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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: MaximumSam on April 22, 2020, 08:58:35 PM
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Do we have a 2022 thread? Anyway four star corner Jyaire Brown commits to the Bucks out of Louisiana
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Only four?
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Still on the four train. Bucks add four star OT Tegra Tshabola out of West Chester.
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Bucks add four star LB C.J. Hicks out of Dayton
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Since we're talking way too early worthless 2022 'crootin' here, might as well keep it going.
5* CB Domani Jackson (6-1, 185) of California (Mater Dei HS) - who is ranked in the way too early rankings as the #12 player overall and the #2 CB in the nation, cuts his list to 10. Ohio State and Michigan make the list. Michigan has started a bit of a pipeline in Cali the last couple classes, and just snagged some of Jackson's Mater Dei teammates in 2021 4* WR Cristian Dixon and 2020 4* CB Donovan Green-Warren. Not that these things ever matter much- but Jackson has family in Michigan and has said many times that Michigan was his dream school and that he grew up a Michigan fan. Michigan will have a legitimate shot, but Mater Dei is a big USC feeder school and the hometown school typically always has the edge imo.
Michigan is also in very good position with in-state 2022 5* CB William Johnson (6-3, 190) of Grosse Pointe South HS. Johnson is ranked as the #16th player overall and #4 CB in the nation in the way too early rankings. He also grew up a Michigan fan, as his father Deon Johnson, was a starting safety at Michigan in the early 1990s.
If their rankings hold and Harbaugh can work the familial/fandom connections he could wind up with two 5* CB's in the 2022 class.
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Wisconsin has a Super 6 right now, all of which could be high 4 STARZ and some 5.
Might be tough to keep them all at home. The fence King Barry built around the state is still strong, but all of these 6 have offers from Bama.
Gonna be interesting. Might have to dip into Minnesota, which is also in-sate recruiting for Big Red.
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Wisconsin has a Super 6 right now, all of which could be high 4 STARZ and some 5.
Might be tough to keep them all at home. The fence King Barry built around the state is still strong, but all of these 6 have offers from Bama.
Gonna be interesting. Might have to dip into Minnesota, which is also in-sate recruiting for Big Red.
Michigan is after Braelon Allen at safety pretty hard right now. So is ND. Looks like it’ll be a 3-team race.
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And it's over. Allen is a Badger. Let the dominoes start to fall.
Wisconsin landed its first class of 2022 commitment on Tuesday as Fond Du Lac (Wis.) safety (https://247sports.com/Player/Braelon-Allen-46086116)Braelon Allen (https://247sports.com/Player/Braelon-Allen-46086116) opted to stay home and play for the Badgers. Badger247 breaks down Allen's impact on the field and his effect on the rest of the 2022 recruiting cycle...
THE NUMBERS
2: Wisconsin has landed back-to-back four-star safety commits in the 2022 and 2021 classes.
2: Allen is the second-highest rated safety commit for the Badgers in the 247sports composite era.
15: The Badgers have landed the last 15 in-state prospects they've verbally offered going back to the 2019 class.
116: At No. 116 overall, Allen is the 14th highest-ranked commit for UW in the 247sports composite era.
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And it's over. Allen is a Badger. Let the dominoes start to fall.
Wisconsin landed its first class of 2022 commitment on Tuesday as Fond Du Lac (Wis.) safety (https://247sports.com/Player/Braelon-Allen-46086116)Braelon Allen (https://247sports.com/Player/Braelon-Allen-46086116) opted to stay home and play for the Badgers. Badger247 breaks down Allen's impact on the field and his effect on the rest of the 2022 recruiting cycle...
THE NUMBERS
2: Wisconsin has landed back-to-back four-star safety commits in the 2022 and 2021 classes.
2: Allen is the second-highest rated safety commit for the Badgers in the 247sports composite era.
15: The Badgers have landed the last 15 in-state prospects they've verbally offered going back to the 2019 class.
116: At No. 116 overall, Allen is the 14th highest-ranked commit for UW in the 247sports composite era.
During a pandemic, when kids might be nervous to travel away for school, is a pretty darn good time to have the best group of in state kids ever.
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Still, it's pretty rare for UW to lose an in-state kid they really want.
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Still, it's pretty rare for UW to lose an in-state kid they really want.
yeah, I think that state is a lot like Ohio, kids are born and bred to worship the hometown team, and there is no other game in town. Wish the state of Michigan was like that.
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the state of Nebraska was like that, until Billy C. showed up
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Penn State gets a commitment from Kaden Saunders, a 4 star receiver. It's of interest to me because he's from Westerville South and I live in Westerville. Have to think he liked how Penn State used KJ Hamler - he's that kind of player. It doesn't seem like OSU ever really got into his recruitment. Not sure why.
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Sam - thought you were supposed to be the bagman covering that county - slacker
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Sam - thought you were supposed to be the bagman covering that county - slacker
They haven't even offered him! Can't be dropping bags to guys who can't pull the trigger
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Penn State gets a commitment from Kaden Saunders, a 4 star receiver. It's of interest to me because he's from Westerville South and I live in Westerville. Have to think he liked how Penn State used KJ Hamler - he's that kind of player. It doesn't seem like OSU ever really got into his recruitment. Not sure why.
OSU doesn’t recruit 4* WRs anymore. Seems like they’ve been filling up on 5* and that it.
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Penn State gets a commitment from Kaden Saunders, a 4 star receiver. It's of interest to me because he's from Westerville South and I live in Westerville. Have to think he liked how Penn State used KJ Hamler - he's that kind of player. It doesn't seem like OSU ever really got into his recruitment. Not sure why.
I think he visited MSU for the ASU game last year.
He probably rightly crossed us off the list after that.
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OSU doesn’t recruit 4* WRs anymore. Seems like they’ve been filling up on 5* and that it.
They got a beastly 5-star from right near PSU last year, as I recall.
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Yeah, they slaughtered our district in the state championship game.
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Four star linebacker and top Ohio prospect Gabe Powers commits to the Bucks out of Marysville
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not a surprise. Ohio State always gets whoever the hell they want in Ohio. Speaking of 2022 worthless recruiting, right now, looks like Michigan could have an epic haul at DB in 2022. They are in on a lot of elite DB recruits.
Domani Jackson, CA (6-1, 185) 5*, #1 CB, #4 player in the nation according to 247Composite. Has family in Michigan & Ohio, grew up a Michigan fan. USC is the major competition. It will be be USC or Michigan, imo.
Keon Sabb, NJ (6-3, 185) 5*, #1 ATH, #8 player in the nation according to 247Composite. Looks up to Peppers being a NJ guy, Michigan is in his top 3-5, will be very serious contenders.
Gentry Williams, OK (6-0, 170) 5*, #2 ATH, #9 player in nation according to 247Composite. Same HS as up-and-coming Wolverines star Dax Hill. Very similar game too. Michigan is in his top group with OU, LSU, and USC, and is a factor. Will be a tough pull, but they have a legitimate chance and they did it before with Dax Hill.
William Johnson, MI (6-3, 190) 5*, #3 CB, #15 player in the nation according to 247Composite. From Michigan, his father played at Michigan in the 90s. Never say never, but if Michigan doesn't land him will be a bit of a shocker. 5* in the backyard and dad was a starting All-Conference safety for Michigan? That's one you have to close or else you just suck, Jim.
Jaeden Gould, NJ (6-2, 190) 4*, #12 CB, #96 player in the nation according to 247Composite. Diehard Michigan fan, looks up to Peppers as well being a NJ guy. Very likely to commit to Michigan soon.
Myles Rowser, MI-FL (6-1, 185) 4*, #10 Safety, #150 player in the nation according to 247Composite. Originally from Michigan, but transferred down to IMG Academy in Florida. Half-brother of current Michigan DB Andre Seldon. Was a one-time Michigan commit very early on, but backed off his pledge. Michigan is still very much in it, and probably still the favorite to land him.
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4 star athlete Dasan McCullough commits to the Bucks out of Kansas
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3 star tight end Bennett Christian commits to the Bucks out of Georgia
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QB Quinn Ewert, the overall #1 composite recruit, decomitted from Texas, and is expected to flip to OSU
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QB Quinn Ewert, the overall #1 composite recruit, decomitted from Texas, and is expected to flip to OSU
Rich get richer.
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4 star TE Benji Gosnell commits to the Bucks out of north Carolina
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Michigan made huge moves upwards with both 5* CB's Domani Jackson (6'1, 185, #3 HS recruit overall, #1 CB) and Will Johnson (6'3, 190, #8 HS recruit overall, #3 CB). So much so that the CRYSTAL BALLZ have already flooded in for Michigan for Johnson, and Greg Biggins- the top CA analyst on 247Sports says he's close to putting in a CRYSTAL BALLZ for Domani Jackson to Michigan. Will Johnson is from Michigan and his father was an All-Conference safety at Michigan in the 1990's. Domani Jackson grew up a big Michigan fan in California- his father is originally from Ohio and grew up a diehard Michigan fan- and passed his fandom down to his son. Michigan having both dads in their corner, having both kids grow up on Michigan football, and having a dire need at the position (ie- come here both you guys are starters day one) might just land them an elite CB duo in 2022.
Michigan is also right in the thick of things for some other highly rated DB prospects in 2022.
5* S Keon Sabb (6'3, 195) #13 player overall, #1 safety, #1 player in NJ - he is wide open- and PSU, Clemson, MICH, Florida, Texas A&M, and Ohio State are all very much in it right now. Wide open.
4* S Myles Rowser (6'1, 185) #106 player overall, #9 safety, #2 player in MI - was a very early Michigan commit, de-committed went to that IMG in Florida- then moved back to MI. His brother is a true freshman CB at Michigan, and Michigan is heavily in this one if not the outright favorite.
4* CB Jaeden Gould (6'2, 190) #145 player overall, #17 CB, #4 player in NJ - was a heavy Michigan lean early, but Texas and USC still very much at play. All of his CRYSTAL BALLZ currently on Michigan.
4* S Isaac Thompson (6'1, 190) #157 player overall, #11 safety, #4 player in MO - Michigan State legacy, was a heavy Texas lean a couple months back- but apparently Michigan has surged- and the Michigan CRYSTAL BALLZ have flooded in.
They come through with that 5* CB duo and get a couple of the other 4 DB's on that list- and that's how they can fix an atrocious ass pass defense in a hurry.
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5 star QB Quinn Ewers commits to the Buckeyes out of Texas
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5 star QB Quinn Ewers commits to the Buckeyes out of Texas
Rich get richer. Wonder if Texas can get him back once they fire Tom Hermann and hire Urban.
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You have to think Penn State will put the full court press on Kyle McCord.
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You have to think Penn State will put the full court press on Kyle McCord.
Yes- there is little chance of them keeping Stroud, Jack Miller, Kyle McCord and Ewers.
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You have to think Penn State will put the full court press on Kyle McCord.
They need him badly. Clifford is bad. McCord would have a great shot at starting year one.
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Yes- there is little chance of them keeping Stroud, Jack Miller, Kyle McCord and Ewers.
This is an embarrassment of riches. Stroud has big-time upside. Wouldn't be surprised to see him be the next 1st rd pick QB coming out of OSU.
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2022 is a long way off
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2022 is a long way off
Truth. A lot can change by then. No 2022 commitment is remotely close to safe.
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This is an embarrassment of riches. Stroud has big-time upside. Wouldn't be surprised to see him be the next 1st rd pick QB coming out of OSU.
I remember when MSU took a flier on Stroud at a point where WSU was his only other P5 offer.
Then he won MVP at the Elite 11, and I knew we were done
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Every CB to MSU as 3* OG Gavin Brosius announces Saturday between MSU, Nebraska, ASU, Arizona and Colorado
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I remember when MSU took a flier on Stroud at a point where WSU was his only other P5 offer.
Then he won MVP at the Elite 11, and I knew we were done
Stroud was so underrated. Michigan was in on him too, and he was #3 on my wish list for QB's that class. DJ Uiagalelei was my #1 but that was a pipe dream. Harrison Bailey was #2 and it looked for a long time like he would commit to Michigan, and then he kind of shocked everyone by committing to Tennessee.
Stroud didn't just perform well in t-shirts and shorts in a camp like say Shane Morris. Stroud's senior year he went nuts and broke all kinds of passing records and threw for like 50 TD's vs only a handful of picks. He went bonkers his senior year.
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Truth. A lot can change by then. No 2022 commitment is remotely close to safe.
Correct. Even 2021. These kids aren't taking visits.
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Yes- there is little chance of them keeping Stroud, Jack Miller, Kyle McCord and Ewers.
Like the old saying goes a bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush.Tell the guys coming in if they sign the program backs off someone.Or just roll the dice - slippery slope
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Like the old saying goes a bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush.Tell the guys coming in if they sign the program backs off someone.Or just roll the dice - slippery slope
It's a great problem to have. This is what you want at the QB position. Bring in as much talent as you can and someone will rise to the top.
4* CJ Stroud - #42 player overall, #2 Pro-Style QB
4* Jack Miller - #334 player overall, #13 Pro-Style QB
5* Kyle McCord - #22 player overall, #3 Pro-Style QB
5* Quinn Ewers - #2 player overall, #1 Pro-Style QB
This might be the most ridiculous QB room on "recruiting stars" paper ever assembled. Will be hard to keep them all happy.
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Dwan Mathis was wise to dip out
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Rivals as of 11/22/2020:
2. tOSU 3.9
8. Michigan 3.52
15. Wisconsin 3.4
18. Nebraska 3.15
25. Rutgers 2.91
29. Iowa 3.19
30. MSU 3.18
33. Minnesota 3.19
36. Penn State 3.5
37. Maryland 2.95
40. FSU - 3.2 I digress
59. Northwestern 3.15
66. Indiana 3.25
70. Illinois 2.73
83. Purdue 2.83
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5 star receiver Caleb Burton commits to the Bucks out of Texas
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You could build a hell of a team just out of the guys OSU is poaching from Herman
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Herman is getting stomped out in his own state by OSU. Wow.
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OSU has been recruiting Texas for a while, not just since hermann arrived in Texas
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again 2022 is a long way off
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OSU has been recruiting Texas for a while, not just since hermann arrived in Texas
They've never recruited Texas like this. Ever. Urban laid the tracks, Day has just kept it going. And Herman being mediocre at Texas while OSU has been a juggernaut has only made it that much easier for them to raid Texas.
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again 2022 is a long way off
Truth. No one is safe til those LOI's are in.
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Five star corner Jaheim Singletary commits to the Buckeyes out of Florida
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Five star corner Jaheim Singletary commits to the Buckeyes out of Florida
wonder if Ohio State taking this commitment has anything to do with 2022 5* CB's Domani Jackson and Will Johnson? They have struck up a real friendship and want to go to the same school. Most of the time that's BS, but it seems to be legit. Looked like both were leaning to Michigan early on, then chatter was they were leaning Buckeyes, then it shifted back to Michigan. We'll see what happens.
Knowing Michigan's luck vs Ohio State over the last two decades, watch Domani Jackson and Will Johnson commit to Ohio State as well. Lol.
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The Top247’s No. 1 ranked cornerback Domani Jackson arrived wearing Michigan gear. However he maintains every program in his top six is “about the same.
“I’m just taking my time,” Jackson added.
The No. 3 overall prospect in the 247Sports Composite is also spoke highly of USC, Ohio State, Arizona State and Clemson.
Regarding the Trojans, he said he talks to “pretty much everyone at the school. Since 8th grade I’ve been keeping in contact with a lo to them and talk to them almost every day.”
Regarding the Wolverines and his recent visit, “I loved it honestly. The Big House. I didn’t get to see it much but the outside view was huge. I’d love to play in an atmosphere, 110,000 fans, we’ll see.”
Jackson reiterated Michigan was his dream school and that they’ll always be in the mix. “You can never count them out.”
IF Michigan is ever going to get their shit together and turn the ship around- 5* CB's Domani Jackson and Will Johnson are absolute must gets in 2022 recruiting class. Harbaugh is running the show- so- watch them get neither and lose both to Ohio State. Lol. Jackson grew up dreaming of playing for Michigan and Will Johnson is from Michigan and his father played for the Wolverines. To lose both would really hurt.
Domani Jackson is the #1 ranked CB and #3 player overall, and Will Johnson is the #4 ranked CB and #8 player overall. You get them together in the same class- they can change life in the secondary on day one. Both these kids look like plug and play starters.
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Better CB's and WR's are all Wisconsin is short on in catching up to Ohio State. Those are the hardest positions to recruit to Wisconsin. And Michigan, and all the others that are not Ohio State.
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agreed
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Better CB's and WR's are all Wisconsin is short on in catching up to Ohio State. Those are the hardest positions to recruit to Wisconsin. And Michigan, and all the others that are not Ohio State.
Michigan used to have no problem recruiting CB's and WR's. Have to get back to that point.
CB's were atrocious in 2020. They need serious upgrade in talent. Domani Jackson & Will Johnson would be those huge upgrades, and would be plug and play starters.
Michigan has actually done a really nice job getting WR's in 2020/2021 classes back to back. AJ Henning would've been a 5 STARZ if not for the serious injury he suffered his junior year of HS imo- still wound up a top 100 overall recruit and flashed as a true frosh- serious speedster and just plays at a different gear- his acceleration is out of this world. Roman Wilson might've been the fastest WR in the entire nation in the 2020 class. Xavier Worthy probably is the fastest player in the entire nation in the 2021 class. Giles Jackson is a legit 4.4 guy and an ideal "slot-ninja" utility player. They need to find more of a role for him going forward. Cornelius Johnson looks like a Tarik Black (pre-injuries) clone.
They definitely have talent at WR. They need an offensive gameplan, play-calling/scheme, and a QB that can get those athletes the football.
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Verduzco and UNL found a new QB candidate over the weekend, extending an offer to Tayven Jackson (Greenwood, Indiana).
The 6-foot-5 signal-caller is also a talented basketball player and is the younger brother of University of Indiana All-America candidate Trayce Jackson-Davis.
Jackson’s football options have taken off recently, though. In the past 10 days alone, he’s reported offers from — in order according to his Twitter account — Oklahoma State, Arkansas, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Oregon, Michigan, TCU, Washington State and the Huskers.
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Verduzco and UNL found a new QB candidate over the weekend, extending an offer to Tayven Jackson (Greenwood, Indiana).
The 6-foot-5 signal-caller is also a talented basketball player and is the younger brother of University of Indiana All-America candidate Trayce Jackson-Davis.
