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Topic: #4 Michigan (8-1, 10-2) at #10 Ohio State (8-1, 11-1) Post Game

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Re: #4 Michigan (8-1, 10-2) at #10 Ohio State (8-1, 11-1) Post Game
« Reply #84 on: November 24, 2018, 04:47:04 PM »
The defense has been driven by pass rush. That disappeared after PSU. I want to know why it was 0.00% there versus Rutgers, Indiana and OSU.

What changed? Rashan came back. I don't think or want that to be the explanation. It seems so illogical. But that did mean we went away from the mid season Uche-ocalypse. Or maybe (more realistically), that's not the cause, just a random coincidence and Michigan was figured out before today and OSU fed off info buried in the Hoosier and Sc.Knight film that fans and talking heads haven't yet noticed.
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Re: #4 Michigan (8-1, 10-2) at #10 Ohio State (8-1, 11-1) Post Game
« Reply #85 on: November 24, 2018, 05:50:33 PM »
It’s just crazy to me that this rivalry has been anything but a rivalry since I lived overseas. Sadly, it’s been so long, my memory of that time of my life is fading. Short-term memory loss would be more preferable because this has been a recurring theme for a while now: Michigan looks like they’re back. Huge hype going into the game.. buckeyes wipe the floor with them. What was talked about the strength of Michigan has a total meltdown:
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Re: #4 Michigan (8-1, 10-2) at #10 Ohio State (8-1, 11-1) Post Game
« Reply #86 on: November 24, 2018, 06:22:03 PM »
Just got back from The Game. I'm such a happy camper right. WOW, what a performance by the Buckeyes.

I'm not liking the Offense Initiates Contact with the Defender to get a PI call. I saw both teams do it and it just seems poor.
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Re: #4 Michigan (8-1, 10-2) at #10 Ohio State (8-1, 11-1) Post Game
« Reply #87 on: November 24, 2018, 07:10:53 PM »
Quote from: TyphonInc on November 24, 2018, 06:22:03 PM
Just got back from The Game. I'm such a happy camper right. WOW, what a performance by the Buckeyes.

I'm not liking the Offense Initiates Contact with the Defender to get a PI call. I saw both teams do it and it just seems poor.
That's one of the reasons I like you.
You are objective more so than most.
I'm afraid it will catch on, but Urby has been doing it for years.
Worst "acting" I've seen in football other than kickers faking injuries after hits.
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Re: #4 Michigan (8-1, 10-2) at #10 Ohio State (8-1, 11-1) Post Game
« Reply #88 on: November 24, 2018, 07:31:13 PM »
The Urb remains undefeated as a Vegas underdog.
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Re: #4 Michigan (8-1, 10-2) at #10 Ohio State (8-1, 11-1) Post Game
« Reply #89 on: November 24, 2018, 08:53:18 PM »
And the revenge tour has been cancelled.
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Re: #4 Michigan (8-1, 10-2) at #10 Ohio State (8-1, 11-1) Post Game
« Reply #90 on: November 24, 2018, 11:30:41 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on November 24, 2018, 08:53:18 PM
And the revenge tour has been cancelled.
The revenge tour ends in The Shoe.
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Re: #4 Michigan (8-1, 10-2) at #10 Ohio State (8-1, 11-1) Post Game
« Reply #91 on: November 25, 2018, 05:53:31 AM »
The buckeyes’ OL won that game. Haskins had a clean pocket all day. On the other hand it seemed like Patterson was running for his life much of the time.
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Re: #4 Michigan (8-1, 10-2) at #10 Ohio State (8-1, 11-1) Post Game
« Reply #92 on: November 25, 2018, 06:45:02 AM »
The Revenge Tour swapped teams.

I was at the UGA game with my daughter.  Several times they put The Game on the Big Board (live cut in) and the crowd was cheering for OSU of course.

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Re: #4 Michigan (8-1, 10-2) at #10 Ohio State (8-1, 11-1) Post Game
« Reply #93 on: November 25, 2018, 09:24:33 AM »
I find solidarity with Michigan fans at least in one way - this "WTF is happening" feeling was something I felt strongly last year against Iowa.  Like, really, how is this happening?

