2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread

[ELA]

Thinking MSU is out

[ELA]

I'm fairly confident that Northwestern is in and Ohio State is out but according to the NCAA's own NET system:

• #49 Ohio State
• #53 Northwestern

I mean MSU is likely at #24, so I don't think they care much about NET

[Brutus Buckeye]

[ELA]

Hm, 9 seed?  Didn't see that.

UNC is a terrible matchup for us.  Bacot is going to go for 20 and 20

[boilerbanger]

Despite playing 5 against 8 too.






You cannot breathe on Edey without being called for a foul. Meanwhile, the elbowsaurus can whack you in the head on offense and be gifted a foul call.

F him. Edey phone home. Just go lose a foot and flip burgers.

Dude, you can hate on the refs but wtf you have against Edey. He is a legitimate good dude. 

[medinabuckeye1]

I was right the whole time. You said that it didn't matter who the players were, who got recruited, or anything except who the head coach is, as if the head coach is Yoda and who can magically make the program good with the power of his mind.

I never said any of this, please stop lying.

I said we seemed to be on a good track with recruiting

My response to this all along was that appearing to be on a good trajectory isn't good enough when you are in year seven.

and he has had good teams in the past

Your definition of "good" is way too low for a program with a history of winning the league AND making a S16 every 4-5 years. I'll use Gene Smith's words, the standard at Ohio State is:

• Be in the hunt.
• Win the championship occasionally.
• Go deep in the post-season.

Holtmann only ever had one team that achieved any of those things. His very first team (with Matta's guys) was in the hunt but even that team failed to win the league title and got bounced from the postseason in the first weekend.

But if you think we would have been better by hiring Chris Jent two years ago, by all means, have your opinion.

I never said this, please stop lying.

I'll admit, I didn't think it was very likely that Diebler would win a bunch of games and get the job.

Of course you didn't. That is because you never allowed yourself to see that Holtmann was a failure. You argued with me about this for two years and you were wrong the whole time.

The least you could do is admit that you were wrong and not misquote me.

[847badgerfan]

Dude, you can hate on the refs but wtf you have against Edey. He is a legitimate good dude.

He may be a great kid. I don't care. I'm glad he's gone and the refs can turn to someone else to pander to.

I nominate Steven Crowl.

[MaximumSam]

Of course you didn't. That is because you never allowed yourself to see that Holtmann was a failure. You argued with me about this for two years and you were wrong the whole time.

The least you could do is admit that you were wrong and not misquote me.

Oh geez. Own your words and stop sniveling.

[MaximumSam]

He may be a great kid. I don't care. I'm glad he's gone and the refs can turn to someone else to pander to.

I nominate Steven Crowl.

You know, he still has eligibility left. Maybe the Purdue mega-NIL fund will get him to change his mind about going pro.

[847badgerfan]

You know, he still has eligibility left. Maybe the Purdue mega-NIL fund will get him to change his mind about going pro.

That might be good for him. He's an NBA bust. No game, just big, and gets a lot of favors.

[medinabuckeye1]

Oh geez. Own your words and stop sniveling.

The only words I haven't owned have been misquotes and outright lies by you.  

Own your failure to see that Holtmann was a failure.  

Sniveling?  
Back in December after an Ohio State win I made a snarky comment about waiting for January.  You condescendingly mocked my comment but then January came along and the Buckeyes SUCKED.  They went 2-6 in January with the wins being home games against non-tournament teams.  In other words, I was right and you were wrong AGAIN.  

When I posted the new thread about whether or not Holtmann should be fired you condescendingly mocked it with a comment about only doing that if the wheels came off.  They had, you just hadn't realized it yet.  In other words, I was right and you were wrong AGAIN.  

Where do you get the nerve to accuse me of sniveling?  The fact that you've argued with me for two years while you were wrong the whole time isn't too annoying, that happens.  People get things wrong, I do too.  What makes it annoying is that you've frequently been a condescending a-hole as if I didn't know what I was talking about and now after everyone, even Gene Smith, accepted that Holtmann was a failure for some reason you are STILL arguing with me.  

If you are incapable of the maturity to simply admit that you were wrong for two years and apologize for your frequently condescending tone while you were making incorrect arguments, at least have the decency to stop.  

[medinabuckeye1]

The Tournament, what to expect:

This is the 39th Tournament since the expansion to 64 teams in 1985.  2,432 teams made it to the previous 38 tournaments.  There have been 152 of each seed.  The expectations laid out below are based on the performance of the previous 152 teams seeded as our teams are seeded in this tournament.  

#1 seed Purdue:

• 98.68% chance to win opener, 150/152.  
• 84.21% chance to make S16, 128/152
• 66.45% chance to make E8, 101/152
• 40.13% chance to make F4, 61/152
• 25.00% chance to make CG, 38/152
• 15.79% chance to win the National Championship, 24/152

#3 seed Illinois:

• 85.23% chance to win opener, 141/152
• 52.63% chance to make S16, 80/152
• 25.66%  chance to make E8, 39/152
• 11.18% chance to make F4, 17/152
• 7.24% chance to make CG, 11/152
• 2.63% chance to win the National Championship, 4/152

#5 seed Wisconsin:

• 65.13% chance to win opener, 99/152
• 34.21% chance to make S16, 52/152
• 7.89% chance to make E8, 12/152
• 5.92% chance to make F4, 9/152
• 2.63% chance to make CG, 4/152
• No #5 has ever won the NC

#8 seed Nebraska:

• 48.03% chance to win opener, 73/152 (#8 seeds are the only higher seeds NOT to have a winning record in opening games)
• 10.53% chance to make S16, 16/152
• 5.92% chance to make E8, 9/152
• 3.95% chance to make F4, 6/152
• 2.63% chance to make CG, 4/152
• 0.66% chance to win the National Championship, 1/152

#9 seeds Michigan State and Northwestern:

• 51.97% chance to win opener, 79/152
• 5.26% chance to make S16, 8/152
• 3.29% chance to make E8, 9/152
• 1.32% chance to make F4, 2/152
• No #9 has ever won a F4 game

Adding up the six teams from our league that made it, we should achieve roughly this:

• 4.01 teams in the second round (.9868PU+.8553IL+.6513UW+.4803UNL+.5197*2MSU&NU)
• 1.92 teams in the S16 (.8421PU+.5263IL+.3421UW+.1053UNL+.0526*2MSU&NU)
• 1.12 teams in the E8 (.6645PU+.2566IL+.0789UW+.0592UNL+.0329*2MSU&NU)
• 0.63 teams in the F4 (.4013PU+.1118IL+.0592UW+.0395UNL+.0132*2MSU&NU)
• 0.38 teams in the CG (.25PU+.0724IL+.0263UW+.0263UNL)
• 0.19 National Champions (.1579PU+.0263IL+.0066UNL)

[FearlessF]

I just want one win

[847badgerfan]

I want two. JMU and then Dook.