Jackson’s football options have taken off recently, though. In the past 10 days alone, he’s reported offers from — in order according to his Twitter account — Oklahoma State, Arkansas, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Oregon, Michigan, TCU, Washington State and the Huskers.
MSU offered him back in August, IU was his only P5 offer at the time. TJD is likely gone to the NBA after this year I would think? So I don't know that the family ties matter there
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5* CB Domani Jackson kind of surprised and committed to hometown USC.
Still think Michigan will have a shot at the flip but they’re going to have to rebound in a big way in 2021 and lock-up in-state 5* CB Will Johnson.
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Michigan picks up a pair of 4* DB’s out of Tennessee in Taylor Groves (#189 player overall) and Kody Jones (#279 player overall).
Michigan still very hard after 5* CB Will Johnson, 5* S Keon Sabb, 4* CB Jaelen Gould, 4* S Myles Rowser, 4* CB Bobby Taylor, and are still aren’t giving up on flipping USC commit 5* CB Domani Jackson.
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sounding like 4* NJ CB Jaeden Gould (6’2, 190) could be close to dropping for Michigan. They need him and 5* CB Will Johnson in the worst way.
Still holding out hope they can flip 5* USC commit CB Domani Jackson.
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I bet I can name 4 of the top 5 programs when this list is complete.
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nothing to brag about, sir
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Of course not, it's kind of boring (to me). But it's the off season after an off season.
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now, if you could predict or call stuff like this...............
Tennessee’s five-year recruiting average (2016-2020) was 15. UT went 29-31.
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Rutgers gets a commitment from 4 star linebacker Anthony Johnson out of Philadelphia
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5* CB Will Johnson- the #1 player in Michigan, #8 overall player in the nation, and the #4 CB according to the 247Sports Composite- is announcing his commitment Feb 28th. Sounds like it'll be either Michigan or Ohio State, with many believing Michigan having the edge right now.
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He could prolly walk in and start at either
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5* CB Will Johnson- the #1 player in Michigan, #8 overall player in the nation, and the #4 CB according to the 247Sports Composite- is announcing his commitment Feb 28th. Sounds like it'll be either Michigan or Ohio State, with many believing Michigan having the edge right now.
All blue.
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Hope you’re right, but I have zero confidence in going up vs OSU in anything football related. PTSD.
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Rutgers gets a commitment from 4 star linebacker Anthony Johnson out of Philadelphia
Think Schiano would switch places with the VOLS now?
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Think Schiano would switch places with the VOLS now?
Schiano would’ve easily been the best coach the Vols had since Fulmer was in his heyday like 22 years ago.
Vols fans deserve everything they are getting right now.
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Yup turning him down is one thing Tar/Feathering unfairly and for all to see and hear was a dick move
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4* CB Jaeden Gould (6'2, 190) of New Jersey - the #141 player overall in the nation, #16 CB, and #2 player in the state of New Jersey according to the 247Composite- cuts his list to a top 6 of Rutgers, Clemson, USC, Notre Dame, Penn State, and Michigan. Michigan is presumed to be the favorite.
5* in-state CB Will Johnson is set to announce this Sunday. Another in-stater 4* DB Dillon Tatum (5'11, 190) - the #249 player and #13 ATH in the nation according to the 247Composite- is expected to make a decision soon as well, with Michigan believed to be the favorite.
Michigan already has a pair of 4* DB commits in the 2022 class, with Taylor Groves (6'2, 175) - the #245 player and #16 Safety in the nation- and Kody Jones (6', 180)- the #282 player and #16 ATH - already committed.
Could be a whale of a DB class, even after missing out on 5* Domani Jackson. Still holding out hope there for a flip. Especially if Michigan bounces back and 'SC takes a dip.
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4* CB Jaeden Gould (6'2, 190) of New Jersey - the #141 player overall in the nation, #16 CB, and #2 player in the state of New Jersey according to the 247Composite- cuts his list to a top 6 of Rutgers, Clemson, USC, Notre Dame, Penn State, and Michigan. Michigan is presumed to be the favorite.
5* in-state CB Will Johnson is set to announce this Sunday. Another in-stater 4* DB Dillon Tatum (5'11, 190) - the #249 player and #13 ATH in the nation according to the 247Composite- is expected to make a decision soon as well, with Michigan believed to be the favorite.
Michigan already has a pair of 4* DB commits in the 2022 class, with Taylor Groves (6'2, 175) - the #245 player and #16 Safety in the nation- and Kody Jones (6', 180)- the #282 player and #16 ATH - already committed.
Could be a whale of a DB class, even after missing out on 5* Domani Jackson. Still holding out hope there for a flip. Especially if Michigan bounces back and 'SC takes a dip.
So which one of the DB's will hit the transfer portal first? obviously playing time will be the reason
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So which one of the DB's will hit the transfer portal first? obviously playing time will be the reason
No kidding. Getting commits out of HS has never been more meaningless.
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4 star receiver Kyion Graves commits to the Buckeyes out of Arizona
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5* CB Will Johnson commits to Michigan. If they flip 5* CB Domani Jackson....wowzers.
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According to 247 and pretty much everyone else he's committed to USC - stop getting greedy
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According to 247 and pretty much everyone else he's committed to USC - stop getting greedy
Only shot that Michigan has at a flip is that they just landed Will Johnson added to the fact that Jackson grew up a huge Michigan fan and has said many times it's his "dream school". Jackson and Will Johnson struck up a real friendship a couple years ago and talk to each other all the time and had planned to play together in college. When Johnson went out to Cali to visit USC he stayed at Jackson's house.
Jackson's dad grew up a huge Michigan fan and is from Youngstown, OH and had become tight with Zordich due to the Youngstown connection. When Michigan fired Zordich, pretty much killed Michigan chances at the time and the kid decided he was done with the process and ready to commit- so 'SC it was.
Michigan will have to actually rebound and have a good season- but imo if they don't absolutely suck in 2021 like they did in 2020- they'll have a shot at a flip of Jackson.
And yup, you bet I'm greedy. Michigan CB's were atrocious in 2020. Will Johnson and Domani Jackson are plug and play Day One starters and both could've started at Michigan in 2020 as HS Jr's and been better players than the trash Michigan put out there at CB in 2020.
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UW has only a single commit for 2022. He's an in-state QB. The helmets are crawling all over the state now, salivating over the top-ranked players. Might be tough to keep them when schools like OSU, Clemson and Bama are coming in.
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Ya but the alumni are backing up trucks of cheese curds - who can resist that?
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UW has only a single commit for 2022. He's an in-state QB. The helmets are crawling all over the state now, salivating over the top-ranked players. Might be tough to keep them when schools like OSU, Clemson and Bama are coming in.
The extended recruiting dead period is killing all of the non-elite helmets. A Clemson offer, an OSU offer, etc..., stands on its own merits. If kids can't get on campus, meet the coaches, attend the camps, it's going to be tough for an Iowa, a Wisconsin, an MSU, etc, to get commits.
A lot of the write ups on MSU targets all say something to the effect of the kid wants to get on campus this summer. You get an Alabama offer? You jump on it, if interested. If you want to "see the campus", they'll move on without you.
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Yep. That's what I'm seeing.
Thankfully the in-state kids are waiting. June has been good for UW in the past. Need June to happen this year.
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the truth
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I'm not sure what the status is of the camps. That's where a lot of guys get offers, and where the coaches can do their best evals of the linemen they are recruiting. For MSU's staff to come in a month before the pandemic hits, and be unable to do any on campus, in person visits, or evals might be a hole they can't dig out of.
Pretty horrible timing
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The extended recruiting dead period is killing all of the non-elite helmets. A Clemson offer, an OSU offer, etc..., stands on its own merits. If kids can't get on campus, meet the coaches, attend the camps, it's going to be tough for an Iowa, a Wisconsin, an MSU, etc, to get commits.
A lot of the write ups on MSU targets all say something to the effect of the kid wants to get on campus this summer. You get an Alabama offer? You jump on it, if interested. If you want to "see the campus", they'll move on without you.
was reading something from uab epidemiologist saying they're expecting things to be much better by early summer, may-ish. ncaa really needs to open up a large portion of summer for coaches/schools to recruit and have on campus visits. hopefully hold camps too.
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Yep. That's what I'm seeing.
Thankfully the in-state kids are waiting. June has been good for UW in the past. Need June to happen this year.
Take your time don't be so hasty,we'd like to come visit our Big Ten Brethren
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probably nothing, but pics of USC commit 5* CB Domani Jackson wearing Michigan gloves and socks at his HS practice the other day circulating on the internetz. Probably means nothing. But kid grew up a diehard Michigan fan and has called Michigan his dream school so many times it's hard to count. There was a lot of talk he almost committed to Michigan coming off his visit to Ann Arbor but he held off, wound up picking the hometown school.
Michigan landing 5* CB Will Johnson was huge. Johnson became close with Jackson and is still trying to flip him. A flip would be amazing. Quite honestly I think both could start for Michigan- this year.
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probably nothing, but pics of USC commit 5* CB Domani Jackson wearing Michigan gloves and socks at his HS practice the other day circulating on the internetz.
Michigan geeks in a photo shop lab......I hope
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Michigan geeks in a photo shop lab......I hope
nope, it's real. Jackson is still a Michigan fan at heart. Hopefully they can play on those heart strings before NSD.
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Nebraska is on the board with its first 2022 commitment.
It comes from in the state, with Columbus High School linebacker Ernest Hausmann making his pledge to the Huskers known on Sunday morning.
Other Big Ten schools who had offered included Iowa, Michigan State and Northwestern.
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4* ATH Dillon Tatum releases his top 4 of MSU, Notre Dame, Baylor, and Michigan. He's currently ranked as the #269 recruit and #16 ATH in the country according to the 247Composite. I have a feeling he's going to shoot way up those rankings. He's rated as the #5 player in the state of Michigan. He should be #2.
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https://twitter.com/bryandfischer/status/1369029048479850496?s=21
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MSU picks up a commitment from 3* S Malik Spencer from Buford, GA, over USC, Nebraska, Miami, WVU and ASU.
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Michigan loses 4* DB commit Taylor Groves. He was a potential high riser. Very athletic, fast kid.
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Nebraska football picked up its second commitment of the 2022 class on Thursday as Olympia (Fla.) wide receiver Victor Jones Jr., announced his pledge on social media.
The 6-foot-2, 184-pound prospect from Florida has yet to visit Lincoln, but was offered by Nebraska’s staff in October 2020. It was a bit of a surprise commitment but Jones told Husker247 that he’d been leaning Nebraska for some time.
In addition to the Huskers, Jones held offers from Arkansas, West Virginia, Kentucky, Cincinnati and others. Jones is a three-star prospect with an overall rating of 85 according to 247Sports, and holds a rating of 0.8416 in the industry-generated 247Sports Composite.
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“The NCAA Council this week is expected to set an end date of June 1 for the long-standing recruiting dead period, multiple sources told CBS Sports,” Dodd wrote. “The dead period was imposed in March 2020 after COVID-19 shut down college sports. It was extended eight times over the past year as the global pandemic raged, the last time in February.
“With widespread distribution of the coronavirus vaccine, it has become easier to envision more in-person contact, including football camps and official visits, beginning in June. For more than a year, college football coaches have been able to do little more in recruiting than hold Zoom calls with prospects.”
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4* WR Tyler Morris (6', 175) of Illinois - the #80 player overall and #10 WR in the nation commits to Michigan. Morris attends the same HS as Michigan true frosh QB JJ McCarthy.
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Bucks lose Dasan McCullough to the Hoosiers. His dad coaches there and both his brothers will play there too, so that's kind of cool.
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That sux and I want to hear his name - no more 😎
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Bucks lose Dasan McCullough to the Hoosiers. His dad coaches there and both his brothers will play there too, so that's kind of cool.
They hired his dad to replace Mike Hart. So...things looking up for IU
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Below, we have constructed a list of what we consider the Sunshine State's 10 fastest recruits in the class of 2022. Please note that there's only so many data points readily available as not every FBS recruit runs track or participates in offseason camps. That means there might be some speedsters out there that we don't know about heading into the summer months. The goal, however, is to discover them by the time the Early Signing Period rolls around.
WR VICTOR JONES JR. (NEBRASKA COMMIT)
https://247sports.com/college/nebraska/LongFormArticle/Floridas-fastest-2022-football-recruits-Sunshine-State-Chandler-Smith-Daylen-Everette-Jacolby-Spells-Devaughn-Mortimer-Vic-Jones-165706510/#165706510_1 (https://247sports.com/college/nebraska/LongFormArticle/Floridas-fastest-2022-football-recruits-Sunshine-State-Chandler-Smith-Daylen-Everette-Jacolby-Spells-Devaughn-Mortimer-Vic-Jones-165706510/#165706510_1)
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Hoping Quinn Ewers keeps his Joe Exotic mullet:
https://twitter.com/PFF_College/status/1399828658928467968
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Four star receiver Kaleb Brown commits to the Bucks out of Chicago
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Nebraska got its first commitment from this past weekend's visitors, though surely not the last.
Chase Androff, the tight end from Lakeville, Minnesota, announced his commitment to the Huskers on Monday night. He announced he was "100 percent committed" on social media, becoming the third pledge in this 2022 Nebraska recruiting class.
The 6-foot-6, 230-pound Androff got to spend quality time with Scott Frost and tight ends coach Sean Beckton, as well as offensive lineman Bryce Benhart, who comes from the same Minnesota town.
He joins linebacker Ernest Hausmann and wide receiver Victor Jones Jr. as members of the Husker class, and NU staffers are no doubt hoping is the springboard for a big summer now that official visits to campus are now allowed.
Androff is rated 60th nationally among tight ends, and as the seventh-ranked prospect in the state of Minnesota by 247Sports.
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Nebraska secured a commitment on Monday from Richard Torres, the 2022 prospect who had just visited Lincoln last weekend. After also making a trip to Kansas State in recent days, the quarterback made his commitment known on social media.
Out of the San Antonio area, the 6-5, 210-pound Torres is quick on his feet, but also has impressed at various camps with his ability to put some zip on his passes even in tough conditions.
In the spring, 247Sports offered this analysis, "Richard Torres showed one of the biggest arms at the camp. Torres and (No. 1 overall five-star Quinn) Ewers were the only quarterbacks who beat a stiff wind on multiple downfield shots. Torres is raw but big-framed and athletic, with a background in basketball as well, and his upside makes him particularly intriguing."
Torres, No. 59 among 2022 quarterbacks on the 247Sports Composite, also ran a 4.50-second shuttle time at the Dallas regional.
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Looks like MSU forced Texas to offer a full scholarship to local Austin kicker Will Stone. MSU was his first offer a week ago. Texas was trying to get him in as a PWO, but I'm guessing they still get him, but costing a scholarship
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Looks like MSU forced Texas to offer a full scholarship to local Austin kicker Will Stone. MSU was his first offer a week ago. Texas was trying to get him in as a PWO, but I'm guessing they still get him, but costing a scholarship
Committed to Texas today
Hopefully he sends MSU a thank you card for getting him a full ride to his hometown dream school
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that's one less 5 star for the Horns
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MSU lands 3* OT Braden Miller from Colorado over Michigan, Nebraska, Tennessee and Miami, among others. Visited MSU two weeks ago, and KSU last weekend. Was supposed to still visit Stanford, Michigan and Missouri, but cancelled those visits and committed to MSU.
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MSU lands 3* OT Braden Miller from Colorado over Michigan, Nebraska, Tennessee and Miami, among others. Visited MSU two weeks ago, and KSU last weekend. Was supposed to still visit Stanford, Michigan and Missouri, but cancelled those visits and committed to MSU.
3* OT Ryan Baer from Ohio was supposed to visit this weekend, so it may have been a commit now, or we'll take Baer's commitment situation.
Baer likely to Illinois or Kentucky now?
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MSU adds 3* TE Michael Masunas from Arizona, over FSU, Tennessee, Maryland and Arizona.
He is HS teammates with 3/4* QB Nicco Marchiol, who recently decommitted from FSU, and visited MSU.
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MSU also adds 3* WR Jaron Glover from Florida, over Tennessee, WVU, Indiana and Maryland
Wasn't even on the radar when he committed this morning.
MSU was at times thought to be the leader for a couple 4* WRs, instate Antonio Gates Jr. (yes, his son). His dad spent his freshman year at MSU, but left for Kent State because Saban wouldn't let him play basketball. And also Kevin Thomas from Philly. But I don't think they can take anymore WRs now, so the fact they were willing to take this kid's commitment, rather than waiting the other two out, must mean they like him quite a bit.
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Committed to Texas today
Hopefully he sends MSU a thank you card for getting him a full ride to his hometown dream school
Well, after losing out on Will Stone from Austin to Texas, they turned around and got Jack Stone from Dallas.
They were really dialed into the kickers from Texas named Stone market this recruiting cycle.
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Four star RB Dallan Hayden commits the Bucks out of Tennessee
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Four star RB Dallan Hayden commits the Bucks out of Tennessee
For good or bad- that’s the guy they really wanted.
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MSU pushing hard to flip Katin Houser from Boise State. Ever since losing A.J. Duffy, he's been their clear #2 QB choice, so this would be big. Prior to going to the Elite 11 finals next month his offers blew up, and he planned to still take all of his officials. He then cancelled his trips to UNC, UCLA and Duke, but kept his visit to MSU last weekend.
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Hoping Quinn Ewers keeps his Joe Exotic mullet:
https://twitter.com/PFF_College/status/1399828658928467968
Absolutely sucks that Ohio State got Ewers. He's the best, most talented HS QB the state of Texas has seen since Matt Stafford. He's a future #1 NFL draft pick. Like Ohio State really needs him. FML.
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MSU pushing hard to flip Katin Houser from Boise State. Ever since losing A.J. Duffy, he's been their clear #2 QB choice, so this would be big. Prior to going to the Elite 11 finals next month his offers blew up, and he planned to still take all of his officials. He then cancelled his trips to UNC, UCLA and Duke, but kept his visit to MSU last weekend.
Bunch of CBs from the West Coast guys have begun flipping to MSU
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MSU picks up 3* DB Shannon Blair from Tennessee, over Purdue, Virginia, Maryland and Duke
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UW's been loading up this past week. I'll compile a list of commits over the weekend.
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Actually 2021 news, but top five recruit J.T. Tuimoloau cancelled a trip to Alabama, who many thought might be the landing spot for him. Sounds as if he's down to Washington, USC, Oregon, and OSU, with OSU and Oregon leading.
