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Topic: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread

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medinabuckeye1

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1078 on: February 03, 2024, 10:30:04 PM »
Planned changes to tiers:

Michigan down to a new Tier-5:
They won in Iowa City but offset that with a home loss to Iowa. They also have home losses to Indiana, Minnesota, and now Rutgers. 

Ohio State down to Tier-4:
I really thought that the catastrophe last year would be the worst of the Holtmann era but he is now on pace to outdo himself. This year's Ohio State team looks worse than last year and at this point they are one of the worst two teams in the league. 

Not sure what to do with Penn State:
If you want to know why the Nittany Lions confuse me, just look at their last five games. They have three very good wins: Wisconsin was a good win because the Badgers are good and the other two are good wins because they were on the road in Piscataway and Bloomington. The other two games were very bad losses: Ohio State is a bad loss because Holtmann and Minnesota was a bad loss because it was at home.

Penn State now has one negative upset (home loss to Minnesota) and three positive upsets:

  • Home win over UW
  • Win in Piscataway 
  • Win in Bloomington 
Sounds simple, we should just move them up, right? Well not so fast. All three of those would still be upsets even if we moved them up and their home loss to Northwestern would become an upset as well. 


We could move them all the way up to Tier-2. That would eliminate the Wisconsin and Indiana upsets but do you really expect them to win upcoming home games against the Illini and Spartans? Also, assuming we move tOSU down, the road loss to the Buckeyes would become an upset. 

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1079 on: February 04, 2024, 10:57:36 AM »
Only a couple hours until the GAME OF THE YEAR in the B1G!

Who ya got?

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1080 on: February 04, 2024, 11:14:34 AM »
Illinois 
"Courage; Generosity; Fairness; Honor; In these are the true awards of manly sport."

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1081 on: February 04, 2024, 12:45:47 PM »
Wondered what happed to Luke Yaklich.  His defense added to Beleins offense really fueled those last few Michigan teams.  He's in his 4th year at UI-Chicago, and it's going pretty poorly.  Granted they moved up from the Horizon to the MVC to fill the Chicago void, not based on merit, even though they were a bottom tier Horizon team

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1082 on: February 04, 2024, 01:29:24 PM »
Illinois
Ohio State (over IU in Women's BB)!

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1083 on: February 04, 2024, 01:43:51 PM »
Wondered what happed to Luke Yaklich.  His defense added to Beleins offense really fueled those last few Michigan teams.  He's in his 4th year at UI-Chicago, and it's going pretty poorly.  Granted they moved up from the Horizon to the MVC to fill the Chicago void, not based on merit, even though they were a bottom tier Horizon team
Maybe he can hire Beilein to coach the offense

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1084 on: February 04, 2024, 01:44:21 PM »
Ohio State (over IU in Women's BB)!
Finish it out and they are tied with Iowa and have the tiebreaker

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1085 on: February 04, 2024, 01:52:25 PM »
This Wisconsin team is...fun? Is that a real thing? That can't be real.

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1086 on: February 04, 2024, 02:15:43 PM »
winning is fun
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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1087 on: February 04, 2024, 02:17:38 PM »
winning is fun
Thanks for the reminder. @MaximumSam and I can only vaguely recollect winning in MBB 

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1088 on: February 04, 2024, 04:14:39 PM »

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1089 on: February 04, 2024, 04:29:24 PM »
This Wisconsin team is...fun? Is that a real thing? That can't be real.
They’d be more fun if their point guard would stop pissing me off. 

That was an interesting game. Purdue is a better squad. UW needed to win more 50-50 plays or Storr needed to hit more tough shots. Neither happened, such is life.

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1090 on: February 04, 2024, 04:33:01 PM »
Tyler Wahl might be my favorite Big Ten player to watch.  Love his game.  But he tried to do too much down low a few times.  Granted it seems like that's one of those take the bad with the good things.  Because his creativity with his post moves generally work out.  Just not against the 7'4" 2x NPOTY

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1091 on: February 04, 2024, 06:17:40 PM »
Tyler Wahl might be my favorite Big Ten player to watch.  Love his game.  But he tried to do too much down low a few times.  Granted it seems like that's one of those take the bad with the good things.  Because his creativity with his post moves generally work out.  Just not against the 7'4" 2x NPOTY
I can kind of agree that he tried too much a few times, but this was probably about as good a game as I could expect from him in this spot. 

Simply put, Purdue is a terrible matchup for him. Painter smarty puts Edey on him, and then lets him plant in the lane and bother the center with a quasi-double. And if you get it around that, well Edey is still right next to the rim and Wahl is trying to finish in a congested space. 

What killed UW was not having a ball-handler who could make something out of the space Edey allowed. Hepburn isn't that dude and Storr is all sorts of wild. I suppose they should've tried more Klesmit coming off Wahl screens. Oh well. 

 

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