2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread

[847badgerfan]

I say leave them as they are for now.

[medinabuckeye1]

I say leave them as they are for now.

Well @boilerbanger I do see the argument but so far none of their games where it matters have been played.  They host Purdue tomorrow.  If they lose we'll move them down with the next update.  

Current tiers:

• Wisconsin (+1/-1), Purdue, Illinois -1, Michigan State -1
• Iowa (+1/-1), Northwestern, Nebraska
• Minnesota (+1/-1), Maryland +1, Ohio State, Rutgers
• Penn State +1, Indiana +1, Michigan -1 (+1/-2)

The upsets so far have been:

Projected final standings and seeds for the B1G Tournament are:

• 16-4/24-7 Wisconsin
• 15-5/26-5 Purdue
• 14-6/23-8 Illinois (wins tiebreaker over MSU based on record against PU)
• 14-6/22-9 Michigan State
• 13-7/21-10 Iowa
• 12-8/22-9 Nebraska (wins tiebreaker over NU based on record against UW)
• 12-8/21-10 Northwestern
• 8-12/17-14 Minnesota (wins tiebreaker over UMD based on H2H, no game in College Park)
• 8-12/16-15 Maryland
• 7-13/15-16 Rutgers (wins tiebreaker over tOSU based on record against the 12-8 teams)
• 7-13/17-14 Ohio State
• 6-14/12-19 Penn State
• 5-15/13-18 Indiana
• 3-17/8-23 Michigan

Based on the above, the match-ups for the B1G Tournament at the Target Center in Minneapolis, Minnesota would be:
Wednesday, March 13 (peacock):

• #11 Ohio State vs #14 Michigan, 9pm
• #12 Penn State vs #13 Indiana, 630pm

Thursday, March 14 (BTN):

• #5 Iowa vs PSU/IU, 230pm
• #6 Nebraska vs tOSU/M, 9pm
• #7 Northwestern vs #10 Rutgers, 630pm
• #8 Minnesota vs #9 Maryland, noon

Friday, March 15 (BTN):

• #1 Wisconsin vs MN/UMD, noon
• #2 Purdue vs NU/RU, 630pm
• #3 Illinois vs UNL/tOSU/M, 9pm
• #4 Michigan State vs IA/PSU/IU, 230pm

Saturday, March 16 (CBS):

• UW/MN/UMD vs MSU/IA/PSU/IU, 1pm
• PU/NU/RU vs IL/UNL/tOSU/M, 330pm

Sunday, Saint Patrick's Day, March 17 (CBS):

• UW/MN/UMD/MSU/IA/PSU/IU vs PU/NU/RU/IL/UNL/tOSU/M, 330pm

[medinabuckeye1]

@boilerbanger , if we DID move Iowa down, it would impact their home games against Tier-1 and their road games against Tier-4.  That is seven potential games but the Hawkeyes do NOT host the Spartans so that leaves six.  The change would:

• Iowa's projection changes to 7-13 from 13-7
• Wisconsin's projection improves to 17-3
• Purdue's projection improves to 16-4
• Illinois' projection improves to 15-5
• Penn State's projection improves to 7-13
• Indiana's projection improves to 6-14
• Michigan's projection improves to 4-16

Projected BTT seeds if Iowa is Tier-3:

• 17-3 UW
• 16-4 Purdue
• 15-5 Illinois
• 14-6 Michigan State
• 12-8 Nebraska
• 12-8 Northwestern
• 8-12 Minnesota
• 8-12 Maryland
• 7-13 *Iowa
• 7-13 Rutgers
• 7-13 Penn State
• 7-13 Ohio State
• 6-14 Indiana
• 4-16 Michigan

9th-12th would be a 4-way tie between Iowa, RU, PSU, and tOSU:

• Iowa wins, no games in Columbus nor Piscataway
• Rutgers is second, no game in Happy Valley, does not host Iowa
• Penn State is third, tied H2H2H2H with tOSU, wins based on better record against UW
• Ohio State is last.  

[boilerbanger]

@medinabuckeye1 thanks for running that through, I was wondering how the change would impact, the biggest challenge we have is that we are not dealing with a constant, teams will look great one night and then not so great the next night.  Some teams are more affected by others on the road than others.

[847badgerfan]

[NickSmith4Three]

It appears that Terrence Shannon Jr has won his Temporary Restraining Order against the University of Illinois in Federal Court.  The court held that the school did not provide appropriate safeguards under Title IX and was not afforded due process.  Wow this keeps getting more interesting.

[boilerbanger]

This creates a real pickle for Underwood, you play him and he ends being found guilty you get absolutely crushed by media and may cost your job, the angry mob will want blood and someone will take the hit.  But if he is cleared how would they not play him.  Serious risk here for underwood and the university reputations.

[medinabuckeye1]

This creates a real pickle for Underwood, you play him and he ends being found guilty you get absolutely crushed by media and may cost your job, the angry mob will want blood and someone will take the hit.  But if he is cleared how would they not play him.  Serious risk here for underwood and the university reputations.

I view it differently. I think the lawsuit was basically theater. It gives Underwood cover. He has an ironclad defense for playing him, a judge ordered him to.

[847badgerfan]

I was 31 years old the last time Indiana won in Madison.

I'm 57.

[ELA]

I view it differently. I think the lawsuit was basically theater. It gives Underwood cover. He has an ironclad defense for playing him, a judge ordered him to.

I agree.  Illinois can say they suspended him, but now they have a court order.  I'd be shocked if they didn't play him.  I'd be shocked if any school didn't play him now.

[ELA]

I was 31 years old the last time Indiana won in Madison.

I'm 57.

Aside from that 9-0 run to cut it from 16 to 7 early in the 2nd, Wisconsin was in total control.

Klesmit responded to that IU run with a one man 14-2 run

[bayareabadger]

Aside from that 9-0 run to cut it from 16 to 7 early in the 2nd, Wisconsin was in total control.

Klesmit responded to that IU run with a one man 14-2 run

Still mad at the defense. Was ragged.

[bayareabadger]

I would say that Penn State used up all their good shot making against the Badgers, but technically their only basket was an absolute prayer.

On the other hand, they have only one bucket as compared to two TV timeouts. So that’s not good for them.

[ELA]

I would say that Penn State used up all their good shot making against the Badgers, but technically their only basket was an absolute prayer.

On the other hand, they have only one bucket as compared to two TV timeouts. So that’s not good for them.

I'd say weird things happen on the road, but it was BJC, so I guess weird things happen in empty gyms