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the good OSU, I presume?
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the good OSU, I presume?
THE OSU. :)
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3* OT Ryan Baer from Ohio was supposed to visit this weekend, so it may have been a commit now, or we'll take Baer's commitment situation.
Baer likely to Illinois or Kentucky now?
Or maybe they are taking another OL. Baer just cancelled his ND visit abruptly, and MSU clearly has him #1 on their board
From Rivals:
July decision for Ryan Baer, which has always been the plan. Michigan State is all in on him. They will miss on Alessandro Lorenzetti, but Kapilovic was honest with Lorenzetti and told him that he has to wait out Baer's decision.
He made that decision based on want, not an indication from the Baer family. So it will be full steam ahead on Baer for the final offensive line spot. If they miss on Baer there is Goodwin looming still.
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MSU pushing hard to flip Katin Houser from Boise State. Ever since losing A.J. Duffy, he's been their clear #2 QB choice, so this would be big. Prior to going to the Elite 11 finals next month his offers blew up, and he planned to still take all of his officials. He then cancelled his trips to UNC, UCLA and Duke, but kept his visit to MSU last weekend.
Got him, and he's planning to enroll early. It was pretty clear Duffy was MSU's #1 choice, but I think this is a pretty solid 2nd choice, and we got him.
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Iowa's Rivals reporters saying ISU is out, and it's Iowa or MSU for 3* DE Simba Carter from Minneapolis.
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(https://i.imgur.com/hMGaEZ0.png)
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(https://i.imgur.com/hMGaEZ0.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/DGYYCfs.jpg)
Should have waited til today, when Ryan Ramczyk became the highest paid RT in the NFL
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He's really good.
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Four star corner Terrance Brooks commits to the Bucks out of Texas. #58 on 247.
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Iowa's Rivals reporters saying ISU is out, and it's Iowa or MSU for 3* DE Simba Carter from Minneapolis.
Confirmed. A month or so ago I thought MSU was out here
https://twitter.com/JiggyCdot/status/1410358941914210310?s=19
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Four star receiver Kojo Antwi commits to the Bucks out of Georgia
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Four star corner Terrance Brooks commits to the Bucks out of Texas. #58 on 247.
I don't know who recruits Texas for Ohio State but he is worth his weight in gold. OSU does a great job there.
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I don't know who recruits Texas for Ohio State but he is worth his weight in gold. OSU does a great job there.
I don't know that they have a Texas person. They seem to go more by position coach than region.
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so THAT's the secret sauce!?
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3* TE Jack Nickel flips from Notre Dame to MSU
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Four star offensive tackle George Fitzpatrick commits to the Bucks out of Colorado
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It's 2021, but I can't find that thread. Pirates just drafted 4* WR Lonnie Walker Jr., who was committed to Penn State
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1st round? big money??
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1st round? big money??
2nd round. $1.05 million. Pirates turned around and took a QB committed to Clemson in the 3rd. Some thought this was the plan all along, which is why they went with a signability guy 1-1, to go under slot, and use that money on these two.
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Well, after losing out on Will Stone from Austin to Texas, they turned around and got Jack Stone from Dallas.
They were really dialed into the kickers from Texas named Stone market this recruiting cycle.
https://twitter.com/C_Robinson247/status/1414938596532969481?s=20
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Jacksonville (Fla.) The Bolles School defensive lineman Hayden Schwartz announced his commitment to Nebraska on Wednesday afternoon. He chose to play for the Huskers over Michigan, Missouri and 29 other scholarship opportunities.
The 6-foot-4, 244-pound Schwartz is pledge No. 8 for head coach Scott Frost and his staff in the 2022 recruiting class.
Tabbed by 247Sports as the No. 47 defensive lineman in the class, Schwartz had 14 tackles for loss and four sacks in helping Bolles go 10-3 last fall. He loves his fit coming into Nebraska’s defense.
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MSU may be throwing away birds in the hand for two in the bush at WR, that they aren't getting.
I'm getting the impression this staff's strategy is they have no Plan B's. It's all Plan A's, and you go to the portal to fill in the gaps.
Not sure that's a sustainable strategy (a) at MSU or (b) post immediate waivers
Also, I hate it
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hey, going against michigan isn't easy
home run or nothing
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Confirmed. A month or so ago I thought MSU was out here
https://twitter.com/JiggyCdot/status/1410358941914210310?s=19
Committed to MSU tonight. Didn't see that one coming. Really tight recruitment. I wasn't even aware of anyone other than Iowa, ISU, Nebraska and Minnesota being involved.
Ill take a DE that goes by Simba that Iowa wants any day of the week thougb
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rather Sparty than Hawkeye
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4* WR Antonio Gates Jr. commits to MSU
His dad enrolled at MSU, wanted to play football and basketball, Saban told him no, so he went to Kent State to play basketball, and, well...
Hopefully Jr. is half as good as his dad
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A story out today saying uber recruit Quinn Ewers may enroll this fall so he can start making that money.
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MSU picks up 4* DT Alex VanSumeren, a UM decommit, who had offers from Alabama, Clemson and Florida State as well.
Nice get
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Nebraska football added to its 2022 recruiting class on Friday afternoon, picking up a commitment from St. Rita (Ill.) offensive lineman Valen Erickson.
The 6-foot-6, 280-pound Erickson officially visited Nebraska on June 4, and returned to Lincoln on Friday on an unofficial visit where he pulled the trigger on a commitment.
Erickson is the first offensive line commit of Nebraska’s 2022 class, and the ninth overall commitment in the class.
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Kind of crazy. OSU's top defensive recruit, CB Jaheim Singletary decommits. And their top offensive recruit, Quinn Ewers, has reclassified and will report to camp tomorrow for what is now a 4 way QB competition.
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Kind of crazy. OSU's top defensive recruit, CB Jaheim Singletary decommits. And their top offensive recruit, Quinn Ewers, has reclassified and will report to camp tomorrow for what is now a 4 way QB competition.
More NIL money elsewhere?
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like Bama?
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More NIL money elsewhere?
He's a Florida kid. So you know...kind of weird
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Ewers not quite enrolled yet. Though OSU started camp today. So everyone is asking about him. But he isn't enrolled and hasn't signed anything yet, so coaches can't talk about him because he's still a recruit. Awkward!
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apparently smart enough to be admitted w/o a HS degree?
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apparently smart enough to be admitted w/o a HS degree?
When did that stop an OSU student before?
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When did that stop an OSU student before?
you spelled athlete incorrectly
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'We Ain't Come to Play School'
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Sounds like 3* WR TayShawn Trent mat have been processed out at UM
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Sounds like 3* WR TayShawn Trent mat have been processed out at UM
why lol? it's not exactly like Michigan has ton of young stud WR's. Especially after losing Xavier Worthy to Texas.
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why lol? it's not exactly like Michigan has ton of young stud WR's. Especially after losing Xavier Worthy to Texas.
No clue. Just some speculation on the UM boards. Some rumors that they may be targeting MSU commit Tyrell Henry after the SBSM camp.
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MSU adds 4* in state RB Jaden Mangham, and moves up to the #15 class in the nation.
That sounds pretty good until you realize 6 of the 7 Big Ten East schools are in the top 22. The highest West school is Northwestern at #30
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MSU adds 4* in state RB Jaden Mangham, and moves up to the #15 class in the nation.
That sounds pretty good until you realize 6 of the 7 Big Ten East schools are in the top 22. The highest West school is Northwestern at #30
Who is the odd man out in the East?
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Who is the odd man out in the East?
Maryland. Who had a very good 2021 class, but has no 4/5* commits yet in 2022.
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UW won't be very high this year. The class is too small.
Franklin has 24 commits so far. Did he run off players? Lots of transfers?
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UW won't be very high this year. The class is too small.
Franklin has 24 commits so far. Did he run off players? Lots of transfers?
Sandbagger. I have more respect for the Badgers player development than anyone’s.
whenever you go against them you have a bunch of dudes you never heard of knocking the shit out your teams’ guys.
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Seriously? Indiana isn't the odd man out in the East??
How did they get all the way up to 22nd?
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Michigan made huge surge with 5* OT Josh Connerly Jr. from Washington- who was on hand to watch Michigan pummel his hometown team. Michigan was already leading before the visit- this one may have put the nail in the coffin. His other schools in the top 3 were Washington and USC. Washington looks like an offensive mess and USC just fired it's coach.
Speaking of USC....5* USC commit Domani Jackson of California was also on hand to watch Michigan vs Washington. He's become very tight with 5* Michigan commit Will Johnson. Things are getting very interesting with this one. Before the season I'd say Michigan had little shot. That visit high and that atmosphere + staying with Will Johnson all weekend + USC cleaning house.....Michigan right back in the thick of it for him.
Jackson & Johnson both better right now as HS seniors than Gemon Green or Vincent Gray. These guys walk onto the field and start as true freshman if they come.
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All-World 5* CB Domani Jackson (#5 player in the nation, #2 CB, and #1 player in California) says he's still "100% committed to USC for right now" - but is basically down to 3 schools - USC, Michigan, and Alabama.
Jackson just set the state of California 100m HS record with a 10.25. That's blazing fast. Kid is a genetic freak of nature at 6-1, 190 with that kind of speed. I am getting my hopes up right now if you can't tell. The idea of Jackson at one side of the field and Will Johnson (5*, #13 player in the nation, #4 CB, and #1 player in MI) who is a legit 6'2+, 190+ on the other side of the field is insane. Johnson isn't quite as fast but he's legit 4.4's and a genetic mutant himself as he is son of a former Michigan/NFL player. Both these kids are plug and play day one starters and better right now as high school seniors than any CB's that Michigan has on it's roster not named Dax Hill (when he plays snaps at CB that is).
Dax Hill is probably 99.99% gone after this year to the NFL- but would be a dream come true if he returned and Domani Jackson decided to join Will Johnson and come to Ann Arbor.
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usually the social media stuff is all bullshit, but Will Johnson and Domani Jackson both posting lot of stuff on instagram and twitter about playing together and pictures of them in Michigan gear. My hopes are officially up. Will & Domani struck up a genuine friendship at some camp a couple years ago and have become very close friends.
Domani grew up a Michigan fan and many times has referred to Michigan as his dream school. Believe his dad is originally from Ohio and is a big Michigan fan and imparted that fandom unto the son.
Said it before and I'll say it again- even in the photo ops of them together wearing Michigan uniforms that they keep blasting all over social media- they look more physically impressive as high school seniors than any CB's on Michigan's roster. These dudes are day 1 plug-n-play starters at CB and 1st round NFL draft picks in 3 years.
Getting them to come in together completely changes the outlook for a future defense. When you have two shutdown CB's like that who can each take away one side of the field- my god it makes it so much easier to play defense. And aside from recruiting an elite QB- I'd say recruiting an elite CB might be the hardest position to recruit. Getting two to come in one class- that'd just be absurd.
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coupla crystal ballzzzzz coming in for Michigan for OMEEEEERG FIVE STARRRRZ 5* OT Josh Connerly Jr. of Washington.
Can't hurt that he just visited Michigan and watched their OL dominate his hometown team and run the ball down their throat for like a billion yards.
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4* WR Armani Winfield, a Texas commit, recently took an OV to MSU, and is apparently returning this weekend, on his own dime
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Nebraska quarterback commit Richard Torres’ senior season has been cut short by a season-ending ACL injury.
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:sorry:
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4* ATH Dillon Tatum (5-11, 190) of Michigan announces he's going to commit next week the 29th. Michigan State lock. Seemed to be leaning to Michigan early on- then it all fell apart there and Michigan State came surging back. Still don't know what happened in that one for Michigan. Sounds like there might be some bad blood there. Don't know the deal. Regardless, I think it sucks. Would love to have him at Michigan. He's an excellent prospect.
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4* ATH Dillon Tatum (5-11, 190) of Michigan announces he's going to commit next week the 29th. Michigan State lock. Seemed to be leaning to Michigan early on- then it all fell apart there and Michigan State came surging back. Still don't know what happened in that one for Michigan. Sounds like there might be some bad blood there. Don't know the deal. Regardless, I think it sucks. Would love to have him at Michigan. He's an excellent prospect.
Sounds like MSU might benefit from UM pulling the plug. It seems like he was torn between the two, and was leaning towards going out of state, so that he didn't have to pick one over the other. Michigan sort of stopped recruiting him, then he no longer felt bad about picking one, and is now leaning MSU. If Michigan had kept recruiting him, he'd probably be going to Tennessee
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So don't go with one or two but pick 3? :017:
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Sounds like MSU might benefit from UM pulling the plug. It seems like he was torn between the two, and was leaning towards going out of state, so that he didn't have to pick one over the other. Michigan sort of stopped recruiting him, then he no longer felt bad about picking one, and is now leaning MSU. If Michigan had kept recruiting him, he'd probably be going to Tennessee
Heard he's not a fan of Clinkscale. Sounds like he wasn't a fan of the hire and that he just doesn't click with Clink.
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Arch Manning recruitment: Steve Wiltfong updates latest after Georgia visit (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/college/georgia/Article/Arch-Manning-recruitment-Steve-Wiltfong-updates-latest-after-Georgia-visit-171612698/?fbclid=IwAR3BIsCcx8RVfypEiiehmQJ-86xlYPIkx74CBpyiz8leOQ-1sINPxmBg0cY)
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Arch Manning recruitment: Steve Wiltfong updates latest after Georgia visit (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/college/georgia/Article/Arch-Manning-recruitment-Steve-Wiltfong-updates-latest-after-Georgia-visit-171612698/?fbclid=IwAR3BIsCcx8RVfypEiiehmQJ-86xlYPIkx74CBpyiz8leOQ-1sINPxmBg0cY)
Wonder if he's any good. Lol.
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Michigan lands 247Composite 3.5* DT Kenneth Grant (6'4, 335) out of Indiana. Grant was one of the top guys on their board at DT. One of the top recruiting guys over at 247 Steve Witflong says Grant is due for a ratings bump- and had been saying this before he committed to Michigan.
Other guys on that board are 247Composite #1 player in the nation 5* DT Walter Nolen (6'4, 325) out of Tennessee and 247Composite 4* DT Deone Walker (6'6, 350) out of Michigan. Nolen will be a battle to the end and tough pull, but his family is originally from Detroit and still have a lot of family there. Walker goes to Detroit Cass Tech and is leaning towards Michigan.
Oddly enough, landing Grant and Walker would actually improve Michigan's chances with Nolen. He's clicked with those two on visits and he's looking to come in with other top prospects in the DT room. He's specifically said he's not looking to come in by himself and do all the heavy lifting and get beat up.
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So Grant was saying that he was due for a ratings bump?Cocky Bastage,looks like a good pick up,perhaps a Taco in the making
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Wonder if he's any good. Lol.
I presume so, don't really know except the obvious and he's highly rated. The 5 star guys do tend to end up being quite good across positions.
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Michigan lands 247Composite 3.5* DT Kenneth Grant (6'4, 335) out of Indiana. Grant was one of the top guys on their board at DT.
UW really wanted him. Great pickup.
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I presume so, don't really know except the obvious and he's highly rated. The 5 star guys do tend to end up being quite good across positions.
It was a joke lol. Kid is a Manning. Grandpa was an all-time great college player and #2 overall NFL draft pick. Uncle Peyton was an all-time great college player, #1 overall NFL draft pick and HOF QB. Uncle Eli was a very good college player, #1 overall NFL draft pick and 2x Super Bowl winning QB.
My guess is the kid is going to be pretty damn good.
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I knew you were kidding about his pedigree, but the truth is, other than that, I don't know a thing about him beyond his rating.
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4* ATH Dillon Tatum commits to Michigan State. Nice pick-up by Sparty.
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MSU WR commit Jaron Glover from Florida just got a bump to a near 4*. The good news is that he took a visit to FSU for the loss to Jacksonville State.
He's undersized, but is a favorite to win the state title in the 200 and 400 in states come fall. Give me the fastest kid in Florida, and let the coaches figure it out.
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4* ATH Dillon Tatum commits to Michigan State. Nice pick-up by Sparty.
Even the MSU writers who admittedly say they have no UM connections said the bad blood between Tatum and Clinkscale ended this one. I'm not sure I've ever heard that before.
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Even the MSU writers who admittedly say they have no UM connections said the bad blood between Tatum and Clinkscale ended this one. I'm not sure I've ever heard that before.
That's what the Michigan writers have been saying. Tatum apparently really liked Don Brown and Mike Zordich but then obviously they both got fired and pushed out the door but he was still feeling Michigan, especially after they hired his high school coach Ron Bellamy. Tatum was still all good to go and apparently really liked new Co-DC and DB's coach Maurice Linguist and was seemingly going to commit to Michigan in April. Linguist then takes the head job at UofBuffalo after being at Michigan for all of 5 minutes, Michigan hires Clinkscale- and then Tatum decides to hold off on his commitment and backs off the April date. Apparently Tatum just did not vibe with/click with/trust Clinkscale at all for whatever reason. Must be some kind of real bad blood there, considering he was all set to commit to Michigan in April, two of his best friends & high school teammates Makari Paige and Donovan Edwards are at Michigan, and his former HS head coach is there as well coaching safeties- the position he'll likely be playing in college.
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For the Michigan State fan(s) here (@ELA), I noticed the recruiting profile of one of Sparty’s football commits is also a basketball recruiting profile. Tre Holloman of St. Paul Minnesota, ranked as the 51st CB is also the nation’s 10th ranked Point Guard, as recruited by Tom Izzo.
I’m guessing he’ll be a two-sport guy? Which I’ve hardly seen as a featured thing since the 90s/early-2000s. Think McNabb at Syracuse or Peppers at UNC.
Tre Holloman: https://247sports.com/player/tre-holloman-46056913/
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For the Michigan State fan(s) here (@ELA), I noticed the recruiting profile of one of Sparty’s football commits is also a basketball recruiting profile. Tre Holloman of St. Paul Minnesota, ranked as the 51st CB is also the nation’s 10th ranked Point Guard, as recruited by Tom Izzo.
I’m guessing he’ll be a two-sport guy? Which I’ve hardly seen as a featured thing since the 90s/early-2000s. Think McNabb at Syracuse or Peppers at UNC.
Tre Holloman: https://247sports.com/player/tre-holloman-46056913/
two sport guys don't work out. takes so much to become great at one sport- but especially football where the best players are usually the ones with best fundamentals & technique and that can formation read and guess tendencies and read plays before snap and react before the play happens- and that takes A LOT of hard work & study. Impossible to dedicate the kind of time it takes to become a great player in football and then try to do another sport.
