header pic

Perhaps the BEST B1G Forum anywhere, here at College Football Fan Site, CFB51!!!

The 'Old' CFN/Scout Crowd- Enjoy Civil discussion, game analytics, in depth player and coaching 'takes' and discussing topics surrounding the game. You can even have your own free board, all you have to do is ask!!!

Anyone is welcomed and encouraged to join our FREE site and to take part in our community- a community with you- the user, the fan, -and the person- will be protected from intrusive actions and with a clean place to interact.


Author

Topic: 2022 Worthless Recruiting Thread

 (Read 44065 times)

Mdot21

  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 14340
  • Liked:
Re: 2022 Worthless Recruiting Thread
« Reply #364 on: December 15, 2021, 10:32:21 PM »
I'm sure the kid likes Deion Sanders, but he was like 2 when Deion retired. 
yeah, and jesus died like 2,000+ years ago and people still worship his ass.

bayareabadger

  • Legend
  • ****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 7851
  • Liked:
Re: 2022 Worthless Recruiting Thread
« Reply #365 on: December 15, 2021, 10:38:06 PM »
Yeah I'm always pro players rights, but at some point you also have to address the business model to ensure you are retaining fans.  Maybe in Alabama or Nebraska or Iowa, people will always turn out, but I think in others, people have no interest in NFL-lite.

I think you keep the portal and the NIL stuff, but bring back the one year sit out rule with zero waivers.  Make your money, go where you want, but you won't be playing immediately
They don't, but many paradoxically vehemently dislike some of the things that prevent it from being that. 

As the sport pars down, it gets closer to that in a lot of ways, and most have little ability to adjust expectations to that reality. 

847badgerfan

  • Administrator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 25208
  • Liked:
Re: 2022 Worthless Recruiting Thread
« Reply #366 on: December 16, 2021, 06:43:11 AM »
UW got a big commit last night. 

Bumps them ahead of MSU in average player ranking.

Hoping for one more soon, which would bump UW ahead of Iowa.
U RAH RAH! WIS CON SIN!

Mdot21

  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 14340
  • Liked:
Re: 2022 Worthless Recruiting Thread
« Reply #367 on: December 16, 2021, 09:08:07 AM »
thanks to the coaching carousel, Michigan closed with....

4* DE Derrick Moore (6'4, 250) - #79 player overall - was committed to Oklahoma
4* S Keon Sabb (6'2, 200) - #94 player overall - was committed to Clemson
4* WR Darrius Clemons (6'3, 205) - #131 player overall - was all but set to go to his hometown team Oregon 
3* WR Amorion Walker (6'4, 175) - was committed to Notre Dame 

they got real lucky with all those coaching changes, but they took full advantage of their opportunity to get in there and flip 'em. Only guy they really "lost" on NSD was 4* DL Deone Walker from Detroit who inexplicably signed with freaking Kentucky.

Hang onto 4* DE Kevonte Henry and close the deal on 5* OT Josh Conerly Jr and the class is a smashing success and probably ranked top 6-8. 

Mdot21

  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 14340
  • Liked:
Re: 2022 Worthless Recruiting Thread
« Reply #368 on: December 16, 2021, 09:23:33 AM »
speaking of NIL....

Tom Brady's BRADY clothing brand, which is launching in Jan 2022 and will be exclusively sold online and at Nordstrom stores around the US/Canada- signs NIL deals with 10 college athletes. One of the ten is Michigan QB Cade McNamara. Guess I can't say jack about Cade now if he's got the seal of approval from the GOAT.


https://twitter.com/DarrenHeitner/status/1471468520324182028?s=20

847badgerfan

  • Administrator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 25208
  • Liked:
Re: 2022 Worthless Recruiting Thread
« Reply #369 on: December 16, 2021, 09:24:02 AM »
The Badgers lost IOL Billy Schrauth to ND. He was ready to stay home and play for UW, and then Brian Kelly left, and he did not like Kelly at all. So, he chose ND. Rees staying tipped it in.

His father pushed really hard for ND. Mom wanted UW.
U RAH RAH! WIS CON SIN!

847badgerfan

  • Administrator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 25208
  • Liked:
Re: 2022 Worthless Recruiting Thread
« Reply #370 on: December 16, 2021, 09:31:36 AM »
U RAH RAH! WIS CON SIN!

Mdot21

  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 14340
  • Liked:
Re: 2022 Worthless Recruiting Thread
« Reply #371 on: December 16, 2021, 09:33:42 AM »

recruit rankings are a guide, not the gospel. 

847badgerfan

  • Administrator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 25208
  • Liked:
Re: 2022 Worthless Recruiting Thread
« Reply #372 on: December 16, 2021, 09:43:05 AM »
recruit rankings are a guide, not the gospel.
It is a thing though.

