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Topic: #3 Michigan (7-0, 10-0) at #11 Penn State (5-2, 8-2) Post Game

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Re: #3 Michigan (7-0, 10-0) at #11 Penn State (5-2, 8-2) Post Game
« Reply #56 on: November 11, 2023, 08:42:28 PM »
Quote from: Temp430 on November 11, 2023, 08:38:51 PM
Why would Michigan not throw the ball at all in the second half?  Very curious, I’ve never seen that before even back with Bo’s teams.  Even if Michigan wanted to pound the ball you’d think they’d throw a pass every now and then to keep the D honest.
they did the right thing man. Penn State is so bad on offense but so good on defense- literally the only way they could've lost that game is with a pick 6 or sack-fumble scoop and score.

chew clock, play defense, play the field position battle and minimize mistakes on the road in a hostile environment vs an elite defense worked.

can't even complain. that was a great TEAM win. JJ showed how much of a leader and team player he really is. lot of QB's would care about stats or winning a Heisman. he doesn't give a shit. he just cares about his TEAM and winning football games. this team is as closely knit and bonded and tight as any team I've ever seen. you get that many guys all playing together and for each other- great things can happen.

they take care of business next week on the road @ Maryland they'll head into Ann Arbor to close out the season vs Ohio State in an epic battle of two top 3 teams and winner takes all. can't ask for more. 
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Re: #3 Michigan (7-0, 10-0) at #11 Penn State (5-2, 8-2) Post Game
« Reply #57 on: November 11, 2023, 09:09:26 PM »
Quote from: Temp430 on November 11, 2023, 08:38:51 PM
Why would Michigan not throw the ball at all in the second half?  Very curious, I’ve never seen that before even back with Bo’s teams.  If Michigan wanted to pound the ball you’d think they’d throw a pass every now and then to keep the D honest.
They made an agreement with the NCAA. nCAA request.. to prove your sign program didn’t give you the advantage to win, you are not allowed to throw the ball the entire second half. Every single play must be a run. Go prove to us you can win when the opposition knows what play is coming every single time. 
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Re: #3 Michigan (7-0, 10-0) at #11 Penn State (5-2, 8-2) Post Game
« Reply #58 on: November 11, 2023, 09:17:14 PM »
Quote from: SuperMario on November 11, 2023, 09:09:26 PM
They made an agreement with the NCAA. nCAA request.. to prove your sign program didn’t give you the advantage to win, you are not allowed to throw the ball the entire second half. Every single play must be a run. Go prove to us you can win when the opposition knows what play is coming every single time.
in all seriousness that 2nd half vs Penn State in Happy Valley reminded me so much of the 2021 game vs Ohio State in Ann Arbor. Michigan said let me see how much of a man you are. Let me see how tough you are. And they just pushed Penn State's shit in up front with their OL and RB's and shoved it down their throats the entire 2nd half. Same thing as OSU in 2021. OSU knew what was coming and flat out couldn't stop it. Penn State knew what was coming and flat out couldn't stop it. 

It's so awesome to watch when an OL and RB's can just demoralize a defense and punk them out and smash them in the face and move them off the LOS and there's not a single fcking thing that defense can do about it. 

That is what football is at the end of the day. Always has been and always is going to be a battle of toughness. When an OL can just ram it down a defenses throat and run 30 times in a row and the defense can't stop it and they know it's coming- you're gonna win lot of games. 

This was really the first game all year and vs BY FAR the best defense they've seen all year where they really committed to the run game and the OL and RB's showed up big-time. On the road in one of the toughest places to play no less.
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Re: #3 Michigan (9-0, 6-0) at #11 Penn State (8-1, 5-1) Game Week
« Reply #59 on: November 12, 2023, 12:22:53 AM »
Quote from: MikeDeTiger on November 06, 2023, 03:43:13 PM
fwiw, I think Michigan is gonna throttle PSU.  I'm not a believer in the Nittany Lions.  I think they have a fine defense and are a good team.  I don't think they're a top-10 quality team (emphasis on 'quality', I'm not arguing they don't belong in the top ten of this year, right now) and I don't think they're going to make it particularly close. 

I could be wrong. 

Pfft....the score didn't have the separation I thought, but then I also thought Michigan had a coach and had discovered the forward pass. 

Like General Neyland said, only three things can happen when you throw the ball, and two of them are bad. 