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For the Michigan State fan(s) here (@ELA), I noticed the recruiting profile of one of Sparty’s football commits is also a basketball recruiting profile. Tre Holloman of St. Paul Minnesota, ranked as the 51st CB is also the nation’s 10th ranked Point Guard, as recruited by Tom Izzo.
I’m guessing he’ll be a two-sport guy? Which I’ve hardly seen as a featured thing since the 90s/early-2000s. Think McNabb at Syracuse or Peppers at UNC.
Tre Holloman: https://247sports.com/player/tre-holloman-46056913/
He is only being recruited for basketball. If he plays football down the road, I'll be surprised. Two current members of the football team (Keon Coleman and Maliq Carr) might try to play basketball
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MSU WR commit Jaron Glover from Florida just got a bump to a near 4*. The good news is that he took a visit to FSU for the loss to Jacksonville State.
He's undersized, but is a favorite to win the state title in the 200 and 400 in states come fall. Give me the fastest kid in Florida, and let the coaches figure it out.
As much as FSU sucks, the crazy thing is they are still recruiting well. 5* CB of Georgia, Travis Hunter is the #1 CB and #2 player in the nation in the updated 247Composite. And is an FSU commit. FSU actually has a top 10 recruiting class, believe it or not.
And yeah, I'll take the fastest kid in FL, TX, & Cali all goddamn day long and let the coaches figure it out. Xavier Worthy- prime example- already showing out for Texas as a true frosh. I'll never get over that one. Michigan admissions office completely bungled that one.
5* CB Domani Jackson the #2 CB and #5 player overall in 247Composite just broke California state record in the 100m with a 10.25. That's insane speed for a high school kid. He is an absolute must get flip for Michigan coaches. Hopefully Dante Williams keeps getting blown at USC and new coach is like, hard pass, I'm bringing my own DB guy in.
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Miami and FSU still recruiting well
proximity to recruits
still need a coaching staff
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Miami and FSU still recruiting well
proximity to recruits
still need a coaching staff
shocking to me that neither team can land a great coach. should be two of the easiest jobs to turn around. the ACC is terrible and Miami & FSU can recruit Florida & Georgia alone and build stud rosters.
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4* OLB/DE Mario Eugenio (6'3, 240) of Florida decommits from Michigan. Sounds like it might an academics issue. Also- rumors that another Wolverines commit- 3* WR Tay'Shawn Trent (6'4, 210) of Michigan may have similar issues and be out of the class as well.
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Man just time for the NFL to start a minor league - it was fun while it lasted.
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All the talk is that both were processed out.
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All the talk is that both were processed out.
Not sure processed is the right word. Sounds like both have academic issues that they haven’t taken care of.
Regardless, Harbaugh is kinda notorious for processing recruits.
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Things between Michigan and Clemson commit 4* S Keon Sabb (6'2, 200) who is ranked in the 247Composite as the #79 player overall in the nation and the #6 safety - appear to be picking up steam. Sabb will be visiting Ann Arbor for an official.
My god they need to flip Domani Jackson & Keon Sabb. Will be an insane DB class if they can pull it off.
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Nebraska is putting together the final pieces though adding a critical one with former Kansas State commitment Gage Stenger from Omaha (Neb.) Millard South. Stenger is the ninth known commitment for Nebraska in this year's class.
Nebraska is adding the top player from the top-rated high school team in the state to their 2022 class. Stenger has been a Kansas State commitment since June 26th flipped on his commitment to the Wildcats shortly after receiving the offer from Nebraska.
Stenger is likely being brought into the recruiting class as a defensive athlete and will possibly play linebacker. Stenger will join linebacker commits Ernest Hausmann of Columbus and Jake Appleget from Lincoln Southeast in the class.
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Four star defensive end Kenyatta Jackson commits to the Buckeyes out of Florida. #78 on the 247 composite
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3 star OL Avery Henry committed to the Bucks out of St. Clairsville, Ohio.
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3 star OL Avery Henry committed to the Bucks out of St. Clairsville, Ohio.
Not for long
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247Sports updates their own internal rankings. They have a new #1 overall in their rankings- CB Travis Hunter- an FSU commit from Georgia- this pushes him into the #1 overall spot in the 247Composite rankings as well- up from #2 overall. 5* DT Walter Nolen of Tennessee had long been #1 player overall in the 247Composite.
Michigan had 3 commits jump into 247's updated internal Top247 rankings; DT Mason Graham of California (4*, #213 overall, #32 DL), LB Kevonte Henry of California (4*, #200 overall, #14 EDGE), and TE Colston Loveland of Idaho (4*, #246 overall, #9 TE). However, all 3 still remain 3* in the 247Composite.
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5* OT Zach Rice (6-6, 280) of Virginia commits to North Carolina. Rice is rated as the #1 OT and the #9 player overall in the nation by the 247Composite rankings. He's the second 5* commit in the 2022 class for Mack Brown.
How in the fuh is this guy even getting anyone to commit to him still let alone OMGGGERRRG 5 STARZZZZ and 4*'s? He's like 145 years old and on top of it he's a lousy coach.
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An Analysis Of College Football Recruiting Costs
During the 2019 fiscal year, Georgia became the first school to surpass the $3 million mark in college football recruiting expenses, blowing past it after investing $3,676,858 into football recruiting last fiscal year – more than $1 million more than its nation-leading $2.62M spent in 2018.
Thirty-eight of the 52 public Power Five schools spent more on college football recruiting than they did in 2018. On average, public Power Five schools spent $103,478 more on recruiting, per school, than they did during the previous recruiting cycle, continuing an upwards trend in the investment on the recruiting trail across the sport.
Financial data was obtained via NCAA Financial Reports acquired by AthleticDirectorU via public records requests. Data is unavailable for 11 private institutions in the Power Five. Pitt isn’t required to comply with public records requests as a state-related institution.
https://www.athleticdirectoru.com/articles/an-analysis-of-football-recruiting-costs/ (https://www.athleticdirectoru.com/articles/an-analysis-of-football-recruiting-costs/)
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OK Michigan needs to step it's game way the F up and start spending like the big boys. They have the damn money.
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2022 UCLA commit Justyn Martin
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Vandy's highest rated recruit, 3* CB Caleb Coley, has decommitted and is expected to flip to MSU
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https://www.cleveland.com/osu/2021/11/will-penn-state-commits-drew-allar-and-kaden-saunders-make-ohio-state-regret-letting-them-leave-college-football-monday-madness.html
Two Ohio recruits to PSU
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DE James Schott from IN flips from Miami(Ohio) to MSU. Zero P5 offers, but too early for a Plan C guy. Hopefully this is a 2012 Dantonio MAC flip and not a 2017 Dantonio MAC flip
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So a Big MAC
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So a Big MAC
I'm Loving(?) it
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5* DT Walter Nolen (6'4, 325) of Tennessee commits to Texas A&M. Nolen is the #1 DL and #2 player overall in the nation according to 247Sports Composite rankings.
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5* DT Walter Nolen (6'4, 325) of Tennessee commits to Texas A&M. Nolen is the #1 DL and #2 player overall in the nation according to 247Sports Composite rankings.
I thought he was a heavy Michigan lean?
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Buckeyes get commitment from 5 Star safety Sonny Styles, who had offers from just about everyone
He is the son of one time OSU star Lorenzo Styles.
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Buckeyes get commitment from 5 Star safety Sonny Styles, who had offers from just about everyone
He is the son of one time OSU star Lorenzo Styles.
he's 2023.
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I thought he was a heavy Michigan lean?
Noooooo. His mother and her family are from Detroit- I believe his mother and her family wanted him to go to Michigan- but he was never a heavy lean there. He seemed enamored with the SEC from the start- but Michigan made it's pitch and got in the top 5 or so- and my guess is that was largely based on Mom.
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USC commit 5* CB Domani Jackson (6'1, 185) - the #6 player overall in the nation, #2 CB, and #1 player in the state of California according to the 247Composite Rankings- has gotten a couple of crystal ballzzzz picks for Alabama from Steve Witflong- 247Sports' main recruiting analyst and another from Hank South- the head writer over at Alabama's 247 site. Both BALLZ have low confidence levels of 4- however Domani Jackson seems to be leaning to Bama coming off his official visit he took there last week- which blew his socks off.
According to some insiders over at the Bama/USC boards- Jackson may have been leaning towards Michigan- until...they lost to Michigan State. Apparently Domani desperately wants to win championships and play in the playoffs. Michigan being 10-0 right now with a shot to knock off a shitty Maryland team and be 11-0 heading into the Ohio State would've made a world of difference with this kid. Michigan went from running 1st to running 3rd- and unless they can somehow finesse him to comeback to visit for Ohio State game and miraculously upset the Buckeyes- kid is going to Bama.
Harbaugh beefing a 16 point lead with 18-19 mins left in the game vs MSU probably cost him 5* Domani Jackson- and it just sucks because he grew up a diehard Michigan fan and one of his best friends is Michigan commit 5* CB Will Johnson. What a freaking shutdown tandem they could've been. Buying in heavy on both of them- these kids will be 3 years in college and then 1st round NFL Draft picks.
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I thought he was a heavy Michigan lean?
:D,sorry i thought you were yanking his chain
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having said that- wonder if Nolen re-opens the recruitment if Jimbo ups and leaves A&M.
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5* CB Domani Jackson (6-1, 185) de-commits from USC. He's taking his official visit to USC when they host UCLA on the 20th, and he's going to be taking another unofficial trip (his 3rd visit to Michigan this year I might add) out to Michigan the 27th for THE GAME.
No more visits after that- he's going to shut things down and commit live on ESPN on Dec 15th and sign his LOI live on TV as he's an early enrollee.
Dear God- if you exist- please make him sign with Michigan. LOL. Jackson & Johnson would just be a nasty CB duo for 3 years then both off to 1st round of the NFL.
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Plug and play day one starters. Probably the best CB duo Michigan will have ever signed if they pull this off. These are legitimate 5* top 10'ish prospects in the country.
Johnson has excellent length and height and is very fluid with advanced technique (his dad was starting DB at Michigan and NFL player afterall). Jackson is a little bit shorter but legit 6'+ - and he's the speedster of the two- set state record in California in the 100m with a 10.25. Absolute burner.
Those guys automatically change the defense overnight in 2022 if they can pull off the Domani Jackson signing- and if they can get Dax Hill to stick around for his senior season- they'll have one of the best, most athletic secondaries in the entire country by the end of the year in 2022- and they would be able to move Dax back to his natural position of Safety in place of Brad Hawkins.
Dax - S
RJ Moten - S
CB - Will Johnson
CB - Domani Jackson
NB - Rod Moore or DJ Turner
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4* WR Germie Bernard, is a Washington commit, and MSU QB commit Katin Houser's teammate and best friend. With Jimmy Lake out, sounds like Bernard is going to re-open his recruitment. Head east young man
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247Composite 4* LB Jimmy Rolder (6'2, 220) of Illinois commits to Michigan. He's a late riser who just started blowing up with offers and moving up in the rankings a few months ago- getting offers from Florida, LSU, Iowa, Wisconsin, Ohio State, and Michigan.
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whale of a recruiting weekend for Michigan....they need to show up and not get embarassed.
5* CB Domani Jackson (6'1, 185) of California - already took his official to Michigan vs Washington, this will be an unofficial and Michigan gets the last visit - Michigan/Bama battle...Bama presumed to have edge right now and they were his most recent visit. Michigan can make up ground this weekend. He'll be signing Dec. 14th and Michigan will get the last crack to sway him.
5* OT Josh Conerly Jr. (6'5, 275) of Washington - already took his official to Michigan vs Washington, this will be an unofficial. He just canceled his official to Oregon to take an unofficial to Michigan this weekend. - Michigan/USC/Oregon/Washington - Michigan presumed to be leader.
5* OT Kiyaunta Goodwin (6'8, 340) of Indiana - committed to Kentucky - will be an official to Michigan and I believe his last visit. Not sure at all if Michigan has a real shot here- but always have a shot when you get a player on campus- BAMA probably the favorite.
4* ATH Zeke Berry (6', 185) of California - taking an official to Michigan. Michigan/Oregon battle. Michigan presumed to be leader here. Could even be on commit watch depending on how visit goes.
4* DT Deone Walker (6'6, 350) of Michigan. - will be an official to Michigan. He's way high on the board for Michigan, but he seems to be taking visits everywhere else in the SEC and trying to find reasons not to come to Michigan.
4* S Keon Sabb (6'2, 200) of Florida - committed to Clemson - may be taking an official visit to Michigan this weekend. Michigan may have chance at flip here. He's from New Jersey but plays at IMG in Florida. Apparently family wants him closer to Jersey. This could be one to watch if he takes the visit- Clemson has a "no visit" policy for commits- so if he does visit- there's a chance for a flip there.
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Four star QB Devin Brown decommits from USC. Was at the OSU-MSU game.
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Four star QB Devin Brown decommits from USC. Was at the OSU-MSU game.
their class is in shambles. they already had 5*'s Domani Jackson and Mykel Williams de-commit. Brown was their highest rated commitment left in their class.
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whale of a recruiting weekend for Michigan....they need to show up and not get embarassed.
- 5* OT Kiyaunta Goodwin (6'8, 340) of Indiana - committed to Kentucky - will be an official to Michigan and I believe his last visit. Not sure at all if Michigan has a real shot here- but always have a shot when you get a player on campus- BAMA probably the favorite.
He's taking his final OV to MSU next weekend. He is #1 on my board by a mile. It's rare to say an OT is a Day 1 starter, buy he is. His film is as good as any HS OT I've ever seen
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He's taking his final OV to MSU next weekend. He is #1 on my board by a mile. It's rare to say an OT is a Day 1 starter, buy he is. His film is as good as any HS OT I've ever seen
OK so there you have it- MSU will be his final OV. Good to know. Not sure how serious a contender Michigan is, just assumed it was Bama. He's an Indiana kid so you'd think one of the midwest schools would have a great shot at keeping him close to home. Have no idea in hell how Kentucky landed him- but Mark Stoops seems to have been recruiting his ass off the last few classes at Kentucky. He's definitely made them a viable program in the SEC E. It's pretty shocking really- did not think it was even possible for Kentucky to build a real program.
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4* WR Armani Winfield decommits from Texas this afternoon, with multiple CBs coming in for MSU, including from some Texas writers
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krystal ballzzzzz coming in for Michigan for 4* DB's Zeke Berry and Keon Sabb.
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4* WR Armani Winfield decommits from Texas this afternoon, with multiple CBs coming in for MSU, including from some Texas writers
Sounds like they may have flipped 3* DE Zion Young from WVU as well
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Four star QB Devin Brown commits to the Bucks out of Utah
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Be nice if Day started hoarding interior linemen and some LBs/DBs
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Sounds like they may have flipped 3* DE Zion Young from WVU as well
Mel working harder than an ugly stripper like Drew says
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so Michigan whips the Buckeyes and it pays zero dividends on the recruit trail for the 2022 class...
5* CB Domani Jackson from California- the #2 CB in the nation comes on an unofficial visit- his 4th visit to Ann Arbor in about 18 months- a kid who admits he was a silent commit to Michigan last year- who says he grew up a Michigan fan and that Michigan is his dream school- and who stays at his "BFF's" house for the weekend visit- a kid who he says he's "dying to play with" 5* CB Will Johnson - the #4 CB in the nation and Michigan commit - sees Michigan whoop the Buckeyes live and in person- and immediately drops Michigan as soon as he gets back to California. Michigan's biggest win in a decade and Harbaugh's biggest win ever- he's there to witness it live and in person and the kid says nah- no thanks. LOL. Says he's down to USC and Bama.
4* DT Deone Walker from Michigan, cancels his official to Michigan for the Ohio State game- then just announces today he's going to sign on Dec. 15th- and word on the street is it's going to be Kentucky.
Crazy. Sounds like Michigan is suppose to be getting 4* DB Zeke Berry from California tomorrow though, and that 4* ATH Keon Sabb from New Jersey might flip from Clemson to Michigan if Venables goes to Oklahoma. Also sounds like Top 100 4* DE Derrick Moore from Maryland who de-committed from Oklahoma once Riley bolted for USC- is looking heavily at Michigan and has publicly said he will not be going to USC or Oklahoma and that he is re-starting his process from zero. Sounding like Michigan, Penn State, Ohio State, Florida, Oregon, Georgia, and a few others will be the main players here.
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4* DB Zeke Berry (6-0, 195) of California commits to Michigan. Berry is ranked as the #226 player in the nation, #18 S, and #19 player in the state of California in the 247Composite Rankings for the class of 2022. 247's own rankings are more bullish- ranking Berry as the #64 player overall, #8 S, and #7 player in the state of California. The main west coast analyst over at 247- Brandon Huffman- even suggested that in his mind Berry could push for 5* status in 247's own rankings- and he is super-high on Berry's upside. Michigan is looking at him to play mainly their nickelback and be a utility knife in their defensive backfield.
Michigan also gets a commitment from 3* EDGE Ethann Burke (6-7, 225) of Texas. Burke is rated in the 247Composite as the 650 player in the nation, #38 EDGE player, and #88 player in the state of Texas. He's a late bloomer who had been a lacrosse player as a sophomore in HS and been committed to Maryland for that sport. He started playing football as a junior but missed his entire junior season due to a broken collarbone suffered early his JR year. He had a strong senior season registering 49 solo tackles, 12 tackles for loss, and nine sacks. Michigan, Baylor, Nebraska, Utah, TCU, and Kansas State all took notice of his senior year, offering him a scholarship in the last month. Michigan staff is apparently very high on him, and not going to question their track record at finding diamonds in the rough (looking at you: Zak Zinter, Hassan Haskins, Ronnie Bell, Andrew Vastardis, Kwity Paye, and many others I am forgetting).
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Clemson commit 4* S Keon Sabb (6'2, 200) on flip watch to Michigan now that Venables has bolted for Oklahoma.
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4* DB Keon Sabb (6'2, 200) the #80 ranked player in the nation and #8 safety has de-committed from Clemson. Michigan looks to be in great position here.
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Texas A&M might finish with the best recruiting class ever on paper. Does not make sense to me.
