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Topic: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread

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847badgerfan

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1876 on: March 19, 2024, 03:03:37 PM »
Interesting. Not much coverage down here either, but football is king by a long shot. A VERY long shot.
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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1877 on: March 19, 2024, 03:46:40 PM »
As a side-semi-off-topic....

I am actually somewhat annoyed that OSU didn't get in.  Not that I think they deserved to get in, just that the radio coverage sucks.

I live in the Columbus area.  97.1 The Fan is the Columbus area sports radio station.  They are obviously, very OSU centric.  I accept that......but...

Here we are, the week of March Madness, what many consider to be the biggest American sporting event of the year (or at worst, #2 behind the Super Bowl).

And when I turn on the radio every morning and every evening for my commute to / from work, what is the station covering this week?

OSU spring practice.  NFL draft.  NFL trades.  OSU women's basketball.  Spring Break stories.

They have talked about men's college basketball over the last 3 weeks more than average, but 95% concerned Holtman getting fired and whether Diebler should have been hired.

Otherwise.....nothing.  March Madness may as well just not exist.  Maybe my commute is just always at a time they never discuss it, but's it's been this way for months now.  The week of the Super Bowl, they spent about 60 to 75% of their time covering it.  I get that they have a demographic that they are appealing to, but it borders on the level of ridiculousness how little they are talking about it.
Man tell me about it. I finally bit the bullet and got SiriusXM just because I was beyond tired of it. They do let a couple of the guys have a podcast, Mad About Hoops, since they don't let them talk about it on the air.

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1878 on: March 19, 2024, 04:23:32 PM »
Pittsburgh sports talk has fully moved on.  They only barely cared when Pitt was really good for a decade.  Duquesne is in, which was a fun one segment Monday story.

The fact that the Steelers added Russell Wilson and Justin Fields certainly hasn't helped what is already extremely Steelers-centric talk.

I have a rotation of podcasts I listen to for all sports.  SiriusXM college sports used to be ok, even though it still gave WAY too much love to football in February, but since ESPN took it over, it's the same stupid ranting.  At least previously they talked actual football, even though it was basketball season.  Now it's all of the usual side stories

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1879 on: March 19, 2024, 04:30:28 PM »
Pittsburgh sports talk has fully moved on.  They only barely cared when Pitt was really good for a decade.  Duquesne is in, which was a fun one segment Monday story.

The fact that the Steelers added Russell Wilson and Justin Fields certainly hasn't helped what is already extremely Steelers-centric talk.

I have a rotation of podcasts I listen to for all sports.  SiriusXM college sports used to be ok, even though it still gave WAY too much love to football in February, but since ESPN took it over, it's the same stupid ranting.  At least previously they talked actual football, even though it was basketball season.  Now it's all of the usual side stories
Oh I just have it for the music. I listened to one of the sports radio channels for maybe ten seconds and shot it into the sun.

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1880 on: March 19, 2024, 04:55:40 PM »
Pittsburgh sports talk has fully moved on.  They only barely cared when Pitt was really good for a decade.  Duquesne is in, which was a fun one segment Monday story.
Ahh, last night my wife was filling out her bracket and was asking where Duquesne was... I said "the hell if I know; never heard of 'em." It's like the late 90s when I was at Purdue and all of a sudden March came around and suddenly Gonzaga showed up, and none of us knew what a Gonzaga was or where it was located lol...

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1881 on: March 19, 2024, 04:58:21 PM »
Ahh, last night my wife was filling out her bracket and was asking where Duquesne was... I said "the hell if I know; never heard of 'em." It's like the late 90s when I was at Purdue and all of a sudden March came around and suddenly Gonzaga showed up, and none of us knew what a Gonzaga was or where it was located lol...

It's in Iowa, ya big dummy.
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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1882 on: March 19, 2024, 05:04:30 PM »
It's in Iowa, ya big dummy.
Then why is Pittsburgh sports radio covering it? I guess they're big dummies too :57:

But don't worry, I'm not going to beat myself up over not knowing what is or isn't in Iowa. 

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1883 on: March 19, 2024, 05:07:20 PM »
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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1884 on: March 19, 2024, 05:23:20 PM »


That's what I get for not googling it...

