2024 Michigan Season Thread

[ELA]

Agreed.

Although I doubt how well he’d do as an HC of a major program. He hates recruiting and he’s not good at it. That’s kind of important for a college head coach- being able to recruit.

I think he’s a hell of a RB coach. And that’s probably his ceiling until he embraces recruiting and becomes at least above average at it. He’s terrible at it as is.

I don't know.  I think it's ok if you have a track record of success as a head coach.  I've talked to him.  He's uncomfortable in social situations.  But he's not awkward, he's just shy.  I think if you have a brand to sell, you can get by with shy.  But at this point, if you are a high major OC, you have to be a play caller or a recruiter.  He's currently neither.

Sherrone Moore was an OL.  OL are like catchers in baseball.  Those are the guys that absolutely have to understand the game, and why they make great coaches even without being great playcallers, because they have an elite understanding of everything.  But he needs to nail his OC/DC hires, and I don't see an internal promotion that accomplishes that.

A guy I would kick the tires on for OC is Jim Zebrowski.  He's been Lance Leipold's go to OC at multiple stops, including the last 3 years at Kansas.  Kansas was #9 in the FBS in rushing yards per game, and #2 among P5 schools.  They run an offense that I think would immediately work at Michigan.  Clearly prioritizing running the ball, but also using the QB in the run game in select areas.  Jason Bean averaged 4 carries per game, at 6.0 ypc, for 280 rushing yards.  But they also had three different RBs averaging 6+ ypc on 45+ carries

[SuperMario]

But at this point, if you are a high major OC, you have to be a play caller or a recruiter.  He's currently neither.

What am I missing here? Why are multiple people saying he's not a good play caller? Where has he ever been a play caller?

[ELA]

Nobody is saying he's a bad playcaller, just that he's never done it.  And he's a proven bad recruiter.  You can let a good recruiter learn on the fly, but if you learn Hart is neither, that sets Michigan back

[Mdot21]

Nobody is saying he's a bad playcaller, just that he's never done it.  And he's a proven bad recruiter.  You can let a good recruiter learn on the fly, but if you learn Hart is neither, that sets Michigan back

exactly this. he's never done it before PLUS he's a poor recruiter. which means there's no reason to hire him. now if he was like just an unreal whale of a kick ass ace recruiter like say OSU's Brian Hartline- then by all means- let him give it a go and try to learn on the job. but....he's not. he sucks at recruiting. there is literally no reason to hire him and no way in hell Sherrone Moore can make that move if he wants to be set up for success.

Kirk Campbell would be the guy to get promoted if they were going in-house. Campbell has previous OC/play-calling experience at two previous jobs, he's a very good recruiter, and he's been heavily involved in game-planning the passing game and pass play-calling at Michigan. Hart has literally none of this going for him. He's never been an OC or play caller. He's a terrible recruiter. And he wasn't involved in the game-planning/play-calling to anywhere near the same degree as Campbell has been in his time at Michigan.

[Mdot21]

per Pro Football Talk,  LA Chargers gave Jeem a $16 million per year deal base salary. no doubt there are likely incentives to potentially push that figure even higher for winning AFC West, making AFC Chip, Super Bowl, etc., etc..

A cool $3.5 million more per year than Michigan was offering Jeem.

[FearlessF]

and now he has an off-season to spend some of it

[Mdot21]

and now he has an off-season to spend some of it

yup. being a college coach SUCKS hard right now. non-stop year round recruiting of snot nosed high school kids and now you have to deal with NIL/Portal bullshit and do appearances and help NIL collectives fund-raise and re-recruit kids on your roster to keep them happy and not hitting the portal- and then have to recruit in the portal to find kids that can plug holes here and there. not to mention you have the NCAA breathing down your neck over cheeseburgers and other stupid random bullshit. direction this is all going with realignment/NIL/portal is a large part why Saban said PEACE out and decided to retire rather than keep going at it.

[MrNubbz]

yup. being a college coach SUCKS hard right now. non-stop year round recruiting of snot nosed high school kids and now you have to deal with NIL/Portal bullshit and do appearances and help NIL collectives fund-raise and re-recruit kids

Well at least Jeem could have  raffled off his booger caked ballcap to help raise NIL Funds in Ann Arbor

[Mdot21]

Well at least Jeem could have raffled off his booger caked ballcap to help raise NIL Funds in Ann Arbor

he's no longer a university employee. as far as I know he can donate to Michigan NIL collectives all he wants. would be pretty baller if he decided to donate a cool $1 mil. believe that CJ Stroud just donated $1 mil to an OSU NIL collective.

[Mdot21]

Sherrone Moore had been going after Jim Leonhard and Ravens staffer Zach Orr to be his DC's apparently. Ravens promoted Orr to DC and sounds like Leonhard has told Moore no and that he's looking for an NFL job. Not great. Moore was also going after an ND staffer apparently to be his new recruiting co-ordinator and the guy is staying at ND as well.

Moore hasn't made any official hires outside of promoting TE's coach Grant Newsome to OL coach and assistant S&C coach Justin Tress to head S&C coach. Dude needs to solidify his staff here ASAP and hit the 'crootin' trail hard.

[847badgerfan]

Leonhard turned down Bama and the Green Bay Packers. And countless others.

He's staying in Madison until his kids are grown, in my view.

He's an analyst for Bert right now, and mostly works from home. He was not a recruiter while DC at Wisconsin. He loves his family. He's only 41. If he stays in the game while working as an analyst, he'll be in demand in 6-7 years when he's ready.

And even then, it's probably NFL. Recruiting is just not him.

[Mdot21]

Michigan expected to promote QB's coach Kirk Campbell to OC. Don't hate it, but not sure I love it. He's been an OC at two previous stops before at the small ball levels, and JJ McCarthy had been raving about the guy all off-season. He is young and energetic and has a great rep on the trail as a recruiter. He pretty much single-handedly revived Michigan's chances in the Bryce Underwood recruitment and made it a real battle- and that one was DOA/non-existent under former QB's coach Matt Weiss. 

I think he should do well, but still think they should've went after a big fish like Joe Moorhead or Dan Mullen and tried to run that power spread offense with Alex Orji those two are known for. 

[Mdot21]

https://twitter.com/JordanStrack/status/1754895580474622331?s=20

[Mdot21]

sounds like Jeem is poaching DL coach Mike Elston and bringing him to the Chargers. That's a blow. Elston is OK as a recruiter, not great, but not terrible. Adequate recruiter, but he's a phenomenal DL coach. Best DL coach that Jeem has had at Michigan by far.

Man this one stings. Jeem can eat a bag of d*cks right now. He's officially on my sh*t list.