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Topic: 2023 Ohio State Season Thread

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SuperMario

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Re: 2023 Ohio State Season Thread
« Reply #224 on: November 28, 2023, 05:51:25 PM »
Pessimistically wouldn't most average CFB QB's look pretty good throwing to Harrison and Egbuka?
This is the common question in my OSU circle. Marvin would make anyone look good. Reminds me of watching someone as a kid that wore scarlet and gray named Eddie at RB. Some guys are so talented, no matter what they wear, you have to be in awe and enjoy watching them play. 

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Re: 2023 Ohio State Season Thread
« Reply #225 on: November 28, 2023, 05:57:20 PM »
Well that's how McCord got offered - he and MARV both starred on the same High School Team in Pa. Think they won the State Championship together
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Re: 2023 Ohio State Season Thread
« Reply #226 on: November 28, 2023, 06:38:03 PM »
well, that's damning as HELL

of all people, he should know to throw it up to Marv!!!

Holy Sheep shit

it's on the O-coordinator!!!
hang 'em high!!!
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Re: 2023 Ohio State Season Thread
« Reply #227 on: November 28, 2023, 06:48:39 PM »
McCord was a higher rated recruit that Harrison

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Re: 2023 Ohio State Season Thread
« Reply #228 on: November 28, 2023, 07:08:51 PM »
McCord is not bad. He's a pretty good B1G QB. He's just not elite. Not sure he ever will be. And that's OK.

1st rd NFL QB's like the CJ Stroud's, Justin Fields', and Dwayne Haskins' (RIP) don't grow on trees. Even though it seemed like it for like 5-6 years there at Ohio State.

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Re: 2023 Ohio State Season Thread
« Reply #229 on: November 28, 2023, 07:40:41 PM »
McCord was a higher rated recruit that Harrison
hah, apparently Chubba Purdy was a higher ranked recruit than his brother Brock
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Re: 2023 Ohio State Season Thread
« Reply #230 on: November 28, 2023, 09:34:24 PM »
McCord was a higher rated recruit that Harrison
You just blew my mind

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Re: 2023 Ohio State Season Thread
« Reply #231 on: November 28, 2023, 11:25:38 PM »
You just blew my mind
yeah kinda crazy, although MHJR was a top 100 recruit I believe. 

Looking back, seems like a miss. How was this guy not a OMERRRG 5 STARZZZZ top 5 type ‘croot?

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Re: 2023 Ohio State Season Thread
« Reply #232 on: November 29, 2023, 12:23:18 AM »
yeah kinda crazy, although MHJR was a top 100 recruit I believe.

Looking back, seems like a miss. How was this guy not a OMERRRG 5 STARZZZZ top 5 type ‘croot?

Fleming was the can’t miss WR recruit. I think he was a #1 or 2 overall recruit in the country.

Marv looks so dang effortless on the field. Reminds me of Moss. Looks like he is going 80%, but still blowing by guys.

I came away from Saturday thinking the Buckeye D Line was waaay better than I had anticipated. But the LB’s opposite

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Re: 2023 Ohio State Season Thread
« Reply #233 on: November 29, 2023, 05:17:53 AM »
Harrison declare for the draft yet?  He would be crazy not to and risk a career ending injury without the big NFL payday.  Probably should sit out the bowl game too.
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Re: 2023 Ohio State Season Thread
« Reply #234 on: November 29, 2023, 06:23:57 AM »
Fleming was the can’t miss WR recruit. I think he was a #1 or 2 overall recruit in the country.

Marv looks so dang effortless on the field. Reminds me of Moss. Looks like he is going 80%, but still blowing by guys.

I came away from Saturday thinking the Buckeye D Line was waaay better than I had anticipated. But the LB’s opposite
Accurate.  Give Michigan coaching staff a lot of Credit here.  They could see on passing downs that the Ohio State linebackers were dropping quite way back.  That’s great for preventing big plays down field, but Michigan took advantage by hitting Colston Loveland underneath quite a few times 

Other than that the linebackers played extremely well on the run with one exception.

I have watched several versions of film study of the game and on the Blake Corum touchdown right after Minter got hurt, Chambers decided to abandon his assignment and gamble, and he followed the motion back and filled the wrong gap on the left side of the defense. ( which was already filled by Eichenberg) Corum went waltzing through the A gap untouched Leaving him one on one with a safety.  Good luck on that lol 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhzeUYHsmdw

Overall, the linebackers played a good game against the run, except for that one play.  But Michigan made no such mistakes, which is why Henderson never got completely loose.  They are well coached, veteran team that made very few mistakes.  As I said, you just tip your hat.  I have been watching Michigan and Ohio State film study throughout this season and that’s why I have been saying Michigan is the best team. They simply don’t make big mistakes very often. 