Jimbo's last year at FSU he was 5-6. So his last 5 years as a coach have been:
5-6
9-4
8-5
9-1
8-4
Jimbo's MNC was like 9 years ago. When most of these kids were 8-9 years old. Pretty soon Jimbo/A&M will actually have to, you know, win big- like 12+, CCG and get into the playoff, no?
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2023 five star safety and Buckeye commit Sonny Styles plans to reclassify into the 2022 class. The Lord taketh away and the Lord giveth.
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2023 five star safety and Buckeye commit Sonny Styles plans to reclassify into the 2022 class. The Lord taketh away and the Lord giveth.
man this is the second year in a row OSU has had a 5* reclassify and leave school a year early. not sure on this kids situation, but in general, i think things like this are a bad idea. be a kid. have a senior year. only get to do it once.
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man this is the second year in a row OSU has had a 5* reclassify and leave school a year early. not sure on this kids situation, but in general, i think things like this are a bad idea. be a kid. have a senior year. only get to do it once.
It was already a thing in basketball, and I bet with the flow of money towards athletes will become a more common thing in football too
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Michigan lands 4* OL Andrew Gentry (6-8, 310) from Colorado. Gentry was ranked as a top 100 player (#88 overall) and the #8 OT in the nation in the 247Composite in the Class of 2020.
Kid is a mormon, did a two-year mission and completed it, originally signed an LOI with Virginia but never enrolled as he went on his mormon mission. He's done with the mission and will be enrolling in Michigan with the class of 2022.
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It was already a thing in basketball, and I bet with the flow of money towards athletes will become a more common thing in football too
basketball is a child and woman's game. football is a game for grown ass men. bad idea for kids to skip a year of development. unless this kid is built like Adrian Peterson was when Peterson was in high school- I say yeah- stay in school brother.
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4* Safety Xavier Nwankpa (6'2, 190) from Iowa commits to the Iowa Hawkeyes over Ohio State and Notre Dame. Nwankpa is rated as the #45 player overall and #5 safety in the nation in the 247Composite. 247's own rankings are even more bullish, ranking him as a 5*, the #1 safety, and #11 player in the nation.
Kid is a big-time get for Iowa. Just glad he decided to stay home and play for Iowa and not go to Ohio State :)
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2023 five star safety and Buckeye commit Sonny Styles plans to reclassify into the 2022 class. The Lord taketh away and the Lord giveth.
just browsing the OSU commit list...that's a whale of a LB'er class with Styles re-classifying. This is me assuming of course that Styles will grow into a LB'er- which imo- he probably will considering he's not even a SR in high school yet and he's that size.
5* CJ Hicks (6'3, 215)
5* Sonny Styles (6'4, 215)
4* Gabe Powers (6'4, 230) - Top 100 recruit
All from Ohio. That's the kind of class Day needs to stop Harbaugh from ramming the ball down his throat on the ground in the future. Lacking the big uglies upfront so far to keep them clean though. Lots of time til NSD of course.
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All from Ohio. That's the kind of class Day needs to stop Harbaugh from ramming the ball down his throat on the ground in the future. Lacking the big uglies upfront so far to keep them clean though. Lots of time til NSD of course.
The most important recruit on that front is probably from Okie State
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The most important recruit on that front is probably from Okie State
Totally agree. It has been more scheme than anything.
When you run the same basic 4-2-5 with no tweaks, or disguises, no matter what the offense does, it makes it really easy to pick it apart with counters, traps, and pulling guards, as well as misdirection.
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Clemson suffering a string of big-time de-commitments from their defense after Venables takes the OU job.
Another big-one bites the dust today for Clemson. This now makes 3 highly rated top 100 recruits in about 4-5 days that Clemson has lost post-Venables to OU. All from the same high school- IMG in Florida.
4* S Keon Sabb (6'2, 200) #94 player overall, #9 safety in the 247Composite.
4* EDGE Jihaad Campbell (6'3, 215) #78 overall, #9 EDGE in the 247Composite.
5* CB Daylen Everette (6'1, 185) #29 overall, #6 CB in the 247Composite.
Bye bye, Clemson? Is this the start of their program beginning to fade to black?
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they started to fade last September
probably one reason Veneables decided to make the leap to HC finally
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Clemson suffering a string of big-time de-commitments from their defense after Venables takes the OU job.
Another big-one bites the dust today for Clemson. This now makes 3 highly rated top 100 recruits in about 4-5 days that Clemson has lost post-Venables to OU. All from the same high school- IMG in Florida.
4* S Keon Sabb (6'2, 200) #94 player overall, #9 safety in the 247Composite.
4* EDGE Jihaad Campbell (6'3, 215) #78 overall, #9 EDGE in the 247Composite.
5* CB Daylen Everette (6'1, 185) #29 overall, #6 CB in the 247Composite.
Bye bye, Clemson? Is this the start of their program beginning to fade to black?
Maybe, it was a great luxury for them to be able to hang onto a great defensive coordinator for so long. So replacing him will be a big job - I know they were competition for Knowles.
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5* CJ Hicks (6'3, 215)
5* Sonny Styles (6'4, 215)
4* Gabe Powers (6'4, 230) - Top 100 recruit
All from Ohio. That's the kind of class Day needs to stop Harbaugh from ramming the ball down his throat on the ground in the future.
Jeebis one season does not a juggernaut make and Haskins is a SR.I'd be concerned with revenge,home field and bombs away
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4* WR Kaleb Webb (6'2, 185) of Georgia commits to Tennessee over Michigan. Webb is rated as the #313 player in the nation and #48 WR in the 247Composite. He's been shooting up the rankings boards and had offers fly in during the past month or so.
Tennessee has beat Michigan head to head for number of kids the past few classes. Still blows my mind every time a kid willingly picks Tennessee over Michigan when they are the final 2 teams.
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Michigan getting a run of CRYSTAL BALLZZZ for 4* WR Darrius Clemons (6'3, 205) of Oregon and 4* DL Derrick Moore (6'4, 250) of Maryland. Both just took their final official visits this last weekend, and will be signing early this Weds.
Moore is rated as the #79 player overall and #12 DL in the nation in the 247Composite and Clemons is rated as the #131 player overall and the #19 WR in the nation. Michigan getting both this late would be very nice, and only reason they are in this position is because of the crazy coaching carousel. Moore was all set to go to Oklahoma and Clemons was heavily leaning to Oregon.
Clemons is from Oregon, but grew up in East Lansing, MI until moving out west at a young age and he was very close with Michigan freshman WR Andrel Anthony growing up, and the two have remained very close. This has been an ace up Michigan's sleeve which may have paid off. Clemons is exceptionally fast for someone his size- ran a laser-timed verified legit 4.37 at one of the Nike Opening camps checking in at just under 6'3 and just north of 200 pounds. Big kid and very fast. Michigan WR class in desperate need because outside of 4* WR Tyler Morris (#115 overall, #14 WR in 247Composite) they have whiffed on literally every other WR target.
We'll find out where these guys and everyone else going in less than 48 hours. Interesting times ahead of us.
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Nebraska added another defensive back on Tuesday, the second in as many days, as Hutchinson Community College defender DeShon Singleton announced for the Huskers over other finalists Kansas and Kansas State.
Singleton, who announced the decision on Twitter, had just spent the last week on official visits to Lincoln and Manhattan, where he took in the sites and heard the pitches from Kansas State and Nebraska.
The 6-foot-3, 200-pound Singleton wrapped up his freshman season at Hutchinson, appearing in nine games and making 21 tackles, 2.5 tackles for loss, intercepting two passes and breaking up two passes. The Louisiana native is a full qualifier and is looking to enroll at his next destination in January. He'll have four years for three seasons of eligibility.
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Michigan commit 4* Edge rusher Kevonte Henry of California announces he's not signing tomorrow. He's fresh off a visit to Washington, where former Michigan recruiting co-ordinator Courtney Morgan has gone to re-join Kalen DeBoer who Morgan worked for in the past.
Michigan might actually lose a kid to Washington because of a recruiting co-ordinator. A kid that plays edge rusher- when Michigan put an edge rusher in the 1st round in the 2021 Draft in Kwity Paye and is about to put two edge rushers in the first round in 2022- oh yeah one of said edge rushers finished 2nd in the Heisman Trophy and has been the unquestioned leader of team that is making a playoff run. And they might lose this edge rusher Henry kid to Washington. Because of a recruiting co-ordinator. I've freaking heard it all now.
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Lots of that happens now.
UW dismissed Jalen Berger for not being a UW guy. Except he was a UW guy in 2020. Then he wasn't.
Transfers to MSU. Guess who is now the recruiting coordinator at MSU?
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Lots of that happens now.
UW dismissed Jalen Berger for not being a UW guy. Except he was a UW guy in 2020. Then he wasn't.
Transfers to MSU. Guess who is now the recruiting coordinator at MSU?
makes no sense lol. recruiting co-ordinators literally just help coaches with their recruiting boards/schedules. they don't coach these kids and never will.
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Michigan commit 4* Edge rusher Kevonte Henry of California announces he's not signing tomorrow. He's fresh off a visit to Washington, where former Michigan recruiting co-ordinator Courtney Morgan has gone to re-join Kalen DeBoer who Morgan worked for in the past.
Michigan might actually lose a kid to Washington because of a recruiting co-ordinator.
Maybe he wants to stay on the coast where he can still get home to play the Cali teams.Or Washington is reloading or he likes his position coach not sure why he'd go there over Michigan for development or a shot at Sunday's
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Maybe he wants to stay on the coast where he can still get home to play the Cali teams.Or Washington is reloading or he likes his position coach not sure why he'd go there over Michigan for development or a shot at Sunday's
it's 100% because of the recruiting co-ordinator.
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MSU CB commit Shannon Blair decommits. I also noticed he called himself a WR/CB in his announcement, which maybe has something to do with it. I have never heard MSU refer to him as a WR once.
Also switches from wanting Caleb Coley or Malcolm Jones to wanting Coley AND Jones
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Kentucky just offered a 2022 OT. Sounds like 5* Goodwin is flipping to either Texas A&M or MSU. He has been #1 on my board BY FAR this whole cycle among MSU targets
Flip side is 4* WR Armani Winfield, who decommitted from Texas, and was widely predicted to be flipping to MSU, may be recommitting to Texas now that Ewers is heading to Austin
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4* DE Caden Curry commits to OSU
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Kentucky just offered a 2022 OT. Sounds like 5* Goodwin is flipping to either Texas A&M or MSU. He has been #1 on my board BY FAR this whole cycle among MSU targets
both the M & Bama side have been radio silent. almost has to be one of those other 3.
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Four star DL Caden Curry commits to the Bucks out of Indiana
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HA you've been scooped
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Four star DL Caden Curry commits to the Bucks out of Indiana
Great get. Curry picked Ohio State over a large group of top programs including Alabama, Indiana, Oregon, Clemson, Florida State, Iowa, Michigan, Michigan State, Notre Dame, Penn State, Texas
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Deone Walker is every bit of 6'5/6'6 and 330+ pounds. Kiyaunta Goodwin is a literal giant.
https://twitter.com/K_Goodwin2022/status/1470890047281025028?s=20
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Deone Walker is every bit of 6'5/6'6 and 330+ pounds. Kiyaunta Goodwin is a literal giant.
https://twitter.com/K_Goodwin2022/status/1470890047281025028?s=20
He posted a picture of himself of Flozell Adams earlier. It (a) made every MSU fan think he was green, and (b) made Flozell look small next to him.
Starting to sound like he sticks with Kentucky. A couple days ago I thought 90% chance we got Winfield, and maybe 50/50 on Goodwin. Looking like neither
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MSU CB commit Shannon Blair decommits. I also noticed he called himself a WR/CB in his announcement, which maybe has something to do with it. I have never heard MSU refer to him as a WR once.
Also switches from wanting Caleb Coley or Malcolm Jones to wanting Coley AND Jones
Rivals saying his "announcement" tomorrow isn't an announcement, he's just going to walk out with one hat on the table. Finally some good news today
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Although the perception is Nebraska made a quick move and landed four-star defensive back Jaeden Gould in a short amount of time, the Oradell (N.J.) Bergen Catholic standout does not feel that way.
So when the 6-foot-2, 190-pound Gould announced his commitment Tuesday evening --he will sign with the Cornhuskers on Wednesday -- he said it came with familiarity and comfort.
Nebraska hosted Gould on an official visit the weekend after he decommitted from USC.
Because of Gould's frame and skill set, he could be used in a variety of ways. He played mostly safety for Bergen Catholic this season, but he has cornerback ability and he can also play nickel. There is the longer term option he could add size and move to a hybrid linebacker/safety role.
"That is one of the things they preached to me, versatility to be able to play all the positions in the secondary, especially with their defense," he said. "They like to use that a lot. I feel like it is something that really fits me as a player and I could my skill set to the best of my ability."
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MSU CB commit Shannon Blair decommits. I also noticed he called himself a WR/CB in his announcement, which maybe has something to do with it. I have never heard MSU refer to him as a WR once.
Also switches from wanting Caleb Coley or Malcolm Jones to wanting Coley AND Jones
Yuck, well this got ugly.
His HS coach took to Twitter to say he will personally make sure Tucker never gets another kid from Tennessee.
Then some reports came out that he submitted fake transcripts, and was never academically eligible to sign.
I feel bad for the kid, he took the high road, and now it's a thing. Either way some grown men screwed him, by either pulling his scholarship, or fudging his grades.
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Yuck, well this got ugly.
His HS coach took to Twitter to say he will personally make sure Tucker never gets another kid from Tennessee.
Then some reports came out that he submitted fake transcripts, and was never academically eligible to sign.
I feel bad for the kid, he took the high road, and now it's a thing. Either way some grown men screwed him, by either pulling his scholarship, or fudging his grades.
and twitter just making a bad situation worse.
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Duke, Purdue, Virginia and Wake Forest are his other P5 offers.
A lot of posts have been pulled down. This is a bad situation suddenly
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Rivals saying his "announcement" tomorrow isn't an announcement, he's just going to walk out with one hat on the table. Finally some good news today
And Jones jumped and committed tonight
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He posted a picture of himself of Flozell Adams earlier. It (a) made every MSU fan think he was green, and (b) made Flozell look small next to him.
Starting to sound like he sticks with Kentucky. A couple days ago I thought 90% chance we got Winfield, and maybe 50/50 on Goodwin. Looking like neither
Down to 2
https://twitter.com/K_Goodwin2022/status/1470967165054590981?t=FlJNDoGoS5SFlvW7BPcNyA&s=19
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NSD1. Wonder if there will be any drama today...
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Down to 2
https://twitter.com/K_Goodwin2022/status/1470967165054590981?t=FlJNDoGoS5SFlvW7BPcNyA&s=19
Announced that he's not announcing today, he hasn't made up his mind yet.
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MSU WR commit Jaron Glover from Florida just got a bump to a near 4*. The good news is that he took a visit to FSU for the loss to Jacksonville State.
He's undersized, but is a favorite to win the state title in the 200 and 400 in states come fall. Give me the fastest kid in Florida, and let the coaches figure it out.
Happy to get this LOI in
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So did MSU miss on that kid going to Ky?
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His HS coach took to Twitter to say he will personally make sure Tucker never gets another kid from Tennessee.
Did the HC say that?If so are they a pipeline type school
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So did MSU miss on that kid going to Ky?
Not sure yet, he delayed his announcement to take more time
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Did the HC say that?If so are they a pipeline type school
It sounds like it was actually the guy he trained with? Not his high school coach
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Makes much more sense as an HC would be hamstringing his kids and his relationship with them.And if he was good enough may be limiting his own options at the next level
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Austin Westlake DL Ethan Burke decided to stay home and flip from Michigan to Texas today. Rumors started on this one a couple of days ago.
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Austin Westlake DL Ethan Burke decided to stay home and flip from Michigan to Texas today. Rumors started on this one a couple of days ago.
Texas also flipped 4star CB Terrance Brooks.
you have to hand it to them, their NIL strategy is unique and ingenious.
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And Jones jumped and committed tonight
Coley committed and signed today too. Completing the DB flip targets from VT and Vandy
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Texas also flipped 4star CB Terrance Brooks.
you have to hand it to them, their NIL strategy is unique and ingenious.
It's what I predicted every school with some reasonable amounts of booster money would end up doing. I'm honestly surprised it took this long. For Texas, or anyone else. I suppose the attorneys really needed to sift through the rules closely to ensure compliance.
It's nice to have a legal means to offset the bag games being run by the less-than-savory players in the business. I'm not accusing tOSU of that, of course, the Buckeyes really have no need to cheat. But there are some dirty programs down south and out west that we all know about, and NIL is finally evening up the playing field.
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how long before young Arch Manning ends up in a Caesars Entertainment commercial??
https://youtu.be/1c6eri_BeNk
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It's what I predicted every school with some reasonable amounts of booster money would end up doing. I'm honestly surprised it took this long. For Texas, or anyone else. I suppose the attorneys really needed to sift through the rules closely to ensure compliance.
It's nice to have a legal means to offset the bag games being run by the less-than-savory players in the business. I'm not accusing tOSU of that, of course, the Buckeyes really have no need to cheat. But there are some dirty programs down south and out west that we all know about, and NIL is finally evening up the playing field.
Spot on.
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Right now, the top 7 classes in the conference by the 247 composite are the 7 East teams
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Texas also flipped 4star CB Terrance Brooks.
you have to hand it to them, their NIL strategy is unique and ingenious.
It's what I predicted every school with some reasonable amounts of booster money would end up doing. I'm honestly surprised it took this long. For Texas, or anyone else. I suppose the attorneys really needed to sift through the rules closely to ensure compliance.
From what I've read this was part of Ewers plan get early playing time then return back to one of the Texas schools.But CJ Stroud happened
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5* CB Travis Hunter (6-1, 180) of Georgia, the #1 overall player in the nation in the 247Composite, de-commits from FSU and signs with Deion Sanders and Jackson State. Crazy. Hunter idolizes Deion Sanders and wants to be just like him apparently.
FSU should've hired Deion. We're seeing something that has literally never happened in college football recruiting. The #1 player in the nation ditching a P5 helmet for a DIII HBC. Can only imagine the type of classes Deion would be pulling at a place like FSU.
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Michigan lands 4* DB Keon Sabb, flips 3* WR Amorion Walker from Notre Dame, and flips 3* ATH Alex Orji from Virginia Tech.
In a bit of a surprise, Michigan loses out on 4* DT Deone Walker to Kentucky. Guess he wants to be just like the other 4* DT's from Detroit Marquan McCall and Justin Rogers who went to Kentucky to do absolutely nothing lol.