Wisconsin will likely never win an MNC.

They cannot get elite CB's or WR's to come to Madison, except when there is a second Tuesday of next week or a blue boon.

They get serviceable kids there, but that is not going to beat Bama, OSU, etc.
U RAH RAH! WIS CON SIN!

Mdot21

  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 14340
  • Liked:
Re: 2022 Worthless Recruiting Thread
« Reply #373 on: December 16, 2021, 09:55:08 AM »
It is a thing though.

Wisconsin will likely never win an MNC.

They cannot get elite CB's or WR's to come to Madison, except when there is a second Tuesday of next week or a blue boon.

They get serviceable kids there, but that is not going to beat Bama, OSU, etc.
Don't forget QB's. Bama/OSU have also been on an insane run of QB's these past 5 years.

#1 thing you need however is and always will be the trench ponies. Start there. The 5* CB's and WR's don't mean jack if you are tissue paper soft up front. Looking at you Texas. Looking at you USC. 

Gigem

  • Starter
  • *****
  • Posts: 2141
  • Liked:
Re: 2022 Worthless Recruiting Thread
« Reply #374 on: December 16, 2021, 09:59:59 AM »
Well Texas A&M had a really good haul this year. Some are saying #1 class. I prefer to wait and see how these guys pan out, but I’d rather be high on this list than not. I think a couple of guys also want to wait until the traditional signing day in February, but either way it has been a good year. 

utee94

  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 17672
  • Liked:
Re: 2022 Worthless Recruiting Thread
« Reply #375 on: December 16, 2021, 10:05:00 AM »
Don't forget QB's. Bama/OSU have also been on an insane run of QB's these past 5 years.

#1 thing you need however is and always will be the trench ponies. Start there. The 5* CB's and WR's don't mean jack if you are tissue paper soft up front. Looking at you Texas. Looking at you USC.

For sure.  For the first time in maybe a decade, this was finally addressed in the 2022 recruiting class. But we really need to find a couple of serviceable portal transfers who can come in and make an immediate impact on the oline as well, or we'll still be in the same boat for 2022 that we were for 2021. 

847badgerfan

  • Administrator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 25208
  • Liked:
Re: 2022 Worthless Recruiting Thread
« Reply #376 on: December 16, 2021, 10:11:28 AM »
Don't forget QB's. Bama/OSU have also been on an insane run of QB's these past 5 years.

#1 thing you need however is and always will be the trench ponies. Start there. The 5* CB's and WR's don't mean jack if you are tissue paper soft up front. Looking at you Texas. Looking at you USC.
UW has had those since time began.
U RAH RAH! WIS CON SIN!

Gigem

  • Starter
  • *****
  • Posts: 2141
  • Liked:
Re: 2022 Worthless Recruiting Thread
« Reply #377 on: December 16, 2021, 10:32:02 AM »
Texas A&M has signed 9 top 100 kids. They have 3 more top 100 kids committed to them that have yet to sign.

That's 12 top 100 kids. With four of them 5*'s. In a total class of 20. They are still favored or in the top 3 for 5 other 5* kids and are in on a bunch more top 100 kids.

This is nuts to me. Texas A&M has zero history of ever winning anything. Texas is the dominant blue-blood program in the state. A&M is kinda middle of nowhere far from all the major cities in Texas. Texas is smack dab in Austin. Jimbo Fisher's last year FSU was a 5-7 disaster, and he's been perpetually 8-4 at A&M ever since he's been there. He's been at A&M for 4 years. It's not exactly like he's got a "new vision" or hype or that new coach bump going that new hot name coaches get in their first year or two on the trail. After that it's put up or shut up time if coaches want to keep recruiting at an elite level. He's largely shut up, as he hasn't put up jack squat.

If the dominoes fall for them they have a legit shot at finishing #1 and having one of the highest rated classes ever. Makes absolutely no sense to me, but whatever.
There is so much bullshit in this statement it makes me laugh. 2020 doesn’t count I guess?  Yeah, 2021 wasn’t great but 10 wins was within reach, and we took down Big Bad Alabama. 

What do you really know about A&M?  You do understand we’re the other flagship school in the state right?  We’re not some copy of Texas Tech, we’re fairly close to all of Texas’s large cities. There are almost 70,000 Aggie students right now, and there’s room for more. 

We have definitely invested in our program. We’ve got the fan base, facilities, support, and it doesn’t hurt being in the SEC. 

Weve made a helluva commitment to Jimbo Fisher as well. He could go 8-4 the next two years and he’s still going to be our coach. 

If you look at it objectively you’ll see that A&M has a lot more in common with Florida, Clemson, and LSU. All teams that have probably passed up the traditional programs like Michigan, Notre Dame, and maybe even Texas and OU. 

 

Support the Site!
Purchase of every item listed here DIRECTLY supports the site.