But Eichenberg in particular is an excellent linebacker and that’s why he was voted by both the coaches and the media as the Big Ten linebacker of the year.

if you watch the film of mCCarthy’s beautiful, threaded pass to Roman Wilson for the touchdown, you will notice something.  First off, Ohio State got great pressure on mCCarthy and he got drilled just as he let go of the ball.  His pass was beautiful and perfectly threaded. But Malik Hartford- a true freshman player ( he is going to be a good one, as he passed several more experienced players on the depth chart) was in for one play the entire game. It was that play. 

Knowles had OSU in the perfect defense for that play.  Man coverage with a “ robber” safety- his only job is to stay deep, face the quarterback, and react to wherever the ball was going. As a robber, you are taught to never turn your back on the quarterback, until or unless the ball is already in the air.  But as Wilson and Denzel Burke were going by him ( Burke was right in Wilson’s pocket)
tthe freshman Hartford panicked And turned his back to the quarterback. Just as he did, that ball went right over his shoulder pad, and into Wilson’s hands.  If he had just stayed






there and not moved or not turned his back, the ball would’ve hit him right in the chest for an easy interception. 

Again, one team panicked on that play and made a mistake which went against their training, and the other team executed.    Have to give credit. 


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Re: 2023 Ohio State Season Thread
« Reply #235 on: November 29, 2023, 07:11:43 AM »
McCord is not bad. He's a pretty good B1G QB. He's just not elite. Not sure he ever will be. And that's OK.

1st rd NFL QB's like the CJ Stroud's, Justin Fields', and Dwayne Haskins' (RIP) don't grow on trees. Even though it seemed like it for like 5-6 years there at Ohio State.
Of course when you lose “the game” everybody in town wants to murder the coach in the quarterback.
but McCord actually had a “decent game.”

he made some beautiful throws but he also had a couple of clunkers and and missed a couple reads that could’ve been large gains or even touchdowns.

https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2023/11/143491/breaking-down-kyle-mccords-performance-from-ohio-states-loss-to-michigan-in-ann-arbor

He made one huge mistake on that first interception though. it was an RPO, and he correctly read the linebacker, who played the run. 
But the attempted pass to Marvin should’ve been thrown in the dirt.  Will Johnson could afford to be aggressive and step inside because he had safety coverage over the top. 

Here again, you have to give some credit to the Michigan coaching staff or running coverages to handle Marvin that are more often seen in NFL games versus college games.  it took a while for McCord and Ryan Day to figure it out.  Once they did, they started finding success    Day actually dialed up som clever plays in the pass game.  Unfortunately on a number of those McCord didn’t pick up the deep and open player 

His first year starting, in that environment- all in he did decent.  The second interception was not on him at all as Donovan Jackson got blown up by Harrell and hit McCord as he threw.  we will never know but in the film study, it sure looks like he had Marvin Harrison open and potentially for a touchdown as he was splitting the Michigan safeties     


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Re: 2023 Ohio State Season Thread
« Reply #236 on: November 29, 2023, 11:09:20 AM »
McCord is solid, good QB, but it's pretty obvious to me that Ryan Day made a mistake taking him over JJ McCarthy.

McCarthy is just more talented and a much better athlete. It'd be scary to see what he could become in that system being coached by Ryan Day and throwing to those WR's. Jeem's system isn't very QB friendly and while Michigan has great RB's and TE's- their WR's are kinda meh outside Roman Wilson who I think is very good- but still nowhere near MHJR or even Emeka Egbuka.

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Re: 2023 Ohio State Season Thread
« Reply #237 on: November 29, 2023, 11:11:04 AM »
McCord is solid, good QB, but it's pretty obvious to me that Ryan Day made a mistake taking him over JJ McCarthy.

McCarthy is just more talented and a much better athlete. It'd be scary to see what he could become in that system being coached by Ryan Day and throwing to those WR's. Jeem's system isn't very QB friendly and while Michigan has great RB's and TE's- their WR's are kinda meh outside Roman Wilson who I think is very good- but still nowhere near MHJR or even Emeka Egbuka.
I was very impressed by JJ in the game.  
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