2024 Michigan Season Thread

[Mdot21]

Definitely the same take Michigan fans had when Tressel and Pryor ducked out to avoid NCAA penalties for their cheating

barking up the wrong tree with me. I've always felt players should've been paid and handsomely- especially star ones like Pryor.

the sad thing is if all that was today he'd have just been able to get NIL deals for free tats, free cash, and free sh*t and nothing would've happened to Ohio State, Tressel, or Pryor at all.

Players should have always been able to be paid.

they are throwing a non-existent book at Harbaugh for some sort of dog and pony show to say look how tough we are- when in reality it is completely meaningless because he's in the NFL and he's not ever going back to college.

[ELA]

Not talking about you specifically.  Just talking about the high and mighty Michigan fans in 2012, who were like "well at least we lose clean...Leaders and Best."  Michigan's CWS was proven to be due to a coach paying players; their glory years of basketball, vacated; their NCAA football title, clearly due to cheating.

I also agree players should be paid.  I think any restrictions on NIL are dumb.

The rules are stupid.  But while most teams follow them, over and over, its been proven (USC, OSU, Auburn, Michigan) that those that don't benefit.  Michigan has proven it over and over that it's worth it to cheat, raise the banner, and then let the teams the follow suffer the consequences

[Honestbuckeye]

Not talking about you specifically.  Just talking about the high and mighty Michigan fans in 2012, who were like "well at least we lose clean...Leaders and Best."  Michigan's CWS was proven to be due to a coach paying players; their glory years of basketball, vacated; their NCAA football title, clearly due to cheating.

I also agree players should be paid.  I think any restrictions on NIL are dumb.

The rules are stupid.  But while most teams follow them, over and over, its been proven (USC, OSU, Auburn, Michigan) that those that don't benefit.  Michigan has proven it over and over that it's worth it to cheat, raise the banner, and then let the teams the follow suffer the consequences

Where did OSU break the rules and benefit?   I am missing that one. 

[SuperMario]

Not talking about you specifically.  Just talking about the high and mighty Michigan fans in 2012, who were like "well at least we lose clean...Leaders and Best."  Michigan's CWS was proven to be due to a coach paying players; their glory years of basketball, vacated; their NCAA football title, clearly due to cheating.

I was certainly one stating at least Michigan was clean because I had personal connections to someone/company owner that was paying osu players both under the table and on his company’s books, so I had a strong opinion on the fact it was more than just tattoos and I thought their run was dirty. To your point, Michigan’s basketball run probably had minimum as much as the tressel connections if not much more with the Fab Five.

That being said, it’s becoming hilarious how many keep telling themselves they only won a title last year because of cheating. If that’s true, then every reporter, including every bitter fan that was digging and digging the second half of the year to find any bit of cheating to close the year, yet found nothing must be the largest group of incompetent vigilantes ever. Or Michigan was simply the best team on the field and their championship was earned despite all the noise.

[Temp430]

NCAA hits Jim Harbaugh with a 4 year show cause penalty and one year suspension?  I guess they didn't get the memo that Jim's in the NFL now with an $80 million contract from the LA Chargers.

[Brutus Buckeye]

He'd better hope it goes well, or he'll be coaching the Edmonton Eskimos. 

[Mdot21]

He'd better hope it goes well, or he'll be coaching the Edmonton Eskimos.

doubtful. Jeem will get at the very least 3 years of his 5 year deal with the Chargers. That's like a worst case disaster scenario- everything goes wrong from A to Z. And the reality is- hate him or love him- let's be real here...dude is going to win in LA. He's a hell of a coach and he's already got the toughest part of the NFL gig taken care of because he lucked out that Justin Herbert is already there. NFL is ALL about the QB....and he's got one. A damn good, young, super talented one. Look at his track record....it's impeccable. Coaches small ball completely turns around USD to back to back 11-1 seasons, jumps to FBS and takes over the worst program in the entire sport and turns freaking Stanford into a 12-1 team. Goes to the NFL and overnight turns a 6-10 team that hadn't been to the playoffs in a decade into a winner that goes to 3 straight NFC championship games and a Super Bowl. Goes to Michigan and takes over a 5 win program that had been in the wilderness for nearly a decade and overnight turns them into a 10 win team and winds up eventually winning a Natty.