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1885 on: March 19, 2024, 06:08:45 PM »
The Geography of the NCAA Tournament:
Here are this year's first/second round sites with the two "pod leaders" hosted at each site:

Brooklyn:

  • #1 UCONN
  • #4 Dook
Charlotte:
  • #1 UNC
  • #2 Tennessee
Pittsburgh:
  • #3 Kentucky
  • #3 Creighton
Indianapolis:
  • #1 Purdue
  • #2 Marquette
Memphis:
  • #1 Houston
  • #3 Baylor
Omaha:
  • #2 Iowa State
  • #3 Illinois
Salt Lake City:
  • #2 Zona
  • #4 Kansas
Spokane:
  • #4 Auburn
  • #4 Bama


Note that there is one site in the Mountain Time Zone (SLC) and one in the Pacific Time Zone (Spokane) but there is only one top-4 seed from those two time zones (Arizona) so three #4 seeds from the Eastern and Central Time Zones have to get shipped out west where they will likely be at a geographic disadvantage if they are lucky enough to make the second round:
  • #4 Kansas is likely to face #5 Gonzaga in the second round - in Salt Lake City
  • #4 Bama is likely to face #5 St. Mary's in the second round - in Spokane
  • #4 Auburn is likely to face #5 SDSU in the second round - in Spokane


This isn't some random thing that just happened to occur this year because there were more teams from the Eastern and Central time zones than usual.  Nope, it is ALWAYS this way.  The NCAA has to know better and yet EVERY year they intentionally disadvantage a few teams from the Eastern and Central time zones and give an unfair and unearned advantage to a few teams from the Mountain and Pacific time zones. 

Specifically, over the last 20 tournaments (2004-2019 and 2020-2024) here is the number of top-4 seeds from each time zone:
  • 8.65 average Eastern, range of 6-11
  • 5.20 average Central, range of 2-9
  • 0.60 average Mountain, range of 0-1
  • 1.55 average Pacific, range of 0-3
Combining EST/CST and MST/PST we get:
  • 13.85 average Eastern and Central, range of 12-16
  • 2.15 average Mountain and Pacific, range of 0-4

Based on this, there *SHOULD* be seven first/second round sites each year in the Eastern and Central time zones and one in the Mountain and Pacific time zones. 


Can anyone explain to me why the NCAA chooses to do this?  It simply can't be accidental.  They obviously know what teams have been selected each year and they know that nearly every year a few eastern #4 seeds get shipped west to fill in unneeded western sites.  Why do they choose not to fix it? 
Someone has to be the late game on Thursday and Friday, and it's a lot more palatable to start the late game at 8PM local than 10 PM local.

Some of this is because the number of willing host sites in the Mountain and Pacific time zones is grossly out of proportion with the number of schools in Division 1 in those time zones. When was the last time anyone went to Spokane, Boise, or Albuquerque on their own impetus?

And if you think this was bad, recall that prior to the pod system, A) 1st/2nd round locations were fixed by region, and B) the eighth of the bracket that are attached to each 1 and 2 seed went with them no matter who the 3 and 4 seeds were.  This year, the sites would have looked like this:

East: Brooklyn (UConn) and Pittsburgh (Iowa State)
South: Memphis (Houston) and Charlotte (Marquette)
Midwest: Indy (Purdue) and Omaha (Tennessee)
West: Salt Lake (North Carolina) and Spokane (Arizona)

The top two seeds look okay save UNC, but after that it gets really messy really fast. Recall that the last year pre-pod, Georgetown, George Mason, and Maryland were all shipped to Boise for first-round action. 

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1886 on: March 19, 2024, 06:09:32 PM »
It's in Iowa, ya big dummy.
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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1887 on: March 19, 2024, 07:33:45 PM »
Seth Towns plays for Howard?  He started at Harvard in 2016.  Hed have been better off just graduating from Harvard in 2020

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1888 on: March 19, 2024, 08:19:31 PM »
Like I said, you might as well rest your guys.  Kansas sat their best two players for the Big XII tournament, so the committee disregarded their loss to Cincinnati.  But now turns out their best player is actually out,. after Self said hed play, to make sure the committee rated them as full strength.

Rate the resume, not the roster

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1889 on: March 19, 2024, 08:23:03 PM »
Kansas's McCullar out for the tourney.  Odds of them making it out of the first weekend just dropped immensely.

Self said last week that both Hunter D and Kevin M would be good to go for the tourney.  Then today Self says that Kevin hasn't practiced in 6 weeks.

So did Self lie to preserve a top 4 seed?  Or did McCullar opt out / quit to preserve his draft status and this was a surprise to Self?

 

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