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5* CB Travis Hunter (6-1, 180) of Georgia, the #1 overall player in the nation in the 247Composite, de-commits from FSU and signs with Deion Sanders and Jackson State. Crazy. Hunter idolizes Deion Sanders and wants to be just like him apparently.
Well maybe less chance of getting hurt not clashing with the big boys
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Right now, the top 7 classes in the conference by the 247 composite are the 7 East teams
UW has 13 commits. Average rating 87.25 MSU's is 87.27.
Iowa has 12 commits, with an 88.36 average. That is good for 4th, behind the usual suspects.
M- 89.20
PSU - 90.87
OSU - 94.04 (ridiculous)
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Well maybe less chance of getting hurt not clashing with the big boys
he's a CB. those guys don't exactly have very physical jobs like say LB/OL/RB or even safety.
Hunter is the #1 player in the country and a lot of people who follow Georgia HS football say he's easily the best DB prospect to come out of Georgia since Champ Bailey. That is apparently who he is comped to most.
Think he just really wanted to be coached by his idol, Deion Sanders. Deion doing his alma mater dirty. But they probably should've hired him. When Norvell gets fired in a year or two, they would be stupid not to call Deion immediately to replace him.
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Right now, the top 7 classes in the conference by the 247 composite are the 7 East teams
recruiting rankings are fun to look at...but Wisconsin/Iowa will continue beat the crap out of every team in the East recruiting better than them on paper except for OSU/M/PSU/MSU. Indiana, Maryland, and Buttgers can be ranked higher than them on paper all they want. Those teams will still suck, and Wisconsin/Iowa will still destroy them.
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247Composite database goes back to 2000. The #1 player in the nation have signed with...
2000 - DJ Williams, LB - Miami-FL
2001 - Kevin Jones, RB - Virginia Tech
2002 - Vince Young, QB - Texas
2003 - Ernie Sims, LB - Florida State
2004 - Adrian Peterson, RB - Oklahoma
2005 - Eugene Monroe, OT - Virginia
2006 - Percy Harvin, WR - Florida
2007 - Joe McKnight, RB - USC
2008 - Da'Quan Bowers, DE - Clemson
2009 - Matt Barkley, QB - USC
2010 - Ronald Powell, DE - Florida
2011 - JaDeveon Clowney, DE - South Carolina
2012 - Dorial Green-Beckham, WR - Missouri
2013 - Robert Nkmediche, DE - Ole Miss
2014 - Leonard Fournette, RB - LSU
2015 - Trenton Thompson, DT - Georgia
2016 - Rashan Gary, DE - Michigan
2017 - Jaelan Phillips, DE - UCLA
2018 - Trevor Lawerence, QB - Clemson
2019 - Nolan Smith, LB - Georgia
2020 - Bryan Breese, DE - Clemson
2021 - Quinn Ewers, QB - Ohio State
2022 - Travis Hunter, CB - Jackson State
LOL.
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From what I've read this was part of Ewers plan get early playing time then return back to one of the Texas schools.But CJ Stroud happened
Sure, could be.
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recruiting rankings are fun to look at...but Wisconsin/Iowa will continue beat the crap out of every team in the East recruiting better than them on paper except for OSU/M/PSU/MSU. Indiana, Maryland, and Buttgers can be ranked higher than them on paper all they want. Those teams will still suck, and Wisconsin/Iowa will still destroy them.
So the top 2 teams in the West will continue to beat the bottom 3 from the East.
That's the bar?
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The bar is to beat Ohio State, and not too many teams are any good at that.
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So the top 2 teams in the West will continue to beat the bottom 3 from the East.
That's the bar?
yeah, just saying. you brought up the recruiting rankings, not me. i think the rankings matter- but only to a degree. still need to develop, motivate, and scheme up. the rankings are fun to look at- but outside of a few position like RB, CB, WR, Pass Rushers- i honestly think they are almost worthless. QB, IOL, OT, DT, LB, and even S seem to be 50/50 crapshoots imo. QB is hardest position there is to play and no one knows how a QB will perform until he's actually in there taking live bullets. DT/IOL/OT are the grown ass man positions- and that takes time to develop 18 year old kids into men. LB/S seem to be very instinctual/high IQ positions more-so than raw athletic ability. Typically the guys that can diagnose offenses, read keys instantly, and have great instincts are the best. I've seen way too many freaky highly rated athletic guys at LB/S for Michigan just wind up not being- well not all that special. And a lot of guys that were lowly ranked and just OK athletically be really, really good like David Harris & Jake Ryan.
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I find one-year recruiting rankings to be less useful... I like the composite team talent rankings:
https://247sports.com/Season/2021-Football/CollegeTeamTalentComposite/?Conference=Big-Ten
Issue with single-year rankings is that it is particularly noisy with regards to class size, and even if you look at class average rather than class size, it can be be misleading as a larger class might give you a few more opportunities to take a flyer on a "maybe" prospect ranked lower knowing that worst case they're just a depth piece anyway.
Team composite talent rankings are a lot more consistent year-to-year, and it takes a couple years of good recruiting (or bad recruiting) to move the needle there in an appreciable way.
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I find one-year recruiting rankings to be less useful... I like the composite team talent rankings:
https://247sports.com/Season/2021-Football/CollegeTeamTalentComposite/?Conference=Big-Ten
Issue with single-year rankings is that it is particularly noisy with regards to class size, and even if you look at class average rather than class size, it can be be misleading as a larger class might give you a few more opportunities to take a flyer on a "maybe" prospect ranked lower knowing that worst case they're just a depth piece anyway.
Team composite talent rankings are a lot more consistent year-to-year, and it takes a couple years of good recruiting (or bad recruiting) to move the needle there in an appreciable way.
does this take into account portal guys leaving/coming?
Cause MSU is 7th, and I feel like half their damn roster is portal guys and their best player and the best RB in the nation was a portal guy. A guy they probably go 6-6 or 7-5 this year without.
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does this take into account portal guys leaving/coming?
Cause MSU is 7th, and I feel like half their damn roster is portal guys and their best player and the best RB in the nation was a portal guy. A guy they probably go 6-6 or 7-5 this year without.
Yeah, looking at it, he was listed on the 2021 roster. That said, he is listed as a 3* with a 0.8122 rating. So his recruiting ranking != his talent level IMHO.
I don't know if they weight it based on class, either. You would think that Jr/Sr players should be weighted a little higher than Fr/So players, because of the physical nature of the game and it being harder to produce before you've had time in the S&C program (less true for perimeter skill players than OL/DL/LB of course).
But either way it's more useful to me than a single year recruiting ranking.
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Cause MSU is 7th, and I feel like half their damn roster is portal guys and their best player and the best RB in the nation was a portal guy. A guy they probably go 6-6 or 7-5 this year without.
Like M would have done with out Cade ;D
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The way OSU pulls in top 5 classes while intentionally limiting its recruiting pool, as I’ve been told is the case, always impresses.
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https://twitter.com/rodger/status/1471171568285933571?t=XehOEono0Pm89XKD07JsUA&s=19
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https://twitter.com/rodger/status/1471171568285933571?t=XehOEono0Pm89XKD07JsUA&s=19
they'll eventually tweak these NIL rules.
I think it would make sense if they had some sort of rule where players can't get NIL money until their 2nd year of college. This way you can maybe eliminate pay-for-play HS recruiting schemes.
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Austin Westlake DL Ethan Burke decided to stay home and flip from Michigan to Texas today. Rumors started on this one a couple of days ago.
don't want to be that guy- but never understood why they even took him. was never a big fan- and I'm not some star gazer. Probably hurts losing him now though, as it sounds like Kevonte Henry is wavering and might follow Michigan's former freaking recruiting co-ordinator to Washington.
And I'm totally not some star gazer- Burke just never flashed to me. Henry did. And Henry was a 3* for most of the cycle and just recently got bumped to 4*. I was most excited for Henry of any kid in Michigan's entire class save for 5* CB Will Johnson. Henry is just a 6'4, 225 pound freak-show with 4.5 speed who plays DE and RB for his HS team. Even though he plays in the LA area- apparently he doesn't play the best competition and he's supposedly very new to football and raw- but he literally just jumps off the screen. Going to suck to lose him to Washington.
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https://twitter.com/rodger/status/1471171568285933571?t=XehOEono0Pm89XKD07JsUA&s=19
It's silly to use ONE outlier, going to a program that most people have only heard of because of Prime Time, of a player at his exact position that idolizes the coach, as an argument that NIL won't benefit power programs more than others.
There are arguments against that that will prove true or false over time, but this ain't one of them.
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they'll eventually tweak these NIL rules.
I think it would make sense if they had some sort of rule where players can't get NIL money until their 2nd year of college. This way you can maybe eliminate pay-for-play HS recruiting schemes.
I can see how that's good for college football and the fairness of competition, but the states have no interest in limiting the abilities of free citizens to capitalize on NIL. They're pushing to make it even more wide open.
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3* DE Zion Young picks MSU over WVU and Missouri
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so...Deion Sanders might not be done. Apparently 5* S Kamari Wilson was all bet set to go to Georgia, and sounds like he's now going to be joining 5* CB Travis Hunter at Jackson State. Wow.
FSU should hire Deion today. Lol. The classes that guy would recruit as a head coach would be insane.
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don't want to be that guy- but never understood why they even took him. was never a big fan- and I'm not some star gazer. Probably hurts losing him now though, as it sounds like Kevonte Henry is wavering and might follow Michigan's former freaking recruiting co-ordinator to Washington.
And I'm totally not some star gazer- Burke just never flashed to me. Henry did. And Henry was a 3* for most of the cycle and just recently got bumped to 4*. I was most excited for Henry of any kid in Michigan's entire class save for 5* CB Will Johnson. Henry is just a 6'4, 225 pound freak-show with 4.5 speed who plays DE and RB for his HS team. Even though he plays in the LA area- apparently he doesn't play the best competition and he's supposedly very new to football and raw- but he literally just jumps off the screen. Going to suck to lose him to Washington.
Burke is a project for sure. At his height he needs to put on a lot of muscle to be effective. It's a good take for Texas but probably not a huge loss for Michigan-- our two programs are quite obviously in very different places right now.
I can say that I've seen him play this year in several games on TV and one in-person, and he's a beast on the field at the Texas 6A level. I noticed him months ago. He'll be playing in the Texas 6A State Championship game Saturday at 7 PM Central, for anyone that wants to check him out.
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Like M would have done with out Cade ;D
puhhh-leeeeease.
Cade is a decent player, good at playing game manager. But he's nowhere near elite. Walker was probably THE most elite RB in the nation this year. Doesn't get any better at the position than him. Lotta dudes better at the QB position than Cade.
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Dabo Swiney and Lane Kiffin both publicly complaining and crying about NIL and Transfer Portal. Wasn't sure of either. But now that both these slimeballs hate it makes me sure NIL/Portal are good things.
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Dabo Swiney and Lane Kiffin both publicly complaining and crying about NIL and Transfer Portal. Wasn't sure of either. But now that both these slimeballs hate it makes me sure NIL/Portal are good things.
Heh. LSU officials were complaining about it as well. As I predicted long ago, all of the guys who've had great success with their bagmen paying players under the table before, but don't have the money to legitimately keep up with NIL programs, are going to scream and holler.
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It's silly to use ONE outlier, going to a program that most people have only heard of because of Prime Time, of a player at his exact position that idolizes the coach, as an argument that NIL won't benefit power programs more than others.
There are arguments against that that will prove true or false over time, but this ain't one of them.
I mean...that's a pretty danged big outlier
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Heh. LSU officials were complaining about it as well. As I predicted long ago, all of the guys who've had great success with their bagmen paying players under the table before, but don't have the money to legitimately keep up with NIL programs, are going to scream and holler.
Exactly right.
Kelly may have picked the wrong time to jump to LSU. ND theoretically should have considerably better NIL opportunities than LSU.
The schools that have huge national fanbases, large alumni bases, and big-money boosters will be able to attract the best NIL deals. LSU, Clemson, Ole Miss - have none of the above.
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I mean...that's a pretty danged big outlier
Sure, of course it is. But it's an outlier. He's not going to play for Jackson State. He's going to play for Deion Sanders.
This is not exactly a playbook that the rest of Div-III can emulate, because there's only one Prime Time, and only a handful of other guys who would have even remotely the same impact. Not every Div-III school has a coach on Aflac commercials alongside Saban every 5 minutes.
It also remains to be seen what the NIL implications will be for someone who goes to Jackson State. If he can't get deals commensurate with what players in similar situations with helmet schools are getting, it'll chill this activity pretty quickly. Now, if he CAN get that kind of NIL money, then it might actually mean something.
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Michigan has two targets left. 4* WR Darrius Clemons and 4* DE Derrick Moore. They are favored to land both at the moment, and both will be signing by 5pm.
They have probably a less than 1% chance at 5* OT Kiyaunta Goodwin. Steve Witflong the lead recruiting guru over at 247Sports says he's down to MSU and Kentucky with MSU having the lead in his opinion- but still undecided with Michigan & A&M in the background possibly sneaking in the backdoor. Makes no sense at all...but he's like the bible when it comes to recruiting so if he says it- take it to the bank.
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Sure, of course it is. But it's an outlier. He's not going to play for Jackson State. He's going to play for Deion Sanders.
the Deion Sanders thing cannot be overstated. The kid worships/idolizes him. He literally committed to Florida State just so he could be the next Deion Sanders. They didn't even have to recruit him, he wanted to play there just because Deion Sanders played there.
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4* WR Darrius Clemons signs with Michigan. 6'3, 200+ and 4.37? Yes please. Kid is a freak show.
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the Deion Sanders thing cannot be overstated. The kid worships/idolizes him. He literally committed to Florida State just so he could be the next Deion Sanders. They didn't even have to recruit him, he wanted to play there just because Deion Sanders played there.
I actually think it is overstated. If the kid wanted to play for Deion that badly, he would have committed there originally. It was the Barstool NIL deal that got him to Jackson State.
To support Bwar's point, until Barstool / and like-companies routinely shell out big $$$ to sway top athletes to tiny schools, this is a one-off outlier.
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Lotta dudes better at the QB position than Cade.
12-1 sheez you Michigan Fans
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The bar is to beat Ohio State, and not too many teams are any good at that.
No-No-No,it's Jeem now stay focused,you can do,keep your eye on the prize
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4* DE Derrick Moore signs with Michigan.
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Texas A&M has signed 9 top 100 kids. They have 3 more top 100 kids committed to them that have yet to sign.
That's 12 top 100 kids. With four of them 5*'s. In a total class of 20. They are still favored or in the top 3 for 5 other 5* kids and are in on a bunch more top 100 kids.
This is nuts to me. Texas A&M has zero history of ever winning anything. Texas is the dominant blue-blood program in the state. A&M is kinda middle of nowhere far from all the major cities in Texas. Texas is smack dab in Austin. Jimbo Fisher's last year FSU was a 5-7 disaster, and he's been perpetually 8-4 at A&M ever since he's been there. He's been at A&M for 4 years. It's not exactly like he's got a "new vision" or hype or that new coach bump going that new hot name coaches get in their first year or two on the trail. After that it's put up or shut up time if coaches want to keep recruiting at an elite level. He's largely shut up, as he hasn't put up jack squat.
If the dominoes fall for them they have a legit shot at finishing #1 and having one of the highest rated classes ever. Makes absolutely no sense to me, but whatever.
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Texas A&M has signed 9 top 100 kids. They have 3 more top 100 kids committed to them that have yet to sign.
That's 12 top 100 kids. With four of them 5*'s. In a total class of 20. They are still favored or in the top 3 for 5 other 5* kids and are in on a bunch more top 100 kids.
This is nuts to me. Texas A&M has zero history of ever winning anything. Texas is the dominant blue-blood program in the state. A&M is kinda middle of nowhere far from all the major cities in Texas. Texas is smack dab in Austin. Jimbo Fisher's last year FSU was a 5-7 disaster, and he's been perpetually 8-4 at A&M ever since he's been there. He's been at A&M for 4 years. It's not exactly like he's got a "new vision" or hype or that new coach bump going that new hot name coaches get in their first year or two on the trail. After that it's put up or shut up time if coaches want to keep recruiting at an elite level. He's largely shut up, as he hasn't put up jack squat.
If the dominoes fall for them they have a legit shot at finishing #1 and having one of the highest rated classes ever. Makes absolutely no sense to me, but whatever.
And they do not have a strong NIL program for funneling money to players legally, but they are in the SEC West and have learned from the best, which all adds up to...
(I'll put it this way, Ole Miss was having similar recruiting success for "no reason" a few years back)
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And they do not have a strong NIL program for funneling money to players legally, but they are in the SEC West and have learned from the best, which all adds up to...
(I'll put it this way, Ole Miss was having similar recruiting success for "no reason" a few years back)
They are 100% paying guys under the table. I don't doubt that for a second.
Jimbo is in major put up or shut up mode in 2022. Sooner or later have to show results to sustain recruiting like Bama, Georgia, OSU. Those guys win a lot. A&M does not.
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They are 100% paying guys under the table. I don't doubt that for a second.
Jimbo is in major put up or shut up mode in 2022. Sooner or later have to show results to sustain recruiting like Bama, Georgia, OSU. Those guys win a lot. A&M does not.
It's even worse for them, this is their last gasp at squeaking out good seasons before Texas and OU join the SEC and make life far more difficult for them. Both schools absolutely own the ags, and once all of the recruiting imbalances are evened out, the ags will be in a world of hurt. Couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch. :)
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It's even worse for them, this is their last gasp at squeaking out good seasons before Texas and OU join the SEC and make life far more difficult for them. Both schools absolutely own the ags, and once all of the recruiting imbalances are evened out, the ags will be in a world of hurt. Couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch. :)
Texas still needs to find a coach. I'm not sold on Sark. There's a certain guy in the NFL who might get fired by the Jags. If he does...Texas should say sayonara to Sark and go all in on him. Urban winning at least 1 title at a place like Texas.
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Urban might be a little toxic right now.
Texas should go all-in on Ryan Day.
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Sark was a terrible hire. But even Tom Herman was able to win 10 games at Texas.
As college football national championship winning and NFL superbowl winning and hall of fame coach Barry $witzer famously said-- it's the Jimmys and the Joes, not the Xs and the Os.
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They are 100% paying guys under the table. I don't doubt that for a second.
