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Topic: 2023 Ohio State Season Thread

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Re: 2023 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #28 on: January 08, 2023, 12:22:12 PM »
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Re: 2023 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #29 on: January 08, 2023, 12:38:13 PM »
We're talking about booster donations here - not overall revenue. Overall has zero to do with NIL, as the schools cannot directly buy players.

USC has boosters OSU could only dream of. They have so much money, even the band members and cheerleaders get paid. They also travel to every road game.

Trust me. OSU isn't even close to USC's booster level. It's them and ND, and then the rest.
Booster donations are counted as part of the football revenues. Ohio State football has literally nearly double the yearly revenues of USC football. The TV contracts and ticket sales alone wouldn't account for double. I would bet my left nut that Ohio State also has a lot more in donations to the football program than USC does.

You're kidding yourself if you don't think there are insanely wealthy people that love and donate to Ohio State football. 'Cause there are. Lots of them.

USC football is a poor. One of the many reasons why they are jumping ship from the PAC and joining the B1G.

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Re: 2023 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #30 on: January 08, 2023, 12:49:03 PM »
https://usatodayhss.com/2023/5-star-brandon-inniss-turned-down-nil-deals-to-play-for-ohio-state-buckeyes

In the days of flip-flopping commitments and programs making loud moves in the recruiting game while dangling the NIL deals that now seemingly carry just as much weight as stadiums and campuses and playing time, Brandon Inniss sidestepped the trend and let the bandwagon move along.
The 5-star American Heritage (Fla.) standout said that he passed up possible lucrative NIL deals late in his recruiting process, all of which were efforts to get the talented receiver to change his mind about joining the Ohio State Buckeyes.It was a decision, as Inniss told 247Sports while speaking at the All-American Bowl check-in, that came down to a long-tail perspective that goes well beyond Saturdays at The Horseshoe.

“Do you take the money now or do you get developed to be the best you can be, and in the long run you’ll earn more money and be more ready and developed by the time you get to the NFL?”
Miami boosters are throwing huge money into NIL desperate to try buy players to win, and they still suck and they still can't keep 5* local talents like Innis home. Lol. 

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Re: 2023 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #31 on: January 08, 2023, 01:45:17 PM »
Booster donations are counted as part of the football revenues. Ohio State football has literally nearly double the yearly revenues of USC football. The TV contracts and ticket sales alone wouldn't account for double. I would bet my left nut that Ohio State also has a lot more in donations to the football program than USC does.

You're kidding yourself if you don't think there are insanely wealthy people that love and donate to Ohio State football. 'Cause there are. Lots of them.

USC football is a poor. One of the many reasons why they are jumping ship from the PAC and joining the B1G.
Not at most schools they don't. They go straight to the Foundation, which distributes.

And don't bet your nuts, unless you don't need 'em anymore.

USC is not poor in anything. They just see a better opportunity to get off of a sinking ship.






As for the "double" thing, welp, you tell me. Looks like more than double, yes?


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Re: 2023 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #32 on: January 08, 2023, 01:54:25 PM »
Not at most schools they don't. They go straight to the Foundation, which distributes.

And don't bet your nuts, unless you don't need 'em anymore.

USC is not poor in anything. They just see a better opportunity to get off of a sinking ship.






As for the "double" thing, welp, you tell me. Looks like more than double, yes?



From what I can gather, the donations directly to the football program are counted as part of a football programs revenues. 

Also, a universities endowment does not = football programs wealth or power. Sure USC might have an impressive university endowment fund, but that has little to do with the football program. 

USC football brings in roughly $73 million a year in revenue, which is good for 23rd place in CFB. That might as well make it a poor when you are talking about the major heavy weights of the sport. Ohio State is at nearly $140 million in revenues. Almost double USC but not quite. 

That graph/chart is not specific. What is it? TV money per conference school? Or average revenue per conference school? 

If it's TV money, that's what $27 million more per school? Give USC an additional $27 million. They are still like $40 million short of the total revenues Ohio St brings in. The difference is probably in....donations. Ohio St is likely bringing in a lot more in donations to the football program. Which would make sense. It's got a way bigger fan base, alumni base, enrollment base, and it's just a much larger national brand. 

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Re: 2023 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #33 on: January 08, 2023, 02:42:42 PM »
OSU gets about $60 Million for football season tickets.

USC gets about $20 Million.
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Re: 2023 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #34 on: January 08, 2023, 02:45:22 PM »
:o WHAT ???  I know it's outrageous but Dayum
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Re: 2023 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #35 on: January 08, 2023, 02:47:07 PM »
OSU gets about $60 Million for football season tickets.

USC gets about $20 Million.
right...and that goes back to donations. you have to donate to get the season tickets....the more you donate...the better seats you get. OSU getting loooooot more in donations appears like.

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Re: 2023 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #36 on: January 08, 2023, 02:48:27 PM »
At USC you can walk up on gameday and get a ticket. At OSU, you get on a list and wait 10 years to get a ticket.

HUGE difference there.

OSU tickets are double the price of USC.

Not to mention USC pulls in about 60K people while OSU pulls in 105K. Demand matters.
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Re: 2023 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #37 on: January 08, 2023, 02:49:28 PM »
right...and that goes back to donations. you have to donate to get the season tickets....the more you donate...the better seats you get. OSU getting loooooot more in donations appears like.
I'm not counting donations in those figures. Ticket revenue only.

Haven't we f'd up the OSU thread enough though?
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Re: 2023 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #38 on: January 08, 2023, 03:12:50 PM »
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Re: 2023 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #39 on: January 08, 2023, 03:14:09 PM »
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Re: 2023 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #40 on: January 08, 2023, 04:54:27 PM »
Miami boosters are throwing huge money into NIL desperate to try buy players to win, and they still suck and they still can't keep 5* local talents like Innis home. Lol.
Miami's NIL program is extremely efficient, cohesive, and well thought-out.  They don't have as much money as other schools but they got ahead of the curve figuring out how to implement an effective and comprehensive NIL program.

The only school that has done it better so far, is Oregon, and that's solely because Phil Knight has dedicated an entire arm of Nike to running the NIL on behalf of Oregon.  He started preparing the moment the first legislation was even proposed, and was completely ready to go as soon as the legislation was enacted.  


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Re: 2023 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #41 on: January 08, 2023, 05:29:39 PM »
Miami's NIL program is extremely efficient, cohesive, and well thought-out.  They don't have as much money as other schools but they got ahead of the curve figuring out how to implement an effective and comprehensive NIL program.

The only school that has done it better so far, is Oregon, and that's solely because Phil Knight has dedicated an entire arm of Nike to running the NIL on behalf of Oregon.  He started preparing the moment the first legislation was even proposed, and was completely ready to go as soon as the legislation was enacted. 
Phil Knight is the only reason Oregon has a semi legit football program as it is. He's poured who knows how many millions into that program over the last 20 years. Could be hundreds of millions and it wouldn't shock me. Still doesn't have a natty to show for it. Seems like a terrible investment. 

Oregon is gonna be screwed once he croaks. Dude has to be close to 90. He's old as dirrrrt. He'd have been better off just buying an NFL team with his billions. 

 

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