Even if it doesn't work out by some fluke- Jeem can just sit out for a couple years or get get a consultant job working for his brother John in Baltimore for a couple years then get rehired by a new NFL team. The NFL loves recycling retread loser coaches. For fcksake if freaking Dan Quinn or Raheem Morris can get head coaching jobs this year after their previous failures pretty sure Jeem will be able to get one.

[MrNubbz]

Not talking about you specifically.  Just talking about the high and mighty Michigan fans in 2012, who were like "well at least we lose clean...Leaders and Best."  Michigan's CWS was proven to be due to a coach paying players; their glory years of basketball, vacated; their NCAA football title, clearly due to cheating.

You counsel get a Yuengling

[MrNubbz]

He'd better hope it goes well, or he'll be coaching the Edmonton Eskimos.

That's funny - is there really such a squad? (w/o looking IDK)

[ELA]

That's funny - is there really such a squad? (w/o looking IDK)

Warren freakin Moon

[MrNubbz]

I was certainly one stating at least Michigan was clean because I had personal connections to someone/company owner that was paying osu players both under the table and on his company’s books, so I had a strong opinion on the fact it was more than just tattoos and I thought their run was dirty. To your point, Michigan’s basketball run probably had minimum as much as the tressel connections if not much more with the Fab Five.

That being said, it’s becoming hilarious how many keep telling themselves they only won a title last year because of cheating. If that’s true, then every reporter, including every bitter fan that was digging and digging the second half of the year to find any bit of cheating to close the year, yet found nothing must be the largest group of incompetent vigilantes ever. Or Michigan was simply the best team on the field and their championship was earned despite all the noise.

Yes because for 3 years that program built up it's roster with confidence and advantages that previously it didn't enjoy until the spy network was employed. It's hilarious that NFL defenses couldn't shut  down CJ Stroud who set all sorts of rookie records. Ah but due to the polished professionalism of head wound Harbaugh when he wasn't sleeping with recruits - somehow figured it all out. With help from the UofM staff, 3 of whom got fired and a certain HC suspended twice before bolting . It's a miracle I tell you - CJ was only the 5th rookie in NFL history to throw for over 4000 yds. But yes How dare those outside of Ann Arbor not acknowledge not only the credibility of it all but it's sheer brilliance

Harbaugh wouldn't lie - pure as the driven snow, even though it somehow slipped his mind to report the team captain toting fire arms until after the season. Who also bolted to the League and avoided any repercussions that came with it - after the season - almost seems like a trend

OK now i'm getting ready for the season

[Mdot21]

Yes because for 3 years that program built up it's roster with confidence and advantages that previously it didn't enjoy until the spy network was employed. It's hilarious that NFL defenses couldn't shut  down CJ Stroud who set all sorts of rookie records. Ah but due to the polished professionalism of head wound Harbaugh when he wasn't sleeping with recruits - somehow figured it all out. With help from the UofM staff, 3 of whom got fired and a certain HC suspended twice before bolting . It's a miracle I tell you - CJ was only the 5th rookie in NFL history to throw for over 4000 yds. But yes How dare those outside of Ann Arbor not acknowledge not only the credibility of it all but it's sheer brilliance

Harbaugh wouldn't lie - pure as the driven snow, even though it somehow slipped his mind to report the team captain toting fire arms until after the season. Who also bolted to the League and avoided any repercussions that came with it - after the season - almost seems like a trend

OK now i'm getting ready for the season

Lol.

Yeah I guess the NFL hasn't been and won't be drafting all these Michigan players from their '21 to '23 teams because of sIgNs. Amirite? Oh wait. No. They have been drafting them and they will continue to.