Danged if it didn't feel like the throttling I was looking for, though.  Was a mudfight, but it never felt like PSU was in danger of winning.
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Re: #3 Michigan (7-0, 10-0) at #11 Penn State (5-2, 8-2) Post Game
« Reply #60 on: November 12, 2023, 07:00:00 AM »
Not sure what games you guys were watching. Michigan tried to run it down their throats and that mostly led to punts. If Allar didn't fumble it's a different looking game. It reminded me of I think the 2007 OSU-Michigan game where Michigan couldn't score so OSU just called the same play over and over and was happy to punt.
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Re: #3 Michigan (7-0, 10-0) at #11 Penn State (5-2, 8-2) Post Game
« Reply #61 on: November 12, 2023, 07:45:10 AM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on November 11, 2023, 09:17:14 PM
in all seriousness that 2nd half vs Penn State in Happy Valley reminded me so much of the 2021 game vs Ohio State in Ann Arbor. Michigan said let me see how much of a man you are. Let me see how tough you are. And they just pushed Penn State's shit in up front with their OL and RB's and shoved it down their throats the entire 2nd half. Same thing as OSU in 2021. OSU knew what was coming and flat out couldn't stop it. Penn State knew what was coming and flat out couldn't stop it.
Not IMHO it was just PSU installed Brian Ferentz offense kept handing the ball back and the D eventually got gassed.That 2021 thrashing was just what is underlined.Yesterday UM won the 2nd half 10-6,so no
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Re: #3 Michigan (7-0, 10-0) at #11 Penn State (5-2, 8-2) Post Game
« Reply #62 on: November 12, 2023, 09:34:40 AM »
Corum played his best game all year and Edwards finally got going a little bit with a couple explosive chunk runs. 

JJ used his legs effectively when needed to pick up huge first downs. They are an entirely different animal to defend when they incorporate his running ability into the offense. 

Edwards is still being widely underused. Only 10 carries today and they didn’t even try and get him involved in the passing game. He is such a weapon and they aren’t using him properly imo. He needs at least 15 carries a game and probably 5-6 pass attempts.
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Re: #3 Michigan (7-0, 10-0) at #11 Penn State (5-2, 8-2) Post Game
« Reply #63 on: November 12, 2023, 10:16:03 AM »
I checked Franklin’s wiki page to see what his middle name was.  Thought it might be Peter.
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Re: #3 Michigan (7-0, 10-0) at #11 Penn State (5-2, 8-2) Post Game
« Reply #64 on: November 12, 2023, 10:17:34 AM »
Quote from: Temp430 on November 12, 2023, 10:16:03 AM
I checked Franklin’s wiki page to see what his middle name was.  Thought it might be Peter.
I thought it'd be Moron. Or Pussy. 
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Re: #3 Michigan (7-0, 10-0) at #11 Penn State (5-2, 8-2) Post Game
« Reply #65 on: November 12, 2023, 02:25:25 PM »
Apparently PSU is bouncing Mike Yurcich to the unemployment line
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Re: #3 Michigan (7-0, 10-0) at #11 Penn State (5-2, 8-2) Post Game
« Reply #66 on: November 12, 2023, 02:42:00 PM »
Apparently Franklin thinks that might save his job
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Re: #3 Michigan (7-0, 10-0) at #11 Penn State (5-2, 8-2) Post Game
« Reply #67 on: November 12, 2023, 02:42:09 PM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on November 12, 2023, 02:25:25 PM
Apparently PSU is bouncing Mike Yurcich to the unemployment line
Might be a little bit of scapegoating going on.
If every offensive coordinator that Michigan rendered neutral was terminated, that would be a lot of unemployed coordinators.
On the other hand, it wasn’t just yesterday. That offense just never looked in sync this whole entire season. 
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Re: #3 Michigan (7-0, 10-0) at #11 Penn State (5-2, 8-2) Post Game
« Reply #68 on: November 12, 2023, 02:57:16 PM »
UM only scored 4 more pts than PSU in the 2nd half so they played keep away.Basically Tressel Ball,if they can't stop you and keep shooting themselves in the foot continuously why not?
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Re: #3 Michigan (7-0, 10-0) at #11 Penn State (5-2, 8-2) Post Game
« Reply #69 on: November 12, 2023, 03:20:22 PM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on November 12, 2023, 07:00:00 AM
Not sure what games you guys were watching. Michigan tried to run it down their throats and that mostly led to punts. If Allar didn't fumble it's a different looking game. It reminded me of I think the 2007 OSU-Michigan game where Michigan couldn't score so OSU just called the same play over and over and was happy to punt.

Sure, but the "what if" thing is a door that swings wide and lets all kind of unruly things in.  What Allar doesn't fumble?  What if Michigan didn't decide to play the game with one hand tied behind its back? 

Ymmv, but for me it was a major statement to go into Happy Valley, refuse to air it out, and just line up and say we're gonna run it again for 5.5 ypc, f*** all y'all, with no signals and no passes you still can't beat us. 

Despite the score it felt like Michigan had them all game and knew it, and had the other half of the arsenal waiting to go if needed, but it wasn't.  

Tell you what, if McCord is gonna play like THAT, the OSU/Mich game just got that much more interesting.  That's gonna be some must-see tv.  
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