so it was a decent win, but didn't presage any NC level team.

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Re: #5 Notre Dame (0-0) at #2 Ohio State (0-0, 0-0) Game Week
« Reply #90 on: September 04, 2022, 10:03:44 AM »
Ohio State fans should be very encouraged by that W. 

The new OSU defense put the clamps down and Stroud was efficient and got the job done- even without his main go to guy. OSU also ran the ball really well. 

ND isn’t a great team- but they aren’t some tomato can either. Probably a solid 8-10 win team. And Week 1 is always a son of a bitch where the kinks are getting worked out. 

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Re: #5 Notre Dame (0-0) at #2 Ohio State (0-0, 0-0) Game Week
« Reply #91 on: September 04, 2022, 02:41:36 PM »
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Re: #5 Notre Dame (0-0) at #2 Ohio State (0-0, 0-0) Game Week
« Reply #92 on: September 04, 2022, 03:25:17 PM »
Any W against a team likely to end up top 15 or better is great down the line.  ND won't fall far because it was close and on the road.  They should finish 10-2ish, probably a NY6 bowl.  You don't get a chance to play many teams of that ilk in a season out of conference.

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Re: #5 Notre Dame (0-0) at #2 Ohio State (0-0, 0-0) Game Week
« Reply #93 on: September 04, 2022, 04:45:11 PM »
Ohio State fans should be very encouraged by that W.

The new OSU defense put the clamps down
and Stroud was efficient and got the job done- even without his main go to guy. OSU also ran the ball really well.

ND isn’t a great team- but they aren’t some tomato can either. Probably a solid 8-10 win team. And Week 1 is always a son of a bitch where the kinks are getting worked out.
watched most of the 2nd half and it was much more encouraging than what I listened to in the 1st half. Notre Dame was pretty physical,lets hope that's not a trend.What ever adjustments needed to be made Knowles apparently made them so that's a good sign as on the field the teams appeared evenly matched
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Re: #5 Notre Dame (0-0) at #2 Ohio State (0-0, 0-0) Game Week
« Reply #94 on: September 05, 2022, 10:00:03 AM »
yeah that photo is infamous, even though he didn't score.


That is my all time favorite picture of any Buckeye game. It is a classic. 

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Re: #5 Notre Dame (0-0) at #2 Ohio State (0-0, 0-0) Game Week
« Reply #95 on: September 05, 2022, 10:10:16 AM »
I think that people are forgetting that ND had a very good defense last year, it was their offense that needed some work. I was concerned going into this game that the Bucks may not be physical enough to beat that ND Defense. Add to that the concern for the OSU defense breaking in a new system and I was quite concerned with the outcome. 

I think that Freeman has done wonders with this ND team and I can see them very easily winning 10 games this season and possibly not loosing again. I am also ecstatic that the Buck were able to win a phsyical game like this. I hope they all are not this way, but I can see many of their opponents looking to run the ball to shorten the game just like ND tried to do. This may be the blueprint for teams playing OSU this year and if so, they just proved to themselves that they have the talent and physical abilty to win those games.

PS. Michigan still sucks. :)

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Re: #5 Notre Dame (0-1) at #2 Ohio State (1-0, 0-0) Post Game
« Reply #96 on: September 05, 2022, 10:16:18 AM »
Good to see you around my friend.
And you, sir.

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Re: #5 Notre Dame (0-1) at #2 Ohio State (1-0, 0-0) Post Game
« Reply #97 on: September 06, 2022, 12:12:14 PM »
I think we all can recall in the past how Game One was either inspiringly great, or depressingly awful, and the season turned around, and around, and around.  Nobody is likely quite as good, or as bad, as they seemed.  ND could be an 11-1 team, as noted, we don't know, or 8-4.  The win part can't be changed, OSU won, end of story.  How good they looked can be changed.

(The same of course is true for UGA and everyone else except Nebraska.)
This is always the complication with an early game. We are evaluating both teams but we don't have much to go on for either one so there are a lot of guesses necessarily being made.

From Notre Dame's perspective, if the Buckeyes are truly one of the best two teams in the nation as they are ranked then this was a great performance by the Irish. They went on the road, led at the half and all the way until the final few seconds of the third quarter, and they were within one score until the last five minutes. Against a NC caliber team that is really good. Conversely, if Ohio State is more like they were last year or a step down from that then Notre Dame's performance isn't so good.

From Ohio State's perspective the same applies. If Notre Dame ends up 11-1 then this was a very nice quality win. Conversely, if Notre Dame loses at home to Clemson, on the road to USC, and in Vegas to BYU then also suffers an upset or two to finish 6-6 or 7-5 then this was a highly unimpressive win for the Buckeyes.

It has become apparent to me in this thread that I have a much lower opinion of Notre Dame's strength than most everyone else including the national poll voters and consequently I'm a little less happy with this win than I otherwise would be.

A few general thoughts:
I rewatched the game and realized that after just one play we had already seen:
  • By far the biggest gain of the night for either team. After ND's 54 (69 if you include the penalty) yard gain on the first play the next longest plays of the evening were a few ~30 yard passes.
  • More than a fifth of Notre Dame's total offense for the game. After the first play of 54 yards, Notre Dame gained only 199 yards on their other 47 plays.
  • Most of the game's excitement. In addition to there being no gains of more than 32 yards after the first play there were also no turnovers so it was a fairly quiet evening on the highlight front.
The fact that there were no plays in excess of 32 yards after the first play is both good and bad for Ohio State. Defensively of course it is good as the Buckeyes successfully prevented Notre Dame from hitting any more long plays.

Offensively it is not so good. A lot of people are happy with Stroud's 70+% completions but I always think that completion percentage needs to be viewed in light of what the QB in question is throwing. Last year Stroud completed 72% of his passes and averaged 10.1 yards per attempt and 14.0 yards per completion. Against Notre Dame Stroud completed about the same percentage but they were much shorter passes: 6.6 per attempt and 9.3 per completion.

That said, for the time being I am cautiously optimistic on both sides of the ball.

Offensively:
IMHO it took Day way too long to realize that he appears to have a powerful rushing attack but it appears to be there. Williams and Henderson averaged just over six yards per carry with a combined 29 for 175 and those figures aren't propped up by a few long ones as their longest carries were only 15 and 16 respectively.

The passing game was nowhere near what we saw last year and in the RoseBowl but Fleming missed the whole game and JSN might as well have missed the whole game. Down two top WR's the Buckeyes were still able to complete a lot of passes and convert a lot of third downs (7 of 13) but they didn't gain many yards for the number of completions/attempts.

Defensively:
You just have to give Notre Dame generally and Buchner/Styles credit for that first play. Buchner read tOSU's corner blitz and threw the ball to the spot vacated by the blitzing corner while facing significant pressure and about to be slammed. Styles made the grab and slipped a tackle and 54 yards later Notre Dame was in FG range less than a minute into the game. After that the Buckeyes put the clamps on. Notre Dame gained only two more yards on that drive and only 199 more yards the rest of the evening.


 

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