EDGE Kwity Paye - 1st round
EDGE Aidan Hutchinson - #2 overall (should've been the #1 pick but Jacksonville Jaguars gonna Jacksonville Jaguar)
EDGE David Ojabo - 2nd round (would've been a 1st rd pick if he didn't get injured at a workout right before the draft)
Nickel Dax Hill - 1st round
CB DJ Turner - 2nd round
Nickel Mikey Sainistril - 2nd round
DT Mazi Smith - 1st round
DL Mike Morris - 5th round (started only 10 games at Michigan, still got drafted)
DT Kris Jenkins - 2nd round
EDGE Jaylen Harrell - 7th round (split snaps at EDGE was never a full-time starter, still got drafted)
ILB Junior Colson - 3rd round
ILB Mike Barrett - 7th round
DT Mason Graham - lock to be a 1st round pick barring injury (knocks on wood)
CB Will Johnson - lock to be a 1st round pick barring injury (knocks on wood)
DT Kenneth Grant - he's....going to be a 1st rd pick....he's 6'4, 339 lbs and no one should be able to move like he does at that size.
ILB Ernest Hausmann - future NFL draft pick
FS Rod Moore - future NFL draft pick
SS Makari Paige - future NFL draft pick
EDGE Josaiah Stewart -  future NFL draft pick
EDGE Derrick Moore - future NFL draft pick

yeah you're totally right it's all just the signs and not the fact that they're very likely going to put out like 20 NFL draft picks on just defense over those teams and with 7 of them in the 1st round with potential for more and really should've had another 1st rounder because Ojabo was guaranteed 1st round til he tore his achilles in a workout a month before the draft. You know what F it, I'm counting Ojabo as a 1st rounder.

Jeem finally broke through for 3 reasons imo....

a) he started pumping out a lot more NFL talent on defense
b) he had FINALLY got himself a real life 1st round talent draft pick QB in JJ McCarthy who went 10th overall to the Vikings
c) Urban Meyer left Ohio State- when they lost Urbz they lost their identity as a tough as nails team that wins at the point of attack at LOS and with aggression in the front 7. Urbz won big at UF with that formula and he won big at OSU with it as well. Don't let the "spread offense" stuff fool you, Urbz is all about the LOS.

look at OSU's '21 to '23 teams....they haven't produced that kind of NFL talent on defense. SHITLOADS on offense, defense....not soooo much.

And even if JTT and Jack Sawyer get drafted high in the '25 draft (and I have my doubts that either will get drafted all that high) neither have been in the same universe as Aidan Hutchinson or Mason Graham imo. JTT had one amazing game vs Penn State and then.....crickets. Jack Sawyer is a really good player, just not a great one imo. He's more of a 2nd or 3rd pick than a top 5 pick like a Bosa or Young imo.

[Honestbuckeye]

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/wolverines/2024/08/08/michigan-football-arrests-scandals-sign-stealing/74706150007/?fbclid=IwY2xjawEhvIBleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHa0GCO5QldvtDFvFAYZ7UJFo-Cesd7va0M_BrdTKiinGoLysjw_i8nK9_A_aem_6OYKhI3-A9-0HKaLrTofHQ


Funny.     

[Brutus Buckeye]

doubtful. Jeem will get at the very least 3 years of his 5 year deal with the Chargers. That's like a worst case disaster scenario- everything goes wrong from A to Z. And the reality is- hate him or love him- let's be real here...dude is going to win in LA. He's a hell of a coach and he's already got the toughest part of the NFL gig taken care of because he lucked out that Justin Herbert is already there. NFL is ALL about the QB....and he's got one. A damn good, young, super talented one. Look at his track record....it's impeccable. Coaches small ball completely turns around USD to back to back 11-1 seasons, jumps to FBS and takes over the worst program in the entire sport and turns freaking Stanford into a 12-1 team. Goes to the NFL and overnight turns a 6-10 team that hadn't been to the playoffs in a decade into a winner that goes to 3 straight NFC championship games and a Super Bowl. Goes to Michigan and takes over a 5 win program that had been in the wilderness for nearly a decade and overnight turns them into a 10 win team and winds up eventually winning a Natty.

Even if it doesn't work out by some fluke- Jeem can just sit out for a couple years or get get a consultant job working for his brother John in Baltimore for a couple years then get rehired by a new NFL team. The NFL loves recycling retread loser coaches. For fcksake if freaking Dan Quinn or Raheem Morris can get head coaching jobs this year after their previous failures pretty sure Jeem will be able to get one.

He only got 4 years with SF, and he took them to three straight NFC championship games and a Super Bowl. 

No way he gets 3 if everything goes wrong from A to Z.