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Topic: OT - Underappreciated Movies

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Re: OT - Underappreciated Movies
« Reply #280 on: April 22, 2024, 04:21:33 PM »
well, I never appreciated Star Wars much.
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« Reply #281 on: April 22, 2024, 04:47:17 PM »
well, I never appreciated Star Wars much.
Thats just because your brain is frozen from all those Iowa winters
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« Reply #282 on: April 22, 2024, 05:12:11 PM »
Thats just because your brain is frozen from all those Iowa winters
He drinks way too much antifreeze to have brain freeze.
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Re: OT - Underappreciated Movies
« Reply #283 on: April 22, 2024, 05:16:44 PM »
"The Deer Hunter" (1978): A Haunting Masterpiece on the Scars of War - "The Deer Hunter," released in 1978, stands as a monumental achievement in American cinema. Directed by Michael Cimino, this epic war drama intricately details the harrowing impact of the Vietnam War on the lives of three Slavic-American steelworkers. This film not only challenges the norms of the war movie genre but also delves deeply into the personal and societal upheavals faced by those it portrays.

The story is rooted in Clairton, Pennsylvania, a quintessential working-class town along the Monongahela River. Here, life is simple, and the community is tight-knit. The early scenes of the film are imbued with a sense of camaraderie and local culture, encapsulating the serene pre-war lives of the main characters. Michael Cimino uses this peaceful setting as a stark juxtaposition to the chaotic backdrop of war that follows, effectively setting the emotional tone of the film.

As the narrative unfolds, viewers are transported from the steel mills of Pennsylvania to the unpredictable dangers of Vietnam. The transition is not just a change of setting, but a profound transformation in the lives of the three friends - Mike Vronsky (Robert De Niro), Steven Pushkov (John Savage), and Nick Chevotarevich (Christopher Walken). Their journey into the heart of darkness is marked by a dramatic shift from their laborious yet predictable daily routines to the brutal realities of war.

Central to the film's narrative is the controversial game of Russian roulette. The inclusion of Russian roulette as a recurring motif in the movie has been a subject of debate regarding its historical accuracy. However, its symbolic presence in the film is undeniable. It represents the cruel randomness of war and the psychological torment faced by soldiers. This stark metaphor serves to heighten the tension and highlight the stark contrasts between moments of calm and periods of intense conflict.

"The Deer Hunter" was fraught with challenges during its production. Originally based on a screenplay about Las Vegas gamblers, the concept underwent significant revisions to incorporate the theme of Russian roulette within the Vietnam War. This change not only amplified the dramatic intensity of the film but also embedded a deeper narrative complexity.

The production of the film was notoriously difficult, going significantly over-budget and over-schedule. Yet, these challenges contributed to the film’s depth and authenticity, capturing the gritty realities of war and its aftermath on a personal level. This authenticity was bolstered by the director's insistence on shooting in real locations and using a cast that embodied the characters’ physical and emotional demands.

Upon its release, "The Deer Hunter" received critical acclaim for its powerful direction, compelling performances, and its unflinching portrayal of war's impact on human relationships. The film grossed $49 million at the box office and secured five Academy Awards, including Best Picture and Best Director. However, it also faced criticism for its portrayal of the Vietnamese and the use of Russian roulette, which some claimed lacked historical basis.

Despite these controversies, "The Deer Hunter" has been recognized for its artistic merits and its profound reflection on the themes of friendship, loss, and the random brutality of war. It has been included in the United States National Film Registry, being cited as "culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant."

Today, "The Deer Hunter" remains a significant reference point for discussions about cinematic portrayals of war. It is studied for its narrative structure, character development, and its impact on audience perceptions of historical events. The film’s ability to convey deep personal loss and existential despair continues to resonate with audiences, making it a perennial subject in discussions of film and history.

"The Deer Hunter" challenges viewers to confront uncomfortable truths about the nature of conflict and the human condition. Its portrayal of the transformation of ordinary Americans into soldiers, and the scars they carry home, serves as a powerful reminder of the personal costs of war. As we reflect on this film, it compels us to consider how war reshapes identities, friendships, and communities.