Jimbo is in major put up or shut up mode in 2022. Sooner or later have to show results to sustain recruiting like Bama, Georgia, OSU. Those guys win a lot. A&M does not.
I remember that WR I think was headed M's way and like 2 other guys they had like 3 of the top 10-15 in the all of CFB.And you were all :character0029: "those cheating F****" well you weren't wrong
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Urban might be a little toxic right now.
Texas should go all-in on Ryan Day.
Nope Leonard,Rudolph or PC are a much more stable and a natural fit .The Urban stench still wafts around RD,horrible pick Chicago bound anyway
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Sark was a terrible hire. But even Tom Herman was able to win 10 games at Texas.
As college football national championship winning and NFL superbowl winning and hall of fame coach Barry $witzer famously said-- it's the Jimmys and the Joes, not the Xs and the Os.
Jimmy Johnson was talking about how it's more about motivating all the players and coaches and getting the best out of every single one of them than it is X's and O's. It was a fascinating look inside the mind of a pair of HOF coaches when Jimmy and Bill Belichik started talking on Jimmy's boat during a segment on the show A Football Life. X's and O's are still crazy important, however lol.
I think where the Jimmy's and Joe's really matter are the trench ponies. You just can't win without them. I go back to the Chiefs in the Super Bowl. Probably the best skill collection of talent in the NFL with Mahomes, Hill, and Kelce, and it didn't matter. Their OL literally could not block the Tampa front 7. We love the QB's and WR's and the big plays, but at the end of the day- it's still a blocking and tackling game.
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5* OT Kiyaunta Goodwin sticks with his pledge and signs with Kentucky. MSU finishes runner-up. Was not looking forward to having to play him every year, dude is a grown ass man and literal giant- but hate that he went to Kentucky. Still got beef with them for snatching Deone Walker from Michigan. I'd really like to see Kentucky go back to being well, Kentucky.
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Jimmy Johnson was talking about how it's more about motivating all the players and coaches and getting the best out of every single one of them than it is X's and O's. It was a fascinating look inside the mind of a pair of HOF coaches when Jimmy and Bill Belichik started talking on Jimmy's boat during a segment on the show A Football Life. X's and O's are still crazy important, however lol.
I think where the Jimmy's and Joe's really matter are the trench ponies. You just can't win without them. I go back to the Chiefs in the Super Bowl. Probably the best skill collection of talent in the NFL with Mahomes, Hill, and Kelce, and it didn't matter. Their OL literally could not block the Tampa front 7. We love the QB's and WR's and the big plays, but at the end of the day- it's still a blocking and tackling game.
100%
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so apparently someone in the state legislature in Tallahassee is pissed off Florida State lost the #1 recruit in the nation to Jackson State.
https://twitter.com/DarrenHeitner/status/1471236697379721219?s=20
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Wow, that was fast!
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Wow, that was fast!
Florida State lost the #1 recruit in the nation to a D3 historically black college. they can change all the rules they want- they'll never be able to live that down. that program is on the brink of death. it was a sinking ship and has been since the day Jimbo said F this I'm out.
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So....sounds like 3* LB Aaron Alexander of Belleville HS in Michigan did not sign with Michigan, and will not be in Michigan's class.
Apparently Belleville head coach Jermaine Crowell went on a huge rant the other day on twitter trashing schools who don't make real offers and how that school is dead and none of his players will ever go there. He didn't mention any schools or coaches by name- but looks like we have our answer now....
Jim Harbaugh must really hate Jermaine Crowell and must never want to land a Belleville kid ever again. JFC. This is a big deal because Belleville has highly ranked kids almost every single year. Lost a 5* DT from there to Bama because of major beef between Harbaugh and Crowell. They have a freshman QB that will be a 5* in 2025.
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welp. Michigan's 2022 class is a close except for a couple guys. they are waiting on 4* commit Edge Kevonte Henry of California to sign or not sign in Feb and on 5* OT Josh Conerly Jr. of Washington who is a heavy Michigan lean at the moment. That's about it. There might be a surprise down the line- but doubtful. Basically down to two guys on their board right now.
Onto 2023.
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What I find interesting is the scuttlebutt that there may be a conflict of interest or ethics issue with the Barstool NIL deal with that kid considering that Deion is apparently still financially intertwined somehow with Barstool, actually still operating a show for them.
Also that apparently the NIL rules in MS bar any affiliation with gambling or other interests, and Barstool may be related enough to those areas to cause an issue.
This may be a test case for more than a few issues related to NIL.
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What I find interesting is the scuttlebutt that there may be a conflict of interest or ethics issue with the Barstool NIL deal with that kid considering that Deion is apparently still financially intertwined somehow with Barstool, actually still operating a show for them.
Also that apparently the NIL rules in MS bar any affiliation with gambling or other interests, and Barstool may be related enough to those areas to cause an issue.
This may be a test case for more than a few issues related to NIL.
is the Barstool NIL thing even real? I haven't seen anything official about it at all. One mention from a random twitter account called bean_invest that has a thousand followers is the one who was claiming this- and it took off. That twitter account has nothing to do with sports- apparently it is some "tech investor". If you look at their twitter page looks like a bullshit account.
Reporter over at front office sports is saying it's not true. Another reporter who is a beat writer for the Clarion Ledger and covers Jackson State also saying it's not true.
https://twitter.com/achristovichh/status/1471226387226927105?s=20
https://twitter.com/_KhariThompson/status/1471230176004558858?s=20
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TBH, I only heard about the Barstool thing when @iahawk15 (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=874) mentioned it. I did some googling and it looked like everyone was picking it up, so I assumed it was legit.
If that's not the case, mea culpa.
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honestly...that rumor makes zero sense. wtf would Barstool pay this kid $1.5 million for? Jackson State has no fans for this kid to pitch whatever Barstool is trying to hawk. They'd just be wasting their money.
Portnoy doesn't give a crap about Jackson State football. He's not going to waste his money to try and get players to his favorite team. He's a diehard Michigan fan and alum. If he was going to try and "buy" this kid- he'd buy him to go to Michigan.
Might just be a ton of bullshit and much ado about nothing.
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honestly...that rumor makes zero sense. wtf would Barstool pay this kid $1.5 million for? Jackson State has no fans for this kid to pitch whatever Barstool is trying to hawk. They'd just be wasting their money.
Portnoy doesn't give a crap about Jackson State football. He's not going to waste his money to try and get players to his favorite team. He's a diehard Michigan fan and alum. If he was going to try and "buy" this kid- he'd buy him to go to Michigan.
Might just be a ton of bullshit and much ado about nothing.
True, but if Barstool was invested in Deion, there may be advantage to leveraging the Deion brand from the publicity of this flip.
Still a reach for a >$1M investment, but you never know. Barstool might have thought they could get something out of it...
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True, but if Barstool was invested in Deion, there may be advantage to leveraging the Deion brand from the publicity of this flip.
Still a reach for a >$1M investment, but you never know. Barstool might have thought they could get something out of it...
maybe....man but I just don't see it. No one gives a crap about college football recruiting. Not even most sports fans. Just us college football nutjobs. Not sure there is much to gain there. NIL deals are most effective with best ROI's for brands/companies when said brand/companies use popular college athletes to pitch product to said college athletes teams large fan bases. Or for boosters who have more money than brains that want to entice players to come to their school. Neither case seems to apply here.
Deion Sanders is the NFL GOAT CB. AND he played MLB baseball. He is easily one of the most iconic athletes ever in US history. He's a pretty well known public figure. I think. FOR sure in the sports world, and maybe even a little bit outside of the sports world. Not sure there's much publicity to gain. Probably a one day OMG that really happened type shocking thing- to college football nutjobs and maybe some casual sports fans- then that's it. Bye bye...no one give a flying F##k the day after.
I just don't see it. This kid has been talking about Deion Sanders for years and is so obsessed with Deion Sanders and idolized Deion Sanders so much he committed to FSU when they were a dumpster fire and stayed committed and tried to get other top kids to come with him.
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3* RB commit CJ Stokes from South Carolina. This the type of kid that helps build a lasting culture. Give me this type of attitude over entitled drama queen attention seekers every single f'ing day of the week.
https://twitter.com/joegorchowWIS/status/1471201953149562884?s=20
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I'm sure the kid likes Deion Sanders, but he was like 2 when Deion retired. And I don't give much to this Barstool thing - seems made up. BUT, my main takeaway is that a kid can follow his dream and play for Deion Sanders or Mr. Magoo or whomever and still make a tidy profit instead of focusing solely on NFL feeder schools.
It will be interesting to see how this shakes out. My biggest concern/complaint continues to be this transfer rule. It almost makes no sense for a kid to not enter the transfer portal at some point, simply to be recruited again and get perhaps another signing bonus of some sort. Can't say I love that.
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Yeah I'm always pro players rights, but at some point you also have to address the business model to ensure you are retaining fans. Maybe in Alabama or Nebraska or Iowa, people will always turn out, but I think in others, people have no interest in NFL-lite.
I think you keep the portal and the NIL stuff, but bring back the one year sit out rule with zero waivers. Make your money, go where you want, but you won't be playing immediately
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maybe....man but I just don't see it. No one gives a crap about college football recruiting. Not even most sports fans. Just us college football nutjobs. Not sure there is much to gain there. NIL deals are most effective with best ROI's for brands/companies when said brand/companies use popular college athletes to pitch product to said college athletes teams large fan bases. Or for boosters who have more money than brains that want to entice players to come to their school. Neither case seems to apply here.
Deion Sanders is the NFL GOAT CB. AND he played MLB baseball. He is easily one of the most iconic athletes ever in US history. He's a pretty well known public figure. I think. FOR sure in the sports world, and maybe even a little bit outside of the sports world. Not sure there's much publicity to gain. Probably a one day OMG that really happened type shocking thing- to college football nutjobs and maybe some casual sports fans- then that's it. Bye bye...no one give a flying F##k the day after.
I just don't see it. This kid has been talking about Deion Sanders for years and is so obsessed with Deion Sanders and idolized Deion Sanders so much he committed to FSU when they were a dumpster fire and stayed committed and tried to get other top kids to come with him.
Fair enough. All I'm saying is that it seemed plausible enough in this crazy new environment. People are paying $200K for NFTs of bored cartoon apes. I can't predict who is going to throw $1.5M at who these days.
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Fair enough. All I'm saying is that it seemed plausible enough in this crazy new environment. People are paying $200K for NFTs of bored cartoon apes. I can't predict who is going to throw $1.5M at who these days.
don't even get me started on that. makes no sense. saw some artist on Rogan podcast from Wisconsin who goes by the name Beeple who sold one of his NFTs for $69 million. can't even wrap my brain around that crap.
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I'm sure the kid likes Deion Sanders, but he was like 2 when Deion retired.
yeah, and jesus died like 2,000+ years ago and people still worship his ass.
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Yeah I'm always pro players rights, but at some point you also have to address the business model to ensure you are retaining fans. Maybe in Alabama or Nebraska or Iowa, people will always turn out, but I think in others, people have no interest in NFL-lite.
I think you keep the portal and the NIL stuff, but bring back the one year sit out rule with zero waivers. Make your money, go where you want, but you won't be playing immediately
They don't, but many paradoxically vehemently dislike some of the things that prevent it from being that.
As the sport pars down, it gets closer to that in a lot of ways, and most have little ability to adjust expectations to that reality.
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UW got a big commit last night.
Bumps them ahead of MSU in average player ranking.
Hoping for one more soon, which would bump UW ahead of Iowa.
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thanks to the coaching carousel, Michigan closed with....
4* DE Derrick Moore (6'4, 250) - #79 player overall - was committed to Oklahoma
4* S Keon Sabb (6'2, 200) - #94 player overall - was committed to Clemson
4* WR Darrius Clemons (6'3, 205) - #131 player overall - was all but set to go to his hometown team Oregon
3* WR Amorion Walker (6'4, 175) - was committed to Notre Dame
they got real lucky with all those coaching changes, but they took full advantage of their opportunity to get in there and flip 'em. Only guy they really "lost" on NSD was 4* DL Deone Walker from Detroit who inexplicably signed with freaking Kentucky.
Hang onto 4* DE Kevonte Henry and close the deal on 5* OT Josh Conerly Jr and the class is a smashing success and probably ranked top 6-8.
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speaking of NIL....
Tom Brady's BRADY clothing brand, which is launching in Jan 2022 and will be exclusively sold online and at Nordstrom stores around the US/Canada- signs NIL deals with 10 college athletes. One of the ten is Michigan QB Cade McNamara. Guess I can't say jack about Cade now if he's got the seal of approval from the GOAT.
https://twitter.com/DarrenHeitner/status/1471468520324182028?s=20
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The Badgers lost IOL Billy Schrauth to ND. He was ready to stay home and play for UW, and then Brian Kelly left, and he did not like Kelly at all. So, he chose ND. Rees staying tipped it in.
His father pushed really hard for ND. Mom wanted UW.
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recruit rankings are a guide, not the gospel.
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recruit rankings are a guide, not the gospel.
It is a thing though.
Wisconsin will likely never win an MNC.
They cannot get elite CB's or WR's to come to Madison, except when there is a second Tuesday of next week or a blue boon.
They get serviceable kids there, but that is not going to beat Bama, OSU, etc.
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It is a thing though.
Wisconsin will likely never win an MNC.
They cannot get elite CB's or WR's to come to Madison, except when there is a second Tuesday of next week or a blue boon.
They get serviceable kids there, but that is not going to beat Bama, OSU, etc.
Don't forget QB's. Bama/OSU have also been on an insane run of QB's these past 5 years.
#1 thing you need however is and always will be the trench ponies. Start there. The 5* CB's and WR's don't mean jack if you are tissue paper soft up front. Looking at you Texas. Looking at you USC.
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Well Texas A&M had a really good haul this year. Some are saying #1 class. I prefer to wait and see how these guys pan out, but I’d rather be high on this list than not. I think a couple of guys also want to wait until the traditional signing day in February, but either way it has been a good year.
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Don't forget QB's. Bama/OSU have also been on an insane run of QB's these past 5 years.
#1 thing you need however is and always will be the trench ponies. Start there. The 5* CB's and WR's don't mean jack if you are tissue paper soft up front. Looking at you Texas. Looking at you USC.
For sure. For the first time in maybe a decade, this was finally addressed in the 2022 recruiting class. But we really need to find a couple of serviceable portal transfers who can come in and make an immediate impact on the oline as well, or we'll still be in the same boat for 2022 that we were for 2021.
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Don't forget QB's. Bama/OSU have also been on an insane run of QB's these past 5 years.
#1 thing you need however is and always will be the trench ponies. Start there. The 5* CB's and WR's don't mean jack if you are tissue paper soft up front. Looking at you Texas. Looking at you USC.
UW has had those since time began.
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Texas A&M has signed 9 top 100 kids. They have 3 more top 100 kids committed to them that have yet to sign.
That's 12 top 100 kids. With four of them 5*'s. In a total class of 20. They are still favored or in the top 3 for 5 other 5* kids and are in on a bunch more top 100 kids.
This is nuts to me. Texas A&M has zero history of ever winning anything. Texas is the dominant blue-blood program in the state. A&M is kinda middle of nowhere far from all the major cities in Texas. Texas is smack dab in Austin. Jimbo Fisher's last year FSU was a 5-7 disaster, and he's been perpetually 8-4 at A&M ever since he's been there. He's been at A&M for 4 years. It's not exactly like he's got a "new vision" or hype or that new coach bump going that new hot name coaches get in their first year or two on the trail. After that it's put up or shut up time if coaches want to keep recruiting at an elite level. He's largely shut up, as he hasn't put up jack squat.
If the dominoes fall for them they have a legit shot at finishing #1 and having one of the highest rated classes ever. Makes absolutely no sense to me, but whatever.
There is so much bullshit in this statement it makes me laugh. 2020 doesn’t count I guess? Yeah, 2021 wasn’t great but 10 wins was within reach, and we took down Big Bad Alabama.
What do you really know about A&M? You do understand we’re the other flagship school in the state right? We’re not some copy of Texas Tech, we’re fairly close to all of Texas’s large cities. There are almost 70,000 Aggie students right now, and there’s room for more.
We have definitely invested in our program. We’ve got the fan base, facilities, support, and it doesn’t hurt being in the SEC.
Weve made a helluva commitment to Jimbo Fisher as well. He could go 8-4 the next two years and he’s still going to be our coach.
If you look at it objectively you’ll see that A&M has a lot more in common with Florida, Clemson, and LSU. All teams that have probably passed up the traditional programs like Michigan, Notre Dame, and maybe even Texas and OU.
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There is so much bullshit in this statement it makes me laugh. 2020 doesn’t count I guess? Yeah, 2021 wasn’t great but 10 wins was within reach, and we took down Big Bad Alabama.
What do you really know about A&M? You do understand we’re the other flagship school in the state right? We’re not some copy of Texas Tech, we’re fairly close to all of Texas’s large cities. There are almost 70,000 Aggie students right now, and there’s room for more.
We have definitely invested in our program. We’ve got the fan base, facilities, support, and it doesn’t hurt being in the SEC.
Weve made a helluva commitment to Jimbo Fisher as well. He could go 8-4 the next two years and he’s still going to be our coach.
If you look at it objectively you’ll see that A&M has a lot more in common with Florida, Clemson, and LSU. All teams that have probably passed up the traditional programs like Michigan, Notre Dame, and maybe even Texas and OU.
You ags are so cute when you get your dander up.
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It's even worse for them, this is their last gasp at squeaking out good seasons before Texas and OU join the SEC and make life far more difficult for them. Both schools absolutely own the ags, and once all of the recruiting imbalances are evened out, the ags will be in a world of hurt. Couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch. :)
I know full well that OU and UT will have success in the SEC, someday, but for once in OU’s history they’re going to NOT be the top dog in the conference and they’ll almost certainly not win conference championships at the rate they have been. And good luck entering with a new coach.
OU and Texas will just be one of many on murders row, and if Alabama and Auburn go East as has been suggested I’ll gladly trade that for OU and Texas. I’m just disappointed that OU and Texas will not have to play them every year as we have. Remember, Auburn has played for more national championships in the last 10 or so years than either of the OU/UT have.
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You ags are so cute when you get your dander up.
Can’t wait for SEC play to start! See you next year.
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I know full well that OU and UT will have success in the SEC, someday, but for once in OU’s history they’re going to NOT be the top dog in the conference and they’ll almost certainly not win conference championships at the rate they have been. And good luck entering with a new coach.