Anyways, obviously the pass protection was absolutely spot on for the Bucks, which was probably the key to the game.  But also, Haskins seemed to repeatedly check into good looks, something he had a hard time doing earlier in the season (ahem, Penn State).  Being at home really helped here, because the line and Haskins seemed to have no communication problems at all.  A Haskins who can survey the field and get protection can carve up any defense, and carve up he did.

Defensively, it wasn't like they were great, but they made Michigan earn everything.  There were no huge busted coverages or gaps that led to long plays, and by making Michigan earn things they were able to make enough stuffs and sacks to get off the field.  

For Michigan's part, the defense never really had a chance.  Unable to get pressure with their line, the linebackers were stuck.  If they blitzed, the middle of the field was open, and if they dropped back in coverage, Haskins had time to find an open guy.  Offensively, I am surprised they didn't try and pick on OSU's corners more.  OSU's corners aren't great, the refs were flagging every breathe by both teams' DB's, and Michigan's receivers are big and fast and can catch.  Regardless, they wanted to run the ball and play defense like they always do, but the running wasn't quite good enough and the defense was way not good enough.  Like in the Notre Dame game, when they needed that extra gear, they didn't have it.  
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Re: #4 Michigan (8-1, 10-2) at #10 Ohio State (8-1, 11-1) Post Game
« Reply #94 on: November 25, 2018, 09:25:10 AM »
The Buckeyes put together a gameplan that worked flawlessly. Oh, and BTW, Paris Campbell can absolutely burn. He is fast. Ryan Day is head coach in waiting for somebody, even if it isn’t the Bucks. He’s a Tom Herman level play caller with more maturity and calmness to him.

A few things on Michigan:

The defense actually regressed when Rashan Gary came back. He either was playing very hurt or going throu the motions. I tend to think it might have been a bit of both. Rarely was he double teamed; he was just completely ineffective and brought the whole defensive front down for the better part of 4 games. I saw 3-4 plays he pretty much check out on the game yesterday. All in all a pretty average career for him. Guys like Bush and Winovich left it all out there. 

Don Brown will need to mix other schemes in throughout the year, even if you don’t need to. You can’t just switch to zone and expect guys to flow well in the middle of your rivalry game. The adjustment was necessary, but the result was largely the same because the personnel had no clue how to play it.

The offense should not be off the hook. I don’t understand the stubborn personnel groupings. McKeon (84) does nothing. He is a below avg blocker and is not a weapon in the reviving game in any way. More often than not he is keeping one of Black, Collins, or DPJ off the field. And who the heck was 43 and why was he out there??

All of the running success for teams against OSU to this point came in zone read, yet amichigan tires to go jumbo package and run power I, something they haven’t even been doing much of this year.

Absolutely bizarre gameplan and personnel decisions.
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Re: #4 Michigan (8-1, 10-2) at #10 Ohio State (8-1, 11-1) Post Game
« Reply #95 on: November 25, 2018, 09:27:18 AM »
The B1G seems to have a lot of teams that can be very good one week and pathetic the next, and then very good again.

I credit Rutger with being consistent.
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Re: #4 Michigan (8-1, 10-2) at #10 Ohio State (8-1, 11-1) Post Game
« Reply #96 on: November 25, 2018, 10:40:22 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on November 25, 2018, 06:45:02 AM
The Revenge Tour swapped teams.

I was at the UGA game with my daughter.  Several times they put The Game on the Big Board (live cut in) and the crowd was cheering for OSU of course.


folks in the south don't like Harbaugh?
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Re: #4 Michigan (8-1, 10-2) at #10 Ohio State (8-1, 11-1) Post Game
« Reply #97 on: November 25, 2018, 10:42:52 AM »
Michigan's offense didn't look good in this game obviously, but........ 39 points on the board should be enough to win or at least be within one score

it's like the teams swapped defenses for this game
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