2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread

[medinabuckeye1]

This is why I hate the "judging the team going to the CFP/tourney" argument.  What if OSU wins out, wins a couple in the BTT.  So with the team/coaching staff they are bringing to the tournament, they are what?  7-1, with wins against Purdue and at Michigan State?  That's a tourney team.

It should work both ways.

Teams in the top 4 going into CCGs should rest their starters.  Because then they'll all be healthy, and so that game without them doesn't count

FWIW:
I've never seen it as a situation where we are going to ignore everything that happened prior to the last-10.  I view it more as a tiebreaker.  

For example, if I were on the committee and two teams had the exact same resume except that:

• Team-A won a bunch of games early and went 2-8 in their last 10 while
• Team-B lost a bunch of games early and went 8-2 in their last 10.  

In that situation, I'd pick Team-B because the overall body of work is comparable (identical in this example) and Team-B is playing better right now.  

[ELA]

FWIW:
I've never seen it as a situation where we are going to ignore everything that happened prior to the last-10.  I view it more as a tiebreaker. 

For example, if I were on the committee and two teams had the exact same resume except that:

• Team-A won a bunch of games early and went 2-8 in their last 10 while
• Team-B lost a bunch of games early and went 8-2 in their last 10. 

In that situation, I'd pick Team-B because the overall body of work is comparable (identical in this example) and Team-B is playing better right now. 

No I mean when we downgrade Cincinnati basketball because they looked worse in one game without Kenyon Martin.  Or Florida State football this year.  If we are going to say the wins you have with players that won't be there in the postseason don't count, we should say the same for losses

[ELA]

Juwan isnt going anywhere


https://twitter.com/Johnubacon/status/1763723312222388733?t=yvvPlm8ZQRTj-RgdHYSnjA&s=19

[MaximumSam]

Juwan isnt going anywhere


https://twitter.com/Johnubacon/status/1763723312222388733?t=yvvPlm8ZQRTj-RgdHYSnjA&s=19

Between zero and more than zero tolerance

[ELA]

Considering they had a pretty air tight reason to fire him for cause, and retain a highly thought of S&C coach, and didn't, guessing they aren't going to pay him to go away after the season, after also paying the S&C coach to go away.

Warde is in so far over his head

[bayareabadger]

FWIW:
I've never seen it as a situation where we are going to ignore everything that happened prior to the last-10.  I view it more as a tiebreaker. 

For example, if I were on the committee and two teams had the exact same resume except that:

• Team-A won a bunch of games early and went 2-8 in their last 10 while
• Team-B lost a bunch of games early and went 8-2 in their last 10. 

In that situation, I'd pick Team-B because the overall body of work is comparable (identical in this example) and Team-B is playing better right now. 

I talked to a stat guy who said that last 10 thing is real in terms of how they evaluate. 

I'm a little more leery because it can be schedule dependent. 

[bayareabadger]

Considering they had a pretty air tight reason to fire him for cause, and retain a highly thought of S&C coach, and didn't, guessing they aren't going to pay him to go away after the season, after also paying the S&C coach to go away.

Warde is in so far over his head

I'm deeply flummoxed by all that. 

[medinabuckeye1]

I talked to a stat guy who said that last 10 thing is real in terms of how they evaluate.

I'm a little more leery because it can be schedule dependent.

Oh, agreed. Some past Gonzaga teams spring to mind. 

[grillrat]

Dagnabbit Wisconsin, you had ONE job....

[medinabuckeye1]

Dagnabbit Wisconsin, you had ONE job....

Well Purdue can still clinch a league title with a win tonight.

[bayareabadger]

Illinois was bananas on offense. 

It’s kinda wild. UW was good on defense, bad on O last year. They lost a decent defender who ended up the sixth man and demoted a bad defender who started. They added an athletic transfer and they can’t stop a damn thin. 

I read they allowed 23 points in the last 12 possessions, and one of those was a pair of missed free throws! Functionally zero stops. 

[847badgerfan]

Wisconsin just plain sucks right now. Just forfeit the next two and bail. I've seen enough.

Blackwell, Storr and Essegian should transfer. Crowl told to be done. Start over.

Clearly need a coach specifically for the bigs. What does Oliver do, besides nothing?

Gard has to make changes or he will be gone.

[ELA]

Nobody except Purdue is any good.  Although nobody but Michigan is bad.

Put Purdue in the tourney, and say #2-#13 play a tournament for the 2nd bid.  Nobody else gets in.

That tournament would be fun

[medinabuckeye1]

Huge win for the Hawkeyes. They are off this week and host the Illini in their regular season finale next Sunday.

If they can beat Illinois they'll finish the regular season at 19-12 and head to Minneapolis likely only needing to avoid a bad loss.