OU and Texas will just be one of many on murders row, and if Alabama and Auburn go East as has been suggested I’ll gladly trade that for OU and Texas. I’m just disappointed that OU and Texas will not have to play them every year as we have. Remember, Auburn has played for more national championships in the last 10 or so years than either of the OU/UT have.
Yes, Auburn's very strong cheating bag game purchased them a roster to win one national championship.
And now where are they?
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Can’t wait for SEC play to start! See you next year.
Looking forward to it. One thing I know for sure is, it doesn't matter how bad Texas is, the ags will always find a way to aggy it up and lose. 27-25 and all.
Hook 'em. :)
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UW has had those since time began.
Yup. And some pretty good coaches too. That’s why for the last 30 years, UW has been an excellent program.
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Kiyaunta Goodwin finally picked Kentucky over MSU last night...and still hasn't signed his LOI
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Yup. And some pretty good coaches too. That’s why for the last 30 years, UW has been an excellent program.
Not excellent, but good/very good.
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Yes, Auburn's very strong cheating bag game purchased them a roster to win one national championship.
Auburn is the reason LSU does not recognize its own (legitimate) 1908 NC (though the NCAA does). Due to some massively shady business by an Auburn newspaper reporter and the college pulling his strings.
This shows Auburn has been Auburn from the beginning of time.
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Auburn is the reason LSU does not recognize its own (legitimate) 1908 NC (though the NCAA does). Due to some massively shady business by an Auburn newspaper reporter and the college pulling his strings.
This shows Auburn has been Auburn from the beginning of time.
technically they were the east alabama male college (1856-72), then the agricultural and mechanical college of alabama (1872-99), then the alabama polytechnic institute (1899-1960), and then auburn. but they were always auburn at heart, i guess. that's what makes them auburn men and women, and they love it. or something like that.
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What do you really know about A&M? You do understand we’re the other flagship school in the state right? We’re not some copy of Texas Tech, we’re fairly close to all of Texas’s large cities. There are almost 70,000 Aggie students right now, and there’s room for more.
We have definitely invested in our program. We’ve got the fan base, facilities, support, and it doesn’t hurt being in the SEC.
If you look at it objectively you’ll see that A&M has a lot more in common with Florida, Clemson, and LSU. All teams that have probably passed up the traditional programs like Michigan, Notre Dame, and maybe even Texas and OU.
A&M is Michigan State with a lot more money. You have a lot more in common with them or Auburn than Florida or LSU. Clemson was a flash in the pan that was built on the back of paying players under the table and having an elite DC in Venables which pushed them over the hump. NIL is making paying players under the table less lucrative in landing top players and Venables is gone. Clemson is almost dead and likely never coming back.
And none of those teams have passed up Michigan, ND, Texas, or OU, and they never will. You’re either a blue blood helmet or you’re not. That isn’t changing. A&M could win the next 10 CFP’s in a row and it wouldn’t change.
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Guess I can't say jack about Cade now if he's got the seal of approval from the GOAT.
https://twitter.com/DarrenHeitner/status/1471468520324182028?s=20
Sure you can because he wasn't the GOAT in CFB :111:
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A&M is Michigan State with a lot more money.
Well no because the Aggies haven't spanked the Ann Arbor Community College 10 of the last 14 😜
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Well no because the Aggies haven't spanked the Ann Arbor Community College 10 of the last 14 😜
thef aggies have ducked their in-state blue blood rival for the last 10 years by jumping ship to the SEC.
And I didn’t know MSU-MICH series has only been played for 14 years. Thanks for letting me know that Nubbz. Thought you were older than 14 btw.
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thef aggies have ducked their in-state blue blood rival for the last 10 years by jumping ship to the SEC.
And I didn’t know MSU-MICH series has only been played for 14 years. Thanks for letting me know that Nubbz. Thought you were older than 14 btw.
Ya I am but you count alot of games before you were born,MSU has nothing to hang it's head about.If your going to bust their chops at least have score board - kinda helps with the narrative.And quit getting all butt hurt it's smack - getting in shape for the off season.Here :111:
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Kiyaunta Goodwin finally picked Kentucky over MSU last night...and still hasn't signed his LOI
LOI in. Drama finally over
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Getting all kinds of salty in here. Fun times!
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Looking forward to it. One thing I know for sure is, it doesn't matter how bad Texas is, the ags will always find a way to aggy it up and lose. 27-25 and all.
Hook 'em. :)
Kansas. Twice.
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A&M is Michigan State with a lot more money. You have a lot more in common with them or Auburn than Florida or LSU. Clemson was a flash in the pan that was built on the back of paying players under the table and having an elite DC in Venables which pushed them over the hump. NIL is making paying players under the table less lucrative in landing top players and Venables is gone. Clemson is almost dead and likely never coming back.
And none of those teams have passed up Michigan, ND, Texas, or OU, and they never will. You’re either a blue blood helmet or you’re not. That isn’t changing. A&M could win the next 10 CFP’s in a row and it wouldn’t change.
The only agreed definition of a blue blood is top ten in winning. And the only people who really care are the fans of blue bloods and sportscasters who grew up in the 50s/60s.
I’ll take the next ten CFP championships , you keep your blue blood status.
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Kansas. Twice.
Good thing for us, y'all ain't Kansas.
27-25.
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The only agreed definition of a blue blood is top ten in winning. And the only people who really care are the fans of blue bloods and sportscasters who grew up in the 50s/60s.
I’ll take the next ten CFP championships , you keep your blue blood status.
italic: disagree. it's more then that. Penn State and Tennessee are top 10 in FBS all-time wins, both have more wins than USC. I don't know anyone who considers Penn State and Tennessee blue-bloods, but USC most definitely is considered one.
bolded: tell that to the tv ratings. Blue-bloods typically have giant national fan bases. Michigan, Ohio State, ND, Bama = huge tv ratings. huge fan bases. lotta media coverage. even when they stink. And that certainly ain't 'cause of sports casters or people who grew up in the 50s and 60s.
underlined: well, have to finish better than 8-4 first there partner. and 3 of the programs you claim A&M to have passed- M, ND, OU have all made the playoff while A&M has yet to make it. OU thrice, ND twice, and Michigan for the first time this year.
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Let me be clear. I never claimed A&M passed up those programs. I said Florida, LSU, and Clemson have passed them.
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Let me be clear. I never claimed A&M passed up those programs. I said Florida, LSU, and Clemson have passed them.
Even those haven't passed them.
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time began with King Barry
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Good thing for us, y'all ain't Kansas.
27-25.
Good thing for us too we ain't Kansas. See you soon!
:)
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so does A&M's #1 class get them to 9-3 instead of 8-4? asking for a friend.
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time began with King Barry
He was on the field at Camp Randall long before he took the UW coaching job.
He won then too.
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5* CB Domani Jackson re-commits to USC. Kid was all set to go to Bama til 'SC hired Lincoln Riley and retained Donte Williams.
west coasters Top100 4* S Zion Branch and his 2023 5* WR brother Zachariah Branch were all set to go to Ohio State together until USC hired Lincoln Riley. Zion signed with USC and Zachariah committed to USC.
He's making the west coast much harder to recruit so far. But he's gonna have to put up or shut up. I think he's largely going to put up but get blown out in the playoff if he makes it just like he did at OU because: his teams plays no defense.
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He was on the field at Camp Randall long before he took the UW coaching job.
He won then too.
the good ol daze
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Good thing for us too we ain't Kansas. See you soon!
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Looking forward to it. Aggie tears are delicious.
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So weirdly enough Max Johnson, the LSU QB who threw the game winning pass with 20 seconds left, is transferring to A&M. So we have Haynes King, Max Johnson, and Connor Weigman all competing to be our 2022 starter.
Apparently we recruited his brother in this class as well.
https://mobile.twitter.com/CulottaShow/status/1471880579528466444?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1471880579528466444%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.saturdaydownsouth.com%2Ftamu-football%2Fmax-johnson-connor-weigman-haynes-king-3-way-qb-battle-im-here-for%2F
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Four star DE Omari Abor commits to the Bucks out of Texas
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Dammit Sam,get a life
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A&M picked up another huge recruit for this years class. Jimbo had quite a haul this year.
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A&M picked up another huge recruit for this years class. Jimbo had quite a haul this year.
Best class ever
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Dammit Sam,get a life
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Under Armour All-Star game was this past weekend, and all the recruit "gurus" over at 247/Rivals were raving about a few Michigan signees during the week of practice and in the game.
Michigan DE signee Derrick Moore (6'4, 250) won the Game MVP with two sacks, S signee Keon Sabb (6'2, 200) was being talked up in the week of practice and sounds like he'll be getting a bump in the rankings, CB signee Will Johnson (6'3, 190) was being hailed as possibly the new #1 ranked CB in the country- Rivals suggested he's going to be moving way up their rankings.
These guys are all already pretty highly rated, Moore is #79 overall in the 247Composite, Sabb is #94, and Johnson is #20. But rankings are just guesses. Nice to see these guys perform at high level during practice and in game vs other top ranked players. That's what you want to see.
I think Johnson is going to walk in and start day one at CB. They don't have anyone on that roster with his ability at CB.
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Four star OL Carson Hinzman commits to the Bucks out of Wisconsin
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Four star OL Carson Hinzman commits to the Bucks out of Wisconsin
Wow. Thought he was a Badger for sure.
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Joe Rudolph left yesterday. That changed everything, quickly.
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One of these days Bucky will land a decent lineman
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One of these days Bucky will land a decent lineman
they have a couple 5*'s on the bench.
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Nor for long.
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4* WR Germie Bernard has been released from his NLI with Washington, and MSU is the presumed destination.
He nearly decommitted from Washington when Jimmy Lake was fired, but agreed to sign once Washington retained his position coach. After Signing Day, his position coach left for Oregon, and Bernard wanted out.
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Classic example of why a kid should have options
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More of an example of how kids should commit to schools, rather than coaches.
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Four star DT Hero Kanu commits to the Bucks out of Germany
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Four star DT Hero Kanu commits to the Bucks out of Germany
Out of California
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Out of California
Two years of school in Cali to showcase for colleges, but he's a German. Achtung!
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Two years of school in Cali to showcase for colleges, but he's a German. Achtung!
German via California is better than German via Argentina
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German via California is better than German via Argentina
True. Though his uncle is currently in prison for leading an insurrection in Nigeria. That's the kind of toughness you just can't teach.
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True. Though his uncle is currently in prison for leading an insurrection in Nigeria. That's the kind of toughness you just can't teach.
😂😂
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this will never not be cringe....why does Brian Kelly insist on dancing with recruits? And I thought Harbaugh was weird...
https://twitter.com/DannyLewis2022/status/1487209885385347081?s=20&t=2araE7GxTZmI3dSL5orQBA
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https://twitter.com/DispatchAlerts/status/1487861185798148097?s=20&t=8n5OstOJ0-QYKtgmr-zlfA
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(https://i.imgur.com/KSYs61W.jpg)
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UNC and UK make the list along with Stanford. Mizzou at 14 is interesting, Clemson has faded a bit.
The usual suspects up top, A&M is a bit new to this lofty standing.
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Arizona?
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I wonder how much NIL has shaken up these rankings.
Smart was saying he couldn't promise any NIL, it wasn't his affair, outwardly.
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Did I heard the incoming Texas A&M recruits had $30 million in NIL income?
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Did I heard the incoming Texas A&M recruits had $30 million in NIL income?
https://mobile.twitter.com/espncfb/status/1488996750392279042?s=21
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Great recruiting haul for A&M. I guess we will soon see what Jimbo can do with them.
Honestly recruiting hasn’t ever really been a problem for us. We’ve never been out of the top 25 since the rankings have been around but we’ve finished out of the top 25 more than half the time or worse. We never recruited worse than Miss State, Arkansas, Texas Tech, Missouri, etc. Heck we even out recruited OU and Texas a few years.
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I bet if we check the recruiting rankings of the NCs in the playoff era, and perhaps before, they'd all be top five. Maybe Auburn was not that one year.
Necessary but not sufficient. You need the right mix of talent in the right year. This past season was unusual in that a highly recruited QB was not at the helm. I think IN GENERAL you need a five star at QB to win an NC, a six star helps.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/espncfb/status/1488996750392279042?s=21
Ok. I didn’t hear Jimbo say how much NIL income his incoming class had. More than $30 million?
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In the old days, players would get summer "jobs" at some local dealership where they showed up once and were told they didn't need to show up any more. Obviously this was illegal, under the rules, but unenforceable really. Some cat with big money who was a big fan would fund this easily enough and the players would get walking around money for doing nothing.
Now, same cat can pay NIL funds and get some benefit, so he can pay a bit more. Ten thousand is a lot of money to a college kid, usually. And it's legal.
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A&M getting the best class ever is bizarre. So yes, something unique happened to cause it. But the difference now is that whatever it was, it's likely not against the rules anymore.
But no, it's not ho-hum.
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btw, 15 of the 16 SEC teams (w/ OU, UTA) had Top 26 classes.
It's obscene.
If the cream of the P5 does ever break off and do their own thing, say 20 of them or so, over half of those will be SEC schools.
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A&M getting the best class ever is bizarre. So yes, something unique happened to cause it. But the difference now is that whatever it was, it's likely not against the rules anymore.
But no, it's not ho-hum.
I find your lack of faith disturbing.
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well, there has got to be more ways to cheat than simply paying players
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Player compensation has to be the most effective way to "cheat", and now we see legal avenues to doing this. NIL is a massive hole in the fabric of regulation, not that the regulations were all that effective, but there was a threat you'd get caught.
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At minimum, I think every NIL deal should be made public, team by team.
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At minimum, I think every NIL deal should be made public, team by team.
I think that's a great idea. every NIL deal involving an NCAA athlete should have to registered with some sort of agency.
I think NCAA needs to set up an NIL compliance agency if it hasn't already - and that every school should have an NIL compliance office on campus - and that every NIL deal has to be registered. Ones that aren't - players should lose eligibility and businesses that fail to register should be fined/prohibited from access to an NCAA-NIL system.
Just call it NCAA-NIL. Every business and student athlete who partakes in NIL registers, and every deal is recorded - and everything is above board.
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We could at least see if any one program was way over the top on this. And of course folks would still cheat and not fess up.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/espncfb/status/1488996750392279042?s=21
CHurchill was quoted something like "if Herr Hitler invaded hell I shall give favorable reference to the Devil" or sumsuch.Looking at Jumbo's picture that how most fans will feel. Getting cocky because his backers bought those pieces for him like a spoiled brat. At least Nick Satan,URBZ and Dabo got their enemies by conquest
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I think that's a great idea. every NIL deal involving an NCAA athlete should have to registered with some sort of agency.
I think NCAA needs to set up an NIL compliance agency if it hasn't already - and that every school should have an NIL compliance office on campus - and that every NIL deal has to be registered. Ones that aren't - players should lose eligibility and businesses that fail to register should be fined/prohibited from access to an NCAA-NIL system.
Just call it NCAA-NIL. Every business and student athlete who partakes in NIL registers, and every deal is recorded - and everything is above board.
the IRS is interested
it's tax season!
Is the money paid to a player 80% deductible like a donation to the athletic or academic department?
the student athlete is certainly required to report the income
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I think that's a great idea. every NIL deal involving an NCAA athlete should have to registered with some sort of agency.
I think NCAA needs to set up an NIL compliance agency if it hasn't already - and that every school should have an NIL compliance office on campus - and that every NIL deal has to be registered. Ones that aren't - players should lose eligibility and businesses that fail to register should be fined/prohibited from access to an NCAA-NIL system.
Just call it NCAA-NIL. Every business and student athlete who partakes in NIL registers, and every deal is recorded - and everything is above board.
It was a state driven initiative. Certain states, I think California kinda opened the flood gates, made it legal for players to get paid via NIL. The NCAA had to give in because their rules don't trump state laws. Once they allowed in in Cally it had to be allowed everywhere and other states soon followed suit.
Who really cares anymore? If people want to spend their money this way it should be between the player and the entity. Just like the coaches were out getting NIL deals (Bob Stoops comes to mind among others) why should it really involve the NCAA or University unless it's one of the no-no categories like gambling or some such?
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can we habe private entities pay the coaching staff directly as well?
As opposed to indirectly through donations
or would that not be tax deductible?
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If some company pays for something like NIL, it's a business expense, entirely deductable with few exceptions (usually involving capital equipment, and that just delays it).
NIL payments to athletes should get reported to the IRS and be taxable earned income. The same would be true for me if they use my NIL to sell a product (ha).
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If some company pays for something like NIL, it's a business expense, entirely deductable with few exceptions (usually involving capital equipment, and that just delays it).
NIL payments to athletes should get reported to the IRS and be taxable earned income. The same would be true for me if they use my NIL to sell a product (ha).
Bigger problem, they are probably 1099 contract employees, so no taxes taken out and player responsible for Fed, State, FICA, Medicare taxes with nothing withheld.
I imagine we are going to see a fair number of kids with tax problems because they didn't know how to handle it and spent it all. I am thinking the ones with like $50K NIL vs ones with $1M NIL. Figuring the ones with $1m will have some help or at least didn't spend every penny.
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the student athlete is certainly required to report the income
This is interesting,what'll be the penalty if one of these fine student-athlete's don't report? Should be treated the same IMO as not going to class,failing grades or any other violation of the rules.There definitely should be reprisals,no pay tax ,no play,no play,no meet or make performance stipulations
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This is interesting,what'll be the penalty if one of these fine student-athlete's don't report? Should be treated the same IMO as not going to class,failing grades or any other violation of the rules.There definitely should be reprisals,no pay tax ,no play,no play,no meet or make performance stipulations
Eh. It's not an NCAA matter if they pay their taxes. That's for the IRS to handle...
...and their penalties are far more of a threat than anything the NCAA could do.
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This is interesting,what'll be the penalty if one of these fine student-athlete's don't report? Should be treated the same IMO as not going to class,failing grades or any other violation of the rules.There definitely should be reprisals,no pay tax ,no play,no play,no meet or make performance stipulations
Why would the school penalize itself and lose the use of those players, by punishing them as if it were a team violation?
You seem to think the schools are somehow against this-- they're not. If it can get better players onto the roster, they're all for it. Even moreso if they can close their eyes, wipe their hands, and not pay any attention to the nuts and bolts of it.
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No kidding the school would like it until it shines a bad light on them or the process.That wouldn't fall under the guise of improper benefits?Cause you know it's gonna happen unless the feds take their cut right off the top