This in-depth exploration aims to provide a clearer understanding of why "The Deer Hunter" is considered a landmark in cinematic history. It invites us to revisit the film not just as a source of entertainment but as a profound commentary on the impact of war on the human spirit.


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Re: OT - Underappreciated Movies
« Reply #284 on: April 22, 2024, 05:20:12 PM »
I will probably buy and try the Blue Milk.  

But I'm a total Star Wars geek, so no surprise there.

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« Reply #285 on: April 22, 2024, 11:25:27 PM »
I will probably buy and try the Blue Milk. 

But I'm a total Star Wars geek, so no surprise there.
Just buy some Lucky Charms and only eat the warm-colored marshmallows.  Blue milk!
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« Reply #286 on: April 27, 2024, 11:38:30 AM »
As a teenager, Jacob Cohen started in stand-up comedy and changed his name to Jack Roy. After nine years, he quit show business. When he returned in 1962, he wanted to change his name to distance himself from his previous failure. A club owner gave him the name of "Rodney Dangerfield" after Ricky Nelson used the name in an episode of "The Adventures of Ozzie and Harriet." But Jack Roy remained his legal name for the rest of his life. One night, he saw an older, low-level gangster complaining about how young people gave him "no respect, no respect at all," and he never forgot it.

"I had this joke: 'I played hide and seek; they wouldn't even look for me.' To make it work better, you look for something to put in front of it: 'I was so poor, I was so dumb,' so this, so that. I thought, '"Now what fits that joke?'" Well, 'No one liked me' was all right. But then I thought, 'A more profound thing would be, 'I get no respect!'"

According to Chris Nashawaty's book "Caddyshack," Dangerfield was so unaccustomed to how films were made, Harold Ramis had to gently guide him through the 1980 film to make sure he was comfortable. The first scene Dangerfield was in, the pro shop scene, was ready to go and Ramis called "Action." Nothing happened. Dangerfield just stood there. Ramis asked him if there was a problem. Was he ready? "Sure," Dangerfield said. Ramis called "Action" again. Again, nothing. Ramis walked over to him and said "Rodney, when I call 'Action,' that's your cue to come in and do the scene." "You mean, do my bit?" "Yes, do your bit." Ramis called "Action" for a third time. Silence. He then said "OK, Rodney, now do your bit." Dangerfield pounced into the room and delivered a perfect take, even improvising the line about getting a free bowl of soup. From then on, whenever Dangerfield was in a scene, Ramis never said "Action." He just said, "OK, Rodney, do your bit."

The noises that the gopher makes in the film are actually vocalized by a dolphin, and the dolphin sound effects used are the same ones that were used for Flipper on the TV show of the same name.


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« Reply #287 on: April 27, 2024, 11:58:12 AM »
He drinks way too much antifreeze to have brain freeze.
Brain farts perhaps never brain freeze
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« Reply #288 on: April 27, 2024, 12:19:14 PM »
He then said "OK, Rodney, now do your bit." Dangerfield pounced into the room and delivered a perfect take, even improvising the line about getting a free bowl of soup. From then on, whenever Dangerfield was in a scene, Ramis never said "Action." He just said, "OK, Rodney, do your bit."
I still think some classic lines were delivered by Chevy Chase when he's practicing at nite before the big match with Smails. When he smacks the ball to into cover at the base of the tree and he's fumbling around trying to find it. Then comes up with a ball "Titleist ya it's mine" like it would be anyone elses. Or when he drills the ball into Karl's maintenance shack and finds it in his take out of fried chicken and asks - "can I have a ruling on this" damn things were a blast back then
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Re: OT - Underappreciated Movies
« Reply #289 on: April 27, 2024, 03:23:01 PM »
one of my favorite RD lines:

I went to a bar the other night.  They told me I had to leave......it